Saturday 9 October 2010

No 9969, Saturday 09 Oct 10, Gridman

ACROSS
1   - British fashion designer holding a drive for part of a circle (8) - {QU{A}{DR}ANT}
6   - Enthusiasm for last letter by each learner (4) - {Z}{EA}{L}


9   - Catch parent on the move (6) - ENTRAP*
10 - Choke on bit of boiled vegetable (3,4) - {POT HER}{B} Pother is a ew word for me
13 - A mere door, perhaps, through which the jet set goes (9) - AERODROME*
14 - Broadcasting very happily (2,3) - ON AIR [DD]
15 - Cut a cross journalist (4) - {A}{X}{ED}
16 - It keeps one buoyant (4,6) - LIFE JACKET [CD]
19 - Boy's right! Guess what a young girl may want to flaunt (4,6) - {T{R}IM} {FIGURE}
21 - Turn to Victor, always! (4) - {V}{EER} Put in EVER first and got stuck till the end!! VEER is also one of our commenters here
24 - Lord Siva's vehicle (5) - NANDI [E]
25 - Where lightning is said to strike twice (4,5) - SAME PLACE I thought Lightning 'never' strikes in the same place twice!!
26 - Dorian's carried out raids (7) - INROADS*
27 - Novelist has a point on perfume base (6) - {N}{ORRIS} Had to google this one
28 - Publicity in North America for elemental music in India (4) - {N{AD}A}
29 - Not the one to utter an ‘aye' (8) - NAYSAYER [CD]
DOWN
2   - Weaken some gunner venturesomely (7) - UNNERVE [T]
3   - Mock eiderdown — not own and worn-out (6) - DERIDEown*
4   - Thinking well of Andhra Pradesh corroborating (9) - {AP}{PROVING}
5   - Home of the brave? (5) - TEPEE [CD] Interesting description, have a look at the picture below
7   - One might rely on it to save many a sight (3,4) -  EYE BANK [CD]
8   - Testing facilities (12) - LABORATORIES [E]
11 - Involving give-and-take on a kind of street? (3-3) - TWO-WAY [CD]
12 - Be wary of PTA tie Antony established (3,9) - PAY ATTENTION*
17 - Operative Rae, new one in my accommodation, to get wages (4,5) - {EAR*}{N} {M{ONE}Y}
18 - Continent where aircraft is hovering without right (6) - AFRICArt*
20 - Paid no attention to eroding ground (7) - IGNORED*
22 - Woman holding up entry form is dodgy (7) - {EV{ASIV<-}E}
23 - Ancient city section in South Africa (6) - {S{PART}A}
25 - Poles go around the States for a woman (5) - {S}{USA}{N}

65 comments:

  1. Hello everyone

    Nice to have more clues related to India, like NANDI, NADA. You feel a sense of belonging.

    21A, Veer, this is dedicated to you!

    SAME PLACE, TWO WAY, EARN MONEY - nice ones.

    AERODROME - hope some expert will not wonder if an aerodrome can handle jets, the phrase jet-set apart. :-)

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  2. Hi
    One more of our friends figures in 21a. I don’t know if he has a 19a, a TRIM FIGURE. But 25a, SAME PLACE ?? I think a negative got missed somewhere. Hence, this clue gets 28a NADA in Spanish.

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  3. That Nandi, the Mysore one Deepak ? Cant be Lepakshi looking at the background.

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  4. 25A - Where lightning is said to strike twice (4,5) - SAME PLACE I thought Lightning 'never' strikes in the same place twice!!

    Even I had the same reservation. It has been dinned into our heads from school-going days. Any recent research saying otherwise?

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  5. Something wrong with 25A. Lightning is said not to strike in the same place twice.

    Did not enjoy today's CW very much. 24A, 8D I thought were okay in a quick crossword and not in a cryptic.

    Apna apna Khyal hai

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  6. 19A - Boy's right! Guess what a young girl may want to flaunt (4,6) - {T{R}IM} {FIGURE}

    Is the insertion indicator clear here? Maybe 'Boy's got right' could have been in place.

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  7. Richard. Lightning can strike the same place more than once, but the popular saying is that it doesn't.

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  8. Liked the brave clue best.


    Richard, I agree that was what was dinned in. But logically, if a certain area had a tall building with a lightning conductor, there is a good chance of it striking in the same place. In a lighter vein, lightning is like a bad carpenter...

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  9. If I remember right, the Lepakshi one has the street and the electric poles on its left...

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  10. surprisingly easy outing from Gridman today. Was able to get through the bulk of it in under half an hour... and then I got stuck! :)

    couldn't get NORRIS and TEPEE for the life of me. Was left wondering what kind of HERB was 10A .. never considered "POT"! lol! :)

    Other than that, mostly easy type clues today. Similar reservations on LIGHTNING...I thot maybe Gridman was trying to be clever... but then, that would probably require an ! at the end...

