Wednesday 15 September 2010

No 9948, Wednesday 15 Sep 10, M Manna

ACROSS
1   - Use ride as substitute for rest (7) - RESIDUE*
5   - Boy isn't an artist but gets the girl (7) - {LEO}{NO}{RA}
9   - To teach a student that Tipu pilfered is incorrect (5) - PUPIL [T] What is 'To teach' doing here? What is incorrect?
10 - Will's trial at attacking people in (9) - {TEST}{A{MEN}T}
11 - Reappear after being concealed (6) - EMERGE [CD]
12 - Material to make the music stop (8) - {ORGAN}{DIE}
14 - Very thin slick of oil on water (5) - SHEEN [CD] Is the definition correct?
15 - European city made smart with difficulty (9) - AMSTERDAM*
18 - Pharmacist may provide such a container (9) - DISPENSER [DD]
20 - A vast expanse of water that covers a large part of the globe (5) - OCEAN [E]
22 - Salutation of good wishes (8) - GREETING [E]
24 - Have Yen for a Middle East countryman (6) - {YE{ME}N}{I}
26 - It's not a minor change he proposes (9) - NOMINATOR* She can't propose?
27 - Israeli currency used in ancient Greek marketplace! (5) - AGORA [DD]
28 - Cut short a going over (7) - {A}{BRIDGE}
29 - Offering here and now (7) - PRESENT [DD]
DOWN
1   - Put down the newspapers to cut the long grass (9) - {RE{PRESS}ED}


2   - Best have a meal with wanderers (7) - {SUP}REME Anno pending
3   - An old coach calling for attention (9) - DILIGENCE [DD]


4   - Lizards found on iron pathway! (4) - {EF}{TS} No reversal indicator
5   - Land's End presumably if all else has failed (4,6) - LAST RESORT [DD]
6   - Ring mother to get laugh about a large U.S. city (5) - {O}{MA}{HA}
7   - Carried too far to become tired (7) - OVERDID [DD]
8   - Lawrence ran about to find a cave (5) - ANTRE* (ran+TE) New word for me
13 - Flat at Eton semi-converted (10) - MAISONETTE*
16 - Clear one troublesome pest found in the river (9) - {EX{ONE}{RAT}E}
17 - Beggar who admits he is incapable of reforming his character (9) - {MEND}{I}{CANT}
19 - Craft master worried about direction (7) - {STEAM{E}R*}
21 - Notices foreign money gives offence to the viewer (7) - {EYES}{ORE}
22 - Sail from port (5) - GENOA [DD]
23 - Pitch of voice had to be altered right away (5) - TONED ? Anno pending (Addendum - TUrNED - See comments)
25 - Experience the hallucinatory effects of LSD (4) - TRIP [CD]

60 comments:

  1. Hi
    52 more and closing...a pack of cards (not counting extras) .
    Manna seems to be on a river trip. 8d Dee yesterday and 16d today EX(ONE)(RAT)E. The LSD TRIP in 25d Reminded of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. LEO-NO-RA, AMSTERDAM*, YE(ME)N-I and GENOA proper names joined OCEAN in our daily geography. MEND-I-CANT and MAISONETTE* were cute. 17d beggar reminded me of Tennyson’s ‘The Beggar Maid’ who was ‘more beautiful than Day’. I used to think at that time how could she be more beautiful than Doris.

    ANTRE had to be Googled for confirmation.

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  2. 22 - Salutation of good wishes (8) - GREETING [E]

    Should this be DD ?

    Agree with all your other observations, Deepak.

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  3. 23 - Pitch of voice had to be altered right away (5) - TONED ? Anno pending

    TU(-r)NED

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  4. 26 - It's not a minor change he proposes (9) - NOMINATOR* She can't propose?

    Man proposes. She disposes.

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  5. 14A: Is the setter referring to the mild kinda sheen you get when oil is mixed with water?

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  6. In my 837 She should be in capitals.

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  7. Deepak, sheen reminded of shape, sound, smell, silhouette, shadow, and movement in a particular context. You will, of course, remember the ghillie.

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  8. i remember that, without the smell though!

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  9. Hi everyone

    Completed the puzzle, taking a little longer time. Agree with the Colonel on all points raised.

