ACROSS
1 - Expect open crevice to be fixed up (11) - PRECONCEIVE*
9 - Announced hair gel for the American mammal (5) - MOOSE (~mousse)
11 - Clean entertainment veils something concerning (5) - ANENT [T]
12 - Rowdy behaviour is on us! Saucers damaged (11) - RAUCOUSNESS*
13 - Ghostly pale alien leaves latchkey deformed (6) - CHALKY(
14 - Play with lid shaped like floating leaves (4,3) - LILY PAD*
20 - Party in back street of Paris with a Greek nymph (6) - EU{DO}RA<- )
24 - Distributes once more to find the old Spanish coins outside (11) - REAL{LOCATE}S
27 - Rodeo unit disaster is cleared up (6,3) - IRONED OUT*
28 - Planes? They are not odd (5) - EVENS [DD]
29 - Bill (owner) following booming sound finds a mythical creature (11) - {THUNDER}BIRD
DOWN
1 - Charge Greek character in retreat in Pakistan for a smoker's stand (4,4) - P{IP<-}{E RAC<-}K )
3 - View forecast (7) - OUTLOOK [DD]
4 - Upset at missing the first clue type in this puzzle (5) - (
5 - Goddess sheltering old king sent back by some countrymen (8) - IS{RAEL<-}IS )
6 - Mission student missing assembly in trouble (7) - EMBASSY(
7 - Page in gloom, upset by queen (5) - {GOF<-}{ER} )
8 - Property of Bill that one may shell out a lot of money for (5) - ?E?T?(Addendum - HEFTY [CD])
15 - Unusual ratio for one with a stronger reason (1,8) - {A FORTIOR}{I} Never heard this earlier
16 - Dessert Sumitra cooked contains iodine (8) - TIRAM{I}SU*
17 - Broken bedsteads Democrat dropped revealed in the open (8) - BASSETED(
19 - Sits uncomfortably after salesman turns up for the stay (7) - {PER<-}{SIST*} )
21 - Dim and corrupt national leader replaced by Republican (7) - UNCLEA(-n+r)R
22 - Nut in Arizona surrounded by endless misery (5) - H{AZ}EL(
23 - Reportedly understood direction to remain silent (5) - ????T(Addendum - (~tacit)TACET )
25 - Alloy (duralumin) smuggled for the old U.S. comedian (5) - LLOYD [T]
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ReplyDeleteDon’t you think it is time one leaves their HAZEL coloured, CHALKY LILYPADS with PIPE RACKS, gets rid of PRECONCEIVE(d) notions about the ISRAELI(s) EMBASSY, clears UNCLEAR A FORTIORI arguments, REALLOCATES time, PERSIST(S), EVENS and IRON(S)(-S+ED) OUT problems, gives up DESPAIR, RAUCOUSNESS and being CROSS, changes OUTLOOK, , and mounts their MOOSE, THUNDERBIRD, (or even their thunder-box) and goes to Pabba’s with their ENTOURAGE to have a TIRAMISU with EUDORA and LLOYD.
By the way, PERSIST persistently persists, coming in 27a yesterday and 19d today. Also, Bill comes in two clues with two different meanings: 29a and 8d.
Regret to note the Col Wakefield has called it a day.
@ Richard: Couldn’t resist including Pabbas since Tiramisu is available there.
Today's theme appears to be Email applications
ReplyDeleteHaving problem with 8d, 23d and anno for 23a Amiss.
ReplyDelete29a Bill owner=bird
2d Encourage - C(harles)+ T(esla)
29 - Bill (owner) following booming sound finds a mythical creature (11) - {THUNDER}BIRD Anno for BIRD pending
ReplyDeleteBill = beak
bill owner = bird
23a Did Dennis Amiss get dismissed by a bank ???
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ReplyDelete26 - Not quite right when one gets dismissed by a bank (5) - AMISS ?
ReplyDeleteColonel, the answer for the above is AMASS
Not quite right : AMISS
when : Connector
one : I
gets dismissed by : Substitution indicator
a : A
bank : Required definition: AMASS
29 - Bill (owner) following booming sound finds a mythical creature (11) - {THUNDER}BIRD Anno for BIRD pending
Bill owner (as in, the owner of a beak) is a BIRD (Prefer not to use arcane references such as Charlier Parker for this!)
