Tuesday 29 June 2010

No 9881, Tuesday 29 Jun 10, M Manna

ACROSS
1   - Passing is an error in the river (9) -{TR{ANSI*}ENT}
6   - Itinerant master gets stuck into the gin (5) - {TRA{M}P}


9   - Aimed to change a middle course (5) - MEDIA*
10 - The woman stitches suits (9) - TAILORESS [E]
11 - Work time is not arranged for theatre activities (10) - {OP}{ERA}{TIONS*}
12 - University hospital leaders admit soldiers in this state (4) - {U}{TA}{H}
14 - Pat sees change of Spanish currency (7) - PESETAS*
15 - Variety of odd jewels to make a fair attraction (7) - {DOD*}{GEMS}
17 - To see in an extraordinarily clear and vivid manner maybe a deceit (7) - {E{I}DETIC*} Such a long definition for 'Photographic memory'
19 - This might mean one has made a bloomer (7) - ANEMONE*
20 - An opinion opposed to another (4) - SIDE [CD]
22 - The dogs ran wild, being willful (10) - HEADSTRONG*
25 - With which the gun-room's furnished (9) - ARMCHAIRS [CD]
26 - It is renowned for its horn formation — one centrally placed (5) - {RH{I}NO} &lit
27 - Having a frame for closing an entrance (5) - GATED [CD]
28 - Young ladies, possibly from Mexico! (9) - SENORITAS [E]
DOWN
1   - Speed and rhythm of music (5) - TEMPO [E]
2   - Spoke to about the clothes being dead wrong (9) - {AD{DRESS}ED*}
3   - A stony hanger on (10) - STALACTITE [CD]

4   - Carves out sailent constituents (7) - ENTAILS*
5   - Made less crowded (7) -THINNED [CD]
6   - Continual activity in moving about (4) - TROT [CD]
7   - Watchful for danger warning (5) - ALERT [DD]
8   - Speedily arranged the spot as required (9) - POSTHASTE*
13 - Commercial enterprise right for a speculator (10) - {AD}{VENTURE}{R}
14 - Body of hacks to force into service (5,4) - PRESS GANG [DD]


16 - A thirfty chap who studies finance (9) - ECONOMIST [DD]
18 - Cried on way for recognition of achievements (7) - {CREDI*}{TS} Where are the anagram & reversal indicators?
19 - Don said to have become English poet and dramatist of 17th Century (7) - ADDISON*
21 - Timed return to resign (5) - DEMIT<-
23 - Logs in for a visit to prisons (5) - {G{A}OLS*}
25 - Fish for little bits of paper punched out of cards (4) - CHAD [DD] Couldn't find any fish named Chad found a Shad as shown below.


28 comments:

  1. Too many CD / E clues for your taste. Put in your vote at the poll on Crossword Unclued link given below

    LINK TO POLL

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  2. I wish Manna had a peek into Suchi's poll before setting today's puzzle, but I suspect the creation of the latter predates the former.

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  3. Any one else notice how verbatim 1A and 16A from ET today are? Just a mere coincidence ?

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  4. Bhavan,

    I made this comment earlier also, it does appear wierd at times as to how similar clues appear on the same day across different CW's.

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  5. Good morning

    Easy one, except about two or three clues. As for the rest, same grouses like the aforesaid.

    16A - RHINO - liked this clue.

    Two blatant typos - in 4D (salient) and 16D (thrifty).

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  6. @Richard : not to mention it should have been 24D and not 25D

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  7. 16A: If it's a &Lit, doesn't "one centrally placed" become redundant.

    Could RHNO be the anagram of horn, with formation being the anagram indicator?

    If so, then "It is renowned" becomes the definition clue.

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  8. There's another typo, which is hidden. In his head, Manna seems to have spelled CHAD as SHAD.

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  9. (from yesterday)
    Deepak
    FLIMSY: Since I have also entered two clues, may we invite an impartial person, a non-contestant such as the redoubtable Shuchi, to pick the best three - not necessarily in any order and without any elaborate report so as to save time for these busy individuals.

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  10. Shuchi,

    If you do pop in here to have a look at today's comments, let us have your pick of the best three 'flimsy' clues entered under yesterdays post

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  11. Instead of making it into a contest, I think it'd be nice if Chaturvasi could give a couple of tips to the ones who've tried (if it's not too much trouble). It could be a learning experience.

