Monday 5 April 2010

No 9808, Monday 05 Apr 10, Nita Jaggi

I have totally given up on NJ today, lot of blanks
ACROSS
1   - Form of protest by activists in India (5) - BANDH [E]
4   - Robber gang takes over the truck (7) - B{RIG}AND
10 - One who does not talk will agree to return to an associate not of the king (6) - N?L?E?
11 - Is spell bound by first class attraction (8) - {CHAR{IS}M}{A}
13 - Character owned lab in the Swiss canton (8) - OBWALDEN*
14 - Last letter for one and all is put up at the hospital in the local district (6) - {Z}{I}{LLA<-}{H} )
16 - Regularly baron is around the city (4) - {B}{R}{N}{O}
17 - Speaker has energy to initially judge the court proceedings around Los Angeles (10) - {E}{J}{A}{CU{LA}TOR*}
20 - Tree branch in England is perhaps adrift outside Uruguay (10) - {BR}{E}{ADFR{U}IT*}

21 - Neat small cup (4) - {S}{MUG}
24 - Better than the former engineers in the outskirts of England (6) - {EX}{CE}{ED}
26 - First lady has the right to finally say about the foundation of the college to all (8) - {EVE}{R}{Y}{ONE}
28 - Zonal head has a pipeline laid out for one airship (8) - {Z}{EPPELIN(-i)*}
29 - Stop to take into custody (6) - DETAIN [DD]
30 - Pledged to make a bet around the table in front (2,5) - ON STAKE Anno ?(Addendum - A{T} STAKE - Thanks to Gita)
31 - Risks money in Poland in an unknown safe in front (5) - ?S?Y?
DOWN
2   - Expense put aside for a new church (9) - {ALLOW}{A}{N}{CE}
3   - Thinks about the dead English writer (6) - {D}{WELLS}
5   - Demon is at the tip-off the boat (4) - (-p)RAHU
6   - You leave the lifeguard to protect the comic character (8) - GARFIELD(-u)*
7   - Kind of sound produced in a salute (5) - NASAL [T]
8   - Shell is for the holy man in memory of the boy (6) - ENTOMB ?(Addendum - {ST}{ROM}{B} - Thanks to Raghuram)
9   - Collect the endless tickets up in front of the short celebrity (6) - {(-s)GAT<-}{HER(-o)} )
12 - Lie according to this body under oath (7) - {PER}{JURY}
15 - Get to have ice in the solution (7) - ACHIEVE*
18 - Short term movement of the soldiers on the way (9) - {TEMPO}{RA}{RY}
19 - Sticking fast to the Samaritan (8) - ADHERENT [DD]
20 - Quickly proceed in the wind (6) - BREEZE [DD]
22 - An alternative arrangement for a trial (6) - G?E?N? ORDEAL {OR}{DEAL}
23 - Vegetables finally in the bag are seen wrapped (6) - {G}{R}{EENS*}
25 - Note the following cover on the skull (5) - CAPON ?(Addendum - {CAP}{U}{T} - Thanks to Gita)
27 - Fur in the Chinese dynasty is for the king instead of the man (4) - MIN(-g+k)K

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49 comments:

  1. "ejaculate" means "to utter", "to exclaim".

    The noun form of "ejaculate" is "ejaculator".

    No problem at all!

    Only, I want some language expert here to use the word 'ejaculator' in the sense 'speaker' (the clue-writer's def.) in a meaningful sentence.

    Richard, are you ready to take up the challenge?

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  2. Good Morning: The very ones are pending. Also, got initially mislead on 29a as Arrest. Interestingly, Prahu appears as a work on Friday. Also, I had mentioned Bren yesterday, and Brno turns up today, Enfield having come yesterday, Bren being a combination of Br-En. Best enjoyed Garfield.

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  3. 8 - Shell is for the holy man in memory of the boy (6) - ENTOMB ? STROMB
    10 - One who does not talk will agree to return to an associate not of the king (6) - N?L?E? TELLER

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  4. Col.,

    Is 8D STROMB - meaning shell?

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  5. 31 - Risks money in Poland in an unknown safe in front (5) - ?S?Y? ESPYS

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  6. Also, 30A would be AT STAKE< allowing for CAPUT in the cross?

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  7. How about 'He was an ejaculator even while giving extempore speeches'

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  8. stromb is a mollusc hence i think means shell

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  9. 30A would make it AT STAKE then

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  10. Thanks everyone for all the answers but I just gave up today after sometime

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  11. Good morning all

    I feel 30A is AT STAKE, a widely-used phrase.

    That makes 25D CAPUT = head or skull

    @ Chaturvasi, will get back on that later as I am occupied otherwise.

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  12. Oh, Gita has beaten me on those clues.

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  13. Gita & Richard,
    CAPUT fits alright, but is U a note?

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  14. ...use the word 'ejaculator' in the sense 'speaker' (the clue-writer's def.) in a meaningful sentence.

    We do not say 'Ganges is a flower' or 'Nile is a banker', but we accept these definitions for 'river' in cryptic clues. NJ was probably going for that effect.