2 - Urge Tesla to get rid of Charlie's attendants (9) - ENTOURAGE Anno pending
Urge : ENCOURAGE
Tesla : T
to get rid of : Substitution indicator
Charlie : C
attendants : Required definition
8 - Property of Bill that one may shell out a lot of money for (5) - ?E?T?
This is a [CD] clue, the answer being 'HEFTY' ;
23 - Reportedly understood direction to remain silent (5) - ????T
The anno is:
Reportedly : Homophone indicator
understood : TACIT
direction to remain silent : Required definition : TACET
The upcoming WTC in CBE is an occasion for the TN Govt to rename roads. It wants to change the namses of some 50 roads after Tamil scholars!
ReplyDeleteI live on Conran Smith Road and for all I know this may be altered.
Heritage buffs oppose changes and one eminent person in a column wrote about how some of these persons did work for the city in the past. The govt is now consulting these about the importance of some of these persons; why they can't have the info themselves I can't understand.
Conran Smith was one of the earliest, if not the first Municipal Commissioner of Madras and a bust of his is in the Ripon Buildings housing the office of the Corporation!
Lloyds Road was changed to a Tamil name but few refer to it by the new name. Come to think of it, such changes become a kind of disrespect to our citizens!
@Neyartha. No offence meant.We love to gt clarifications. But let us enjoy completing the CW on our own before putting in the answers.
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ReplyDeleteInteresting that you mentioned Lloyds Road. While it is interesting to know that Conran Smith was one of the earliest Municipal Commissioners, I wonder who the Lloyds was after whom the road was earlier named. These names being of British origin, are prime targets for change, but as you mentioned the older names continue to be used for decades after the change - Mount Road is one prime example that I can think of in addition to the one you pointed out.
Hello everybody
ReplyDeleteA few eluded me. It was nice of the compiler to have popped in with answers and annos. But some of them were not too convincing.
BTW, Neyartha, sorry for this personal kind of query. In all probability it is your nom de plume. What does it signify? (I know ARTHA is meaning or substance.) I remember there was a discussion here some months ago over all THC compilers' names.
Kishore has referred to "Pabba's" here a few times. Just for info, it is the most-frequented ice-cream and snack parlour in Mangalore, an offshoot of the famous Ideal Ice-cream Parlour. 'Pabba' is the diminitive of 'Prabhakar', its founder's first name. When Kishore landed in Mangalore a fortnight ago, we had a lavish ice-cream-based lunch together !
May be the old names and new names of some of the important roads of Chennai (Name changes) can be the theme for a crossword with clues linking the new and old names!
ReplyDeleteNeyartha,
ReplyDelete"8 - Property of Bill that one may shell out a lot of money for (5) - ?E?T?
This is a [CD] clue, the answer being 'HEFTY'"
Still don't get it.
"8 - Property of Bill that one may shell out a lot of money for (5) - ?E?T?
ReplyDeleteDoes Bill refer to Bill Gates ?
@ Kishore, yes, Colonel John Wakefield (95), known as 'Papa' in eco-tourism circles, is no more. He died in Mysore on Monday, April 26.
ReplyDeleteGaya-born son of a manager from the court of the Maharajah of Tikarey in Bihar, he had settled in Karnataka - in Kabini Jungle Lodge in the Mysore forest division - representing Tiger Tops Jungle Lodge, a Nepal-based wildlife resort. He was largely responsible in the setting up of the Nagarahole jungle resort located between Kodagu (Coorg) and Mysore districts.
@ Chaturvasi, I fully agree with you on the futility of changing of names, partly motivated by misplaced patriotism. They went on a feverish re-naming spree in Bombay, er, Mumbai a few decades ago. Yet, even today, people know and refer to the circles and roads by their old names, like Flora Fountain, Carlisle Road, Carter Road, Colaba Causeway and so on.