    TESTAMENT, ORGANDIE, PRESENT, TURNED, MAISONETTE, EYESORE (liked this), TRIP etc. were good.

    A contributor at Orkut had first put in DISPENSOR for 18A today. Had no time to point out the error that time. About TURNED, Sandhya has also commented. Remember having come across MENDICANT here with almost the same clue in the recent past.

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  10. 'Any reference to the male shall include the female'
    or such words are common in a number of contracts and legally drafted agreements.

    Male chauvinists beware?!

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  11. The Telegraph Crossword 15th Sept 2010

    20d CHHHCHHOH — hic! (7)

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  12. Smell, especially use of deodorants, aftershaves (if you get the time to shave), perfumes etc, can give the sniper away.

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  13. CH3CH2OH.... Don't know what it is called... 12th grade chemistry....

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  14. Suresh 855

    'Any reference to the male shall include the female'
    or such words are common in a number of contracts and legally drafted agreements.

    Male chauvinists beware?! (here too reference to male shall include the female ? )

    As persons (look I ain't being gender specific) who look for telescopic clues, it should actually be the other way round: Female includes the male

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  15. American actor Hawke has a round fifty, VJ

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  16. Oh, ETHANOL... LOL. Nice one all around...

    CHHHCHHOH makes you go like what the... It takes a few seconds to know what it really means... Surface makes you think it's a sound or something. Clever clue.

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  17. I had initially put in ALCOHOL (gridless), then saw that the first letter had something to do with EVE and hence shifted to ETHANOL.

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  18. Terrible crossword is my general comment

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  19. Kishore, As it ended with an OH, I could guess that it was some alcohol. But was clueless on what exactly it was.

    Organic chemistry gives me a headache.

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  20. That is called an hangover, my friend.

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  21. The Telegraph Crossword 15th Sept 2010

    20d CHHHCHHOH — hic! (7)


    At the very first glance, I expected the answer to be something like Achchchoooooo!. To make matters worse, there came the reference to aftershave, deodorants etc. which could cause allergic rhinitis. ;-)

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  22. Kishore
    You mentioned The Beggar Maid. Let me recall:

    As shines the moon in clouded skies
    She in her poor attire was seen;
    One praised her ankles, one her eyes,
    One her dark hair and lovesome mien.

    I think I must have known the word 'mien' from this poem way back in 1954 or thereabouts. I don't recall how my Dad explained it, whether he used the word 'demeanour'. But the aim of those reading sessions was to enjoy rhymes and metre.

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  23. LOL yep, if OH is back into your system

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  24. Yes, CV, it is a terribly recitable poem: My recollections:

    In robe and crown,
    the King stepped down,
    To meet
    and greet
    on her way.
    It is no wonder, said the Lords,
    She is more beautiful than day.

    I purposely broke the first two lines to emphasise on the rhymes.

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  25. I was taught mien was face, look at school, but later realised it had to do with bearing, air etc. This mien came into the vocabulary before the Chow mein.

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  26. Thanks, CV, I had not heard of this term, though I have come across internal rhyme in poems.

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  27. VJ 927: OH is an abbreviated reverse hangover.

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  28. Kishore (934), yep, I didn't know if it was a standard but that's what I wanted it to mean.

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  29. Richard, my 859 was response to Deepak's 850, though not labelled as such and could have caused confusion as it appeared immediately after the previous post(what a tautology) and could have caused confusion. Sorry.

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  30. Today Google celebrates Agatha Christie's birthday.
    I am asking you to mention not more than three novels that are your most favourite. No problem if they are the same that I mention or anyone else does.
    As for me:
    The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
    And Then There Were None (the politically correct US title)
    Murder on the Orient Express

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  31. Poe-try:

    While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping

    Both alliteration and internal rhyme.

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  32. Agatha Christie on marrying Max Mallowan:

    An archaeologist is the best husband a woman can have. The older she gets the more interested he is in her.

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  33. Believe it or not, CV, the exact ones I like, only the politically incorrect title is what I remember it by.

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  34. Kishore,
    I am yet to latch on to the significance of your countdown.

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  35. Both she and Enid Blyton were writing in an era when scallywags, niggers, negro, picaninny were commonly used. I always wondered about the shift of usage from negro to black. Both refer to colour anyway, so why black ? African would be non colour but still reference to race, but Africa has non negroid people too.