    My objection is that 'ejaculate' does not equal 'speak'. 'ejaculate' means to utter suddenly, while 'speak' is to utter in a normal voice.

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  15. ?CAPUT fits alright, but is U a note?

    In NJ-speak, it is!

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  16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ut_queant_laxis
    This is the link for UT as a note

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  17. 26A Did not get the anno for ONE. How does it become a foundation for a college

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  18. Thanks, Shuchi.

    I think that the point has been made that the noun form of that word is not exactly equivalent to 'speaker' and also that to 'ejaculate' is not just 'speak' or 'utter' but 'speak' or 'utter' suddenly or in an excited manner.

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  19. @Shuchi,
    If 'ejaculator' means utter suddenly and if 'utter' means speak, then 'speak suddenly, becaomes 'utter suddenly' which in turn becomes 'ejaculator'! How is my logic?

    That reminds me of what someone said about logic 'All crows are black so everything black is a crow'

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  20. 31A and 22D still going abegging.
    Can anyone give me the annotation for 10A TELLER

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  21. @ Col: It is utterly (!) sudden ejaculation when in Yes Minister, on being asked who is responsible, one character says : " The person who you are referring to is the person your present interlocutor refers to in the vertical pronoun". On further enquiry, he elaborates (if that word can be used in this context): ' I ".
    Your comment below the heading says it all.

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  22. options for 22d- greens, gleans, geeing, gaeing- nothing makes sense to me. Help!

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  23. @ Suresh: Reg 26a, about=ON foundation (base) of college=E

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  24. The number of people wanting help on today's clues is larger than those seeking help during Hurricane Katrina and Earthquake in Haiti combined.

    Ooh, that was mean on my part.

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  25. Gretna Green was a popular place for runaway marriages (as was Reno in the US). Can marriage = trial?

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  26. Now we are thinking like NJ!! GRETNA looks like a good possibility

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  27. Kishore. Thnks, ON can be about. But I can't see how E can be College or Foundation of the college. It is not even there in the infamous long list

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  28. I suppose by foundation of the college NJ means base of college which is 'e'

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  29. @ Suresh Base of college i.e. bottom of it , is an e

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  30. Ok Thanks Deepak and Kishore. We get to understand NJ more, by and by.

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  31. Suresh: I agree. I have always believed that solving crosswords is not just dexterity in noticing things and anagramming, having some knowledge (supercharged with the power of the net, if required) and more importantly, getting into the mindset of the setter. The more and more we think like them, the easier it gets to solve. We also understand that the elasticity of poetic licence can be stretched to oblivion.

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  32. I did 22D as follows (since it was the first clue i solved, the entire crossword got messed up)and i gave up after sometime.

    Def = A Trial
    An Alternative = or
    Arrangement = deal
    Answer = ordeal.

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  33. 22 - An alternative arrangement for a trial (6) - G?E?N?
    If 'alternative' can be angle(s?), then it would anagram to gleans. If we can find a remote meaning for trial meaning glean, then with the NJ accepted error of using singular instead of plural we will have the answer.

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  34. tpa ORDEAL seems right. Now let us re-look at the other clues.

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  35. Other clues look right. I give up

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  36. i din't want to tax my brain today and so gave it up happily.

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  37. My assumption on 22D is that it was a clue meant for some other crossword, got printed here by error.

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  38. I too started with the ORDEAL, sat through the ORDEAL on the lines of Bob the Bruce and used the logic that if everything else ties up this must be wrong, either my answer or the clue, as very well interpreted by Suresh.

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  39. there is definitely some problem with the construction of the crossword....the ESPYS was a mistake....didnt know how to erase that post.....tomorrow we shall know what the problem was

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  40. I too think that the 22 down of todays grid ought to be ORDEAL. Perhaps it is part of some other grid a misprint.we will have some comments from the Readers Editor. I am not able to figure out the 16 across. How is it 'B''R''N''O'-JAYASHREE

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  41. @Jayashree,

    16 - Regularly baron is around the city (4) - {B}{R}{N}{O}

    Regularly = Indicator for taking alternate letters
    Regularly baron = B R N
    is = connector
    around = O
    the city = Definition = {B}{R}{N}{O}

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  42. As seen from the solution and suspected by some people here, there was a problem -22D and 23D getting mixed up. Unfortunately GREENS worked in the incorrect position too.
    Can somebody explain the solution for 31 D - PLAYS

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  43. 31 D PL = Poland A=an Y=unknown S=(S)afe in front.....PLAYS means risks money

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  44. I dont think NJ is to blame for this mix up. Might be the newspaper composer. Similar mix up is there in the Time Pass puzzle of today's (Tuesday)Young World too. Answers of q 1 and 2 are mixed up.

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  45. A foreboding of this came in Sunday's 1a METAMORPHOSIS. ;-)

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  46. I solve old puzzles (today being Apri 6, 2018 !!) I notice an error in numbering 'Down' clues. 22D and 23D should be interchanged to complete the puzzle. [GREENS & ORDEAL]

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