Here too in our city, some roads have been named after some great personalities. But people call them K S Rao Road, P M Rao Road, K R Rao Road etc. The present generation does not even know who those great souls were.
(Incidentally, the last-mentioned was the great social reformer Kudmal Ranga Rao, who was born in a Chitrapur Saraswat Brahmin family, but had dedicated his life to the upliftment of the Dalits and the oppressed classes. His daughter Radhabai later married Paramasiva Subbarayan, a renowned freedom-fighter and political leader from Tamil Nadu. The illustrious Kumaramangalams descended from that family.)
A Fortiori is a phrase used in logic and is similar in usage to other phrases like a priori, a posteriori etc.
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ReplyDeleteRe: Conran Smith, you have mentioned that he was the first Municipal Commissioner of Madras. He must have worked in that capacity in the middle of 19th Century (after 1856 when the Act XXVI introduced a radical change abolishing the Bench of Justices and substituted Commissioners nominated by Government to form a body corporate under the designation of "The Municipal Commissioners for the Town of Madras" to look after its conservancy and improvements.
I have visited Gopalapuram and that time I was told that the particular street was named after Eric Conran Smith who was Home Secretary just prior to Independence. He was from the ICS and had held several important posts earlier also. He was Secretary to the Government in the Transport War Department at the time of WW-II. He was also made an Additional Knight Grand Commander of the Most Eminent Order of the Indian Empire in 1946 in recognition of his services to HM the King.
As an interested student in the history of Madras, I will be grateful for your clarification.
The following website mentions a Sir Conran Smith.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Vijayaraghavachariar
As for the person after whom the road on which I live is named, I have written as above from memory. Needs checking for any confirmation.
I will ask S. Muthiah when I meet him next.
BTW, I remember having read a Saki story with a character named Conran-Smith, with the hyphen!
ReplyDelete@ Richard: Abbreviation of roads also leads to lack of clarity MG Road (miligram?) is Mahatma Gandhi Road, but KG Road (kilogram?) is not Kasturba Gandhi Road in Bangalore, but Kempegowda Road.
ReplyDeleteAlso, forgotten people, Krumbigal Road, near Lalbagh, Bangalore is named after a botanist Gustav Herman Krumbigal and has nothing to do with either Donegal or the Karnataka towns of Hangal, Kunigal, Kengal et al
@ CV: Saki reminds me The Open Window. Wonderful short story.
ReplyDeleteDan & Suresh,
ReplyDeleteBill here refers to the Bill you get at commercial establishments.
What Neyartha intends is that one has to shell out a lot of money to pay a 'hefty' bill, especially when one goes Saree shopping with the wife!!!
Hefty here being the property of that Bill
@Neyartha,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the clarifications, I don't think I would ever have cottoned onto hefty.
The Open Window is an all-time favourite of mine.
ReplyDeleteMy dad read this story to me and my siblings in IAF quarters in Begumpet, Sec'bad, when I was some 12 or 13 years of age. The story was in a school textbook of my elder sister.
This was one of the stories in a book of short stories prescribed for study when I did B.A. We had to write an essay under exam conditions in Bertram Hall in Loyola College and I am glad to say that my effort got first-class score and a 'Very good' remark.
16D - Dessert Sumitra cooked contains iodine (8) - TIRAM{I}SU*
ReplyDeleteI can't believe she could erroneously have added an extra dose of TATA salt instead of sugar.
Are you there, young lady? No offence, please. ;-)
@ Deepak, I agree. If one doesn't carry a hefty wallet when the wife goes sari-shopping, he would cut a 'sari' figure.
ReplyDeleteNo offence taken, if it's me you are referring to!
ReplyDeleteEnjoyed the joke and was tickled to find my name in a clue!@Neyartha, Pardon my curiosity, but I can't help feeling that you are a 'she', despite everyone else referring to you as a 'he'. Of course, its your choice to agree or deny. Thanks for your annos, learnt many new things today.
A Fortiori is also the name by which the lead character in Catch 22 signs his name sometime when he does duty as military censor.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Conran Smith Rd the one that connects Chola Hotel with Lloyds Rd aka Avvai Shanmugam Salai? If it is, I feel they won't rename it for sometime as K'nidhi lives somewhere close by. They wouldn't want to confuse him or his driver.