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  12. It was not intended as a contest.
    I merely accepted the challenge of writing a cryptic clue for FLIMSY and invited my friends here to joinme. Thanks everybody. At the request of VJ, I am now writing a critique of the clues entered. Shuchi, if she has time and the inclination, can still select the top three - in no particular order or in the alphabetical order of the first word!

    My write-up will be posted when it's finished.

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  13. Hot topics here:

    First it was SEMITRANSPARENT. Now FLIMSY. What next?

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  14. For some reason I am unable to put up my write-up here. This text box does not accept it.
    I have put it up here:
    http://dailydozen.blogspot.com/2010/06/flimsy.html
    Read it there but please add comments if any here.

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  15. Chaturvasi,

    First off, thanks for accepting my request. I got couple of queries.

    * Should anagram fodder be immediately followed by anagram indicator and vice-versa? In my clue, AF is at the beginning of the clue and AI, at the end. I presume this is non-standard.

    * Is "returning" an acceptable reversal indicator? BTW, there's an expansion that's non-vulgar/ polite.

    BTW, that "verbose" clue was an NJ parody. Wanted to make a clue with all her specialties (initially, regularly, in the borders of, at the end of etc. and in the end, couldn't help using some redundant words.

    Thanks again!

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  16. * Should anagram fodder be immediately followed by anagram indicator and vice-versa?
    ***Followed or preceded by - as grammatical rules will apply. If the clues of Gridman and some others are anatomised, they too may occasionally be breaking the strict grammatical rules though on superficial reading the clues may sound all right. Give me some time, I will see whether I can cie any example. I am going out of town early morning tomorrow and may be unavailable for a couple of days. .

    * Is "returning" an acceptable reversal indicator?
    ***Yes.
    BTW, there's an expansion that's non-vulgar/ polite.
    ***What is it?

    BTW, that "verbose" clue was an NJ parody.
    ***I did notice it. But the comment is till applicable!

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  17. Continuing yesterday's :
    Just clarifying, flimsies were the thin sheets of paper used for making multiple copies on a typewriter !

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  18. OK
    Take these (all from Gridman's work:
    Defeats in circuitous tours (5)
    Anag fodder (AF) follows anag ind (AI). Grammatically OK.
    Auld car refurbished for the count (7)
    AI (verb) follows AF. - OK.
    Agitated nit, not being polite, to gatecrash (7)
    AI (verb) precedes AF (noun) - OK
    Gun goes off, tune breaks out: etc etc
    In each of the cases above AI (v) follows AF (n) - OK

    But consider:
    Men failing to dissect the thriller writer (3,7)
    AF is followed by AI which is not in the past tense.
    If "the thriller writer" were the anag fodder, "to dissect" preceding it as AI would be all right.
    I hope you get the point I am trying to make though I may not be using the exacr grammatical terms. I never learnt grammar! I only write English!

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  19. Thanks, Kishore.
    As I said, any deficiencies on my part may please be excused.

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  20. So it is intended as a DD.
    After accepting your explanation, I would say that FLIMSY is not equal to "lame excuse"; it is an adj qualifying a noun such as pretext, reason, etc. So excuse might be considered redundant.

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  21. * AF's and AI's: Got your point. If you got any examples, please do share.

    * It could also be expanded as "mom I'd like to find." (for what and why? please don't ask me. It's open to interpretation)

    * I agree with your comments with reference to padding. Like I said, I couldn't help it. With regard to definition part, "thin" will suffice I agree, but "very thin" is all right too (IMO)

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  22. Thanks Chaturvasi, I think I'm clear now. Your examples helped.

    How about having a noun as an anagram indicator? I think "plastic" was used as an AI in one of the most recent Gridman's puzzles. Thoughts?

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  23. Feels good to get some abridged first name of Field Marshall Wavell. :-) Stockholm syndrome will let us empathize with others who get it from members here.

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  24. A very nice, thoughtful, knowledgeable write-up on the clues, CV Sir.

    Since this wasn't a contest, let's not make it into one, let's leave it as a learning experience. So, no top 3 from my side - let me just say I enjoyed reading through everyone's clues.

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  25. On the questions about the grammar & placement of anagrind and anagram fodder, these articles will be of interest:

    Camouflaging Anagrams
    Verbal Anagrammar

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  26. Thanks, Shuchi.
    I agree that as it was not announced as a contest (as I stated above) we need make no verdict.
    The detailed analysis that I did should suffice.
    We sure had fun.

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  27. @CV: Great to note you have been there right from the number one. Then, you will be hitting the 10000 mark with this paper before the end of the year.

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