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  36. Deepak, we are approaching the 10000 mark in THC numbering. That's what I meant by myriad in Greek, and 10^4

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  37. In 957, how could I miss out gollywog.

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  38. Deepak's link for Agora tells me it comes from the Hebrew word for silver. Incidentally, the rupee or rupiah also comes from silver. Silver coins were rupiah and gold ones were mohur. BTW, the Konkani word for silver continues to be 'ruppay'. In many Indian languages the root of the word silver refers to 'white' as in Tamil VeLLi or Kannada BeLLi, etc which is exactly what Argentum refer to.

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  40. (Correcting the typo in the previous post)
    CV:

    My favorite Agatha Christie's were:

    1. Body in the Library (humor)
    2. Death on the Nile (for making history come alive)
    3. 4.50 from Paddington (just remember it clearly)

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  41. The Beggar Maid:

    We too had this poem in school. Unlike CV, we never got beyond the first line as it had a reference to what Seinfeld calls 'those attributes much valued by the superficial male' :)

    LNS

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  42. LNS, is that quote from one of Seinfeld's stand-up act or the sitcom? Well I'd have watched each and every episode of "Seinfeld" at least a hundred times, but I'm not able to recollect that particular reference.

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  43. LNS
    I cannot agree with that statement.
    'breast' (sing.) means the front part of the human body, whether man or woman
    'breasts' (pl.) refers to the mammary glands, even the rudimentary ones on the male.
    The first line is
    Her arms across her breast she laid;
    Forget your schooldays. I would be most interested in reading an essay on 'stana' in Sanskrit literature. I just learnt what पीवरस्तनी means.

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  44. I meant "essay ... written by you".

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  45. CV: पीवरस्तनी etc. It's never too late to learn :) Anyway, Sanskrit is the most appropriate language in which to learn such stuff.

    As for the hairsplitting discussion about singular and plural, I have to tell you we were entirely innocent of such grammatical subtleties.

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  46. VJ: I was quoting Seinfeld from memory. I believe the exact words are: she also possessed many of the other qualities prized by the Superficial Man.

    It's in that episode called 'The Switch': http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheSwitch.htm

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  47. CV, VJ, Richard, Kishore:

    Do you remember another poem from your schooldays in which there's this phrase 'sons of unknown fathers'? When the teacher went thru this poem, the older boys i.e., the boys who already had facial hair, in my class started whispering 'bastard' 'bastard'.

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  48. CV:

    You mean whether I've written such an essay. Not yet but it's a consummation devoutly to be wished :)


    LNS

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  49. LNS: Sadly, I recollect no such lines. Maybe Google-uncle can help us. What I am reminded of by your post is that we innocent minds thought the banned words were 'bloody basket'. In fact, due to philetaly, I came to know the Great Indian Bustard before the word quoth.

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  50. Also, LNS, 'consummation devoutly to be wished' was frequently used by Plum.

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  52. Exploring every avenue and leaving no stone unturned...
    LNS
    Did you have The Tempest is school? Even if you had, it must have been abridged.
    I think it must be in PUC or early college.
    Stephano, while in a drunken state, mouths it.
    Fr Siqueira, while teaching Shakespeare, would explain the term 'whore' as a bad woman.

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  53. Kishore: I know it's the Swan of Avon, sir.

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  54. LNS: I prefer to call him the B(e)ard of Avon, though he by any other name would be as well. CV has identified it as The Tempest, tho' my recollections of it include the Taliban like Caliban, Prospero, Ariel (would he have a part in the soap opera ?) and Miranda..

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  55. Rearranging the letters of 'William Shakespeare: the Sweet Swan of Avon' gives:
    Aha! Apt verse: methinks fellow was a wise one.

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  56. CV: English, capable of misunderstanding as she is, gives me a meaning in your last sentence of your latest post that the learned Father taught Bill.

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  57. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar of AoL teaches the barred.

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  58. LNS, thanks for the link. It's a nice episode.

    I don't remember any of the poems I read during my school days. Was not a big fan of English poetry. I think I remember liking Tamil "ilakkiyam" more - liked thiruukkual, works of alwars, ramalinga adigalar etc.

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