Saturday 25 September 2010

No 9957, Saturday 25 Sep 10, Sankalak

ACROSS
1   - Document about important organ is handed over (9) - {DE{LIVER}ED}
5   - Dictator loses direction where buses are kept (5) - DEsPOT


8   - Members vying with each other — for destructive power (4,4) - {ARMS} {RACE} Nice one
9   - Chicken in the making, say (6) - EMBRYO [CD}
11 - Close to the davit, aperture that holds the oar (5) - {T}{HOLE}
12 - In a sentence, it may mean reduction (9) - REMISSION [CD]
13 - Preserve a way with a misleading fabrication (6) - {CAN}{A}{RD}
14 - Male voice that may cut out one strange note (8) - {BAR}{I}{TONE*}
16 - Would a team yearn for such a glance? (8) - {SIDE}{LONG}
18 - Visible feature in a spectacle (6) - ASPECT [T]
22 - A French editor catches stable boy for not being smartly turned out (9) - {UN}{GROOM}ED}
23 - Motivate member wearing garland wrong way round (5) - {I{MP}EL<-}
24 - Set of people, including wife, become mature (4,2) - {GRO{W} UP}
25 - A growth right by a racecourse (4-4) - {R}{AIN TREE}
26 - Old German ship with men of French build (5) - EMDEN (men+de)
27 - Dish for cooking cereals, outsize (9) - CASSEROLE* (cereals+os)
DOWN
1   - Playing cards? It can be rigorous (7) - DRASTIC*
2   - Satire provides light on love being hidden (7) - {LAMP}{O{O}N}
3   - A spineless one lacks it (9,6) - VERTEBRAL COLUMN [CD]
4   - What often gets broken in sport (6) - RECORD [CD]
5   - The subject for ‘daily study'! (8,7) - {DOMESTIC}{SCIENCE} &lit
6   - Riot cop stumbles at entrance to building (7) - PORTICO*
7   - Severely beat as would a heartless teacher with a cat (7) - {TeacheR}{OUNCE}
10 - Mother gets name in capital (5) - {AMMA}{N}
15 - Little old man missing second in full DNA sequence (5) - GeNOME


16 - Evade duty perhaps (7) - SMUGGLE [CD]
17 - Comic character whom a good wife and daughter upset (7) - DAGWOOD* (a+good+w+d)
19 - Grass found in the Pyrenees part of Spain (7) - ESPARTO [T]
20 - Flammable liquid with a funny blue tone, no black in it (7) - TOLUENEb*
21 - Notions about dawn of love become standards of perfection (6) - {IDEA{L}S}

52 comments:

  1. Good morning folks:

    Another nice one from Sankalak. A few clues took longer time though.

    DELIVERED, DEPOT, ARMS RACE, EMBRYO (liked this), REMISSION, CANARD, BARITONE, SIDELONG, ASPECT, UNGROOMED, IMPEL, GROW UP (liked this too), RAIN-TREE, CASSEROLE, LAMPOON, VERTEBRAL COLUMN, DOMESTIC SCIENCE (these two pick of the day), DAGWOOD, TOLUENE etc. were enjoyable.

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  2. 26A

    SMS Emden was the German ship that bombed Madras Harbour on the night of 22 September, 1914. எம்டன் is Tamil word for Emden on which LNS had commented earlier on this blog.

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  3. hmm! better and better! :) Some tough clues today... haven't finished it yet. About 6-7 left to do. so am not looking at Richard's comment and the answers yet! But couldn't resist putting in my props for some awesome clues!
    Really enjoyed 15D and 17D. :)
    Some really clever anagrams in there.
    Was confused by "French" in 22A for the longest time, before finally getting it! Clever! :)

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  4. Is "Mother" for AMMA acceptable?
    I don't think it's included in any standard English dictionary. Besides, I think it's a term used only in south India. In north India it may not be 'amma'.
    What do solvers think?

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  5. CV,

    Amma is definitely acceptable. It is not restricted to South India, it is used in the north as well

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  6. Another steady puzzle from Sankalak. A curious mix of words.

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  7. Not happy about amma for mother, but have to accept such things are going to be part and parcel of these puzzles.

    Considering who/what is lined up next this might not even count as a misdemeanour... but I jest.

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  8. The Free Dictionary (Online) defines AMMA as 'An abbes or spiritual mother' see AMMA

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  9. Ma, mum, mater and dam are the words clued using mother.

    Amma will not be known to persons of non-Indian origin.

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  10. Since this is an Indian CW we should accept a sprinkling of common Indian words

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  11. I agree with Chaturvasi that AMMA is an Indian term, in unadulterated form.

    But in a few shades of Urdu, AMMA does stand for mother, mostly as a term of endearment. The late Hindi actor popularized the term with songs and expressions like Munne ki amma, yeh toh bata, teri bitiya ka abba ka naam kya hai and Mere hone wale bacchon ki amma.

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  12. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amma

    Looks like there are more references to Amma as a female entity outside India. In the context of mother its limited to India, predominantly to southern parts as CVasi noted, but one or two upper regions too.

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  13. The late Hindi actor Mehmood, I meant.

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  14. This CW is meant basically for people of Indian origin so why the objection?

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  15. I have not heard AMMA being used in North India. They generally say mataji or ma. For a national paper I have my reservations about the use of amma for mother. But then in a crossword clue I am willing to permit some leeway and would not seriously fault the use or the word.

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  16. Richard,

    Mehmood's Amma is from Hyderabadi Hindi.

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  17. I don't agree that Amma is not used up North, it definitely is, you even see it being used in so many of the present day hindi serials

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  18. I suppose if we can accept a predominantly Hindi suffix of JI for honorific as an accepted practice, why not amma. If memory serves right, we did see JI in one of the none too distant THC puzzles...