LNS
ReplyDeleteYou've given a refreshingly new angle to the issue!
I hope they don't change the road name!
I love Tamil but my view is that we will honour Tamil scholars in a better way if streets in a new single colony or multiple colonies are named after them so that people do use them and they remain etched in memory as these old street names that we are talking about.
Also the conference is being held in CBE; why not change street names there instead of here in Madras? They may say there are no 'colonial relics' in that city.
PS: Are there 50 streets in Madras nalla Madras still bearing colonial past to be erased?
ReplyDeleteLong time no new photos on the THCC families
ReplyDelete@ CV: WTC in the Commander of the British Empire :-) Abbreviations will be the END of us. Eternal Nuisance Deliverer.
ReplyDelete@ Suresh: I aint grown a new family yet ! Pardon my asking, but anyone hosting/posting pics of ChinnaveeDu? Seems to be rampant if you watch Tamil serials....
ReplyDeleteContd: Mebbe the other people's photos are still in camera !
ReplyDeleteSpeaking about the street and place names in Chennai - erstwhile Madras - city, I simply love those heritage names, although I do not know the meaning of a single word.
ReplyDeleteI like the rhyming names -
Villivakkam, Arumbakkam, Purasawalkam, Kodambakkam
Kilpauk, Chepauk
Egmore, Mylapore, Perambur
Saidapet, Chintaripet, Teynampet, Washermanpet, Tondiarpet
Non-rhyming Vadapalani, Triplicane, Adyar, Aminjikarai
Chetput reminds of the Hindi word 'Jhut-put'!
Then we have a host of Nagars, named after Gandhi, Indira, Shastri, Kalaignar Karunanidhi.
Further on Chennai:
ReplyDeleteIf I am allowed a bit of latitude, here is some interesting tidbit which might interest many Chennaiites.
One of the city extensions near Anna Nagar is Shenoy Nagar. It has been named after Joseph Patrick Lasrado Shenoy (JPL Shenoy, in short) of the Indian Civil Service (ICS), which he joined in 1929, at the age of 21. He hailed from a Catholic family of Mangalore. I am proud to share his family name. (Shenoy is the secondary family name adopted by a few families.) I could be a distant relative.
Most of the years of JPL Shenoy's service were spent in the then-Madras Presidency. He was Commissioner of Madurai Municipality (1937), Sub-Collector and Additional District Magistrate of Tanjore (1039), now Thanjavur, Collector of Nellore (1943), and finally Commissioner of Madras Corporation (1944). In recognition of his contribution to the development of the Madras city, the aforesaid township was named after him as Shenoy Nagar.
Post-retirement, he lived in Bangalore, until his death in 1999.
Whenever I visit Chennai, I stay in Anna Nagar, a small distance away from Shenoy Nagar.
Erratum: The year mentioned after Tanjore should read 1939.
ReplyDelete@ Suresh:
ReplyDeleteSure, I understand your concern. However, I believe the only answer I revealed was HEFTY, and since it is a CD clue, there is no wordplay for people to get it through the second way.
@ Richard:
I am sorry to hear that you didn't find some annotations too convincing. There is a certain cryptic leeway assumed by all compilers, and it is not possible to please everyone all the time. For example, some solvers would like the 'Nice little' cryptic segment to denote 'PETIT', while others would find that a little too much.
If you can let me know which ones you didn't find convincing, I can try to avoid taking cryptic liberties of that sort in future puzzles.
@ Sumitra,
Sorry to disappoint you :) Probably, your inference is from looking at the few clues which my wife helped me set ;)
@Neyartha, not disappointed,now that we know that your wife contributes!!
ReplyDeleteHello, I am a new blogger on this site. My name is Deb Gill. Just wanted to say that I am Sir Eric Conran-Smith's grand-daughter, and my brother and sister and I are coming to Madras with our families at the end of December in part to see his statue in the Ripon Buildings. Perhaps we had better see Conran-Smith Road too, before it is renamed!
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