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  19. Deepak 08:59 Agreed that Mehmood played Hyderabadi characters in those movies. But isn't it Hyderabadi Urdu spoken by Deccani sect of a certain community?

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  20. Ammadiyo!!Kaappaathunga (Save us) Amma!
    Think about it and maybe amma is among the first few words a child utters the world over.

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  21. Notwithstanding the above discussion I don't think there is anyone who would not have got 'AMMA' in 10D while attempting today's CW

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  22. Either way mother gets name. Capital!

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  23. Amma is commonly used in North India, especially in rural areas.

    It may pass muster seeing that audience that this CW caters to.

    I wonder how a CW editor would deal with it were there one. Will there be one?

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  24. Amma mia! What an animated response!

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  25. YESSSSS!!! AGAIN!!!!
    My second complete CW!!! YEAAAAA!!!
    And I learn my lesson of patience! I almost gave up on the NE quadrant again... with about 5-6 left, I was sorely tempted to look up the answers here! Finally realized that 4D was RECORD... not RACKET! haha

    But... I stuck with it! Had to use a lot more Google help than my first complete one though. TR"OUNCE" was tricky... and I needed help for DOMESTIC... and confirmations for ESPARTO and EMDEN.

    Other than that just 1 stupid mistake... Penned SNUGGLE instead of SMUGGLE!.. as in "snuggled up" in bed to avoid duty (going to work). Yeah.. I got a vivid imagination! haha

    Anyway, cheers all, am finally off for my lonnnnng overdue run in this hot Chennai weather. :)

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  26. btw Col: Same issue with the Gnome Union meeting cartoon. I see the text but no image. Strange... tried it every possible way...

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  27. @ Suresh: I can't believe your prophesy came true so quickly! You were absolutely right! (Am taking a pass for Smuggle instead of Snuggle!).

    Believe it or not, I remembered ur words b4 giving up on my last few words today. That's what kept me going.

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  28. AMMA was a nice twist I thought.

    I think this is a politically motivated puzzle, with TN elections around the corner.

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  29. CV

    Ref 5D.

    Is Study an accepted clueword for Science?

    Study is the acquiring of information or the pursuit of some branch of knowledge. But, it is not restricted to sciences alone.

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  30. The subject for ‘daily study'!
    I have absolutely no prob with the above clue.
    Here, for def we have to reread the whole clue.
    Pun is on 'daily'. Not in the sene of every day but in the sense of char or housemaid. What can we expect her to 'study' (read)? DOMESTIC SCIENCE!

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  31. VJ
    You're reading too much into the clue!
    Anyway I like your propensity!

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  32. VJ You have a vivid imagination

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  33. Though Sankalak has always been a very good setter, his present set has an added joie de vivre and X factor. It's almost as if he has stepped up his game a notch. I specially liked most of the CDs today

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  34. LOL! I thot VJ was just being facetious w/ his "political" comment. :)

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  35. @ maddy 10:39 - I ditto that thot! :)

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  36. @ CV 9:47 - Could u please elaborate? I don't get the pun on 'daily'. How is daily a maid?

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  37. Hari Just look up a standard Dictionary for daily and you have the answer

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  38. @ Suresh 11:31 - Hmm... I understand the reference to daily "help"... but it's no different from other common 'dailies' if u will... daily routine, pills, dose, dozen, double... etc.
    I'm not saying it's a bad clue, just that it's a stretch... :)

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  39. Hari (1149), it's a british usage. A daily is a maid who works on a daily basis.

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  40. Amma in North India? If only Harbhajan had used 'Amma' instead of 'Ma', then a whole lot of trouble would have been spared!

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  41. Hari It is not a stretch. Daily is used as such without the addition of the word help etc. This is the dictionary def. This is unlike daily dose, daily routine etc. ,where the word daily has no meaning without the second word.

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  42. @ Suresh/VJ - Thx. I'll take the "stretch" comment back. :-)

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  43. What are you doing Mr Kishore - come and join the discussion - daily amma

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  44. Must be resting, he had sent me a couple of SMS,s yesterday

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  45. Richard just called me saying my name was taken here. Hence, here - am. My 3d is across right now and - was a little cross with somebody and thought of preponing (it is fun to use Indian English sometimes) my exit. So just popped in for the day.

    Been reading a lot of Ray Bradbury (CV, do you like his work ?)when not working against deadlines.

    Have had a lot of fun with the new comic book setters reminding me of Asterix and Superman. Today - was reminded of a fav song of mine by the German ship. - dont know if any of you recall it:

    The refrain went:

    for seven days and seven nights she sailed the seven seas....

    we got to sink the Bismark, the world depends on us.

    BTW for all those people wondering what '-' is doing in the above text: it stands for the vertical pronoun which is presently horizontal in my case.

    Time to rest the case and me too.

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  46. Kishore, others might have 'taken' your name here, but make sure to retain it, for you would certainly need it. ;-)

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  47. Kishore
    Of course, I like Ray Bradbury. He was a facourite with Sujatha, the Tamil writer, who translated a story of his in Tamil.This was published in Kumudam.

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  48. A corrigendum from Kishore to his 21:29 post:

    "The refrain went:

    for seven days and seven nights we searched the seven seas....

    we got to sink the Bismark, the world depends on us."

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  49. Just to show I am better and (actually not) kicking:
    chancer, sofabed, tiger, roganjosh, assault, acronym, shooting gallery, observation post, lentigo, atelier, quasimodo, loose, emerged, ernesto, cutlass, augusto, circuit training, ruritania, sigma, funeral in berlin, brownie, dahomey, go it alone, oblique, santa fe, ominous, torpedo, ovoid.

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