    Thot 19A and 22D were really clever.

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  11. Scientifically, the statement that Lightning cannot strike twice in the same place has been proved to be untrue. I read somewhere on the web that the Empire State Building is struck many times during the same thunderstorm.

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  12. I had the same doubt about lightning too.

    By the way, when I first solved Quadrant,Zeal and Axed I thought Gridman was aiming at a pangram and so it turned out.

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  13. Kishor @ 8:35 & 8:41

    That is the NANDI bull at Chamundi Hill in Mysore, the road is to my right and to the left in the picture.

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  14. There might be a mistake in 25d but see

    http://www.weatherimagery.com/blog/lightning-strike-twice/

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  15. Bhavan @ 8:43

    Didn't notice the Pangram that's what happens when one doesn't solve it on paper.

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  16. @ Kishore 8:40 - Very clever remark on "bad carpenter"! lol! It reminds me of something Drew Carey would've said on Whose Line Is It Anyway! :)

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  17. @Deepak 08:43. The clue refers to it as a saying or something that is said. In that context there is a missing negative.

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  18. CV @ 8:46

    But the standard phrase is 'Lightning never strikes in the same place twice' irrespective of the fact that this is scientifically untrue.

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  19. Sures @ 8:50

    You got me there. However even though the colour is the same it is is not 'THE' red one :-)

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  20. Deepak
    I have conceded that there is a mistake in 25a. This has escaped in several stages of revision.

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  21. Richard 08:39
    Please see
    Possessive -> Has
    here
    http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/04/apostrophe-s-in-cryptic-clues.html

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  22. @ Bhavan : Very interesting! Did not notice the pangram. :)That was clever...

    Re: lightning... I suppose most (if not all) of us know that lightning can in fact strike a spot repeatedly, but the popular saying is contradictory. Hence, my 2c. would be that if it's used in a clue referring to that idiom, then it should conform... or if debunking the myth, then it should have some sort of indicator... like "Really?" or "!" or something along those lines. :-D

    Oh... and here's a little link on the idiom..
    http://www.answers.com/topic/lightning-never-strikes-twice-in-the-same-place

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  23. CV

    Sorry for striking on that for 'two' long.

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  24. Bhavan while entering his quota of answers in the Orkut community: The Hindu Crossword Solutions had the following as a second deck to his mandatory caption:
    butter trailing a sharp feeling ...
    Howevermuch I thought (in the wee hours), I did not understand it.
    That makes sense now - in the light of an observation above by the selfsame person.
    Crossword compilers don't have long memory!

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  25. boy's right seems ok to me. As in...
    It's a boy's right to be a doofus. The right "belongs" to the boy... and hence is inside TIM..

    But hey, what do I know.. I'm an amateur! :-D

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  26. Kishore 08:40 - If lightning is a bad carpenter, why is it called a 'bolt' from the blue?

    Btw, missed mentioning this yesterday. After your Pun-jab and Hyderabad Pun-tulu labels, thank heavens you were not in Satyamangalam. You would have been called Veerap-PUN!

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  27. Butter = Ram in Bhavan's context. Now, how am I supposed to see that on a Friday evening when a six pack is chilling in the refrigerator! :-)

    Nice one, though, Bhavan.

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  28. I wrote above: Crossword compilers don't have long memory!

    Now, I would like to add this: And they don't solve their own crosswords!

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  29. Utensil weight is today's puzzle (7)

    Would that work CVasi sir?

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  30. My doubt on 19A (Boy's right) has been cleared. Thanks, Chaturvasi and Hari.

    After all, boys have got to be right. Right?

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  31. SAtya 09:16
    Well, it might. But 'in today's puzzle' is too broad a definition for the word required. Solvers may not see A to Z of it!

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  32. Richard said,

    After all, boys have got to be right. Right?

    That sure was my opinion until one week into my marriage. Not after that. :-)

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  33. Ah, Kishore @8.34, wish you were more right with the TRIM FIGURE - I'd probably go better with a ROUND FIGURE better these days..But, though coincidental, I will take any good way I can to get my name into the paper.

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  34. Satya, on that point I'll go with the majority opinion. Don't want to be 'left' out.

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  35. Satya, I liked your clue with utensil weight. Good one.

    By the way, will PANGRAM mean a village in India growing betel leaves?

    TRIM FIGURE reminded me of an old anecdote. A husband was telling a friend that his wife had bought an expensive dress for a ridiculous figure.

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  36. Richard, in that vein, is Kishore from Pun graam? :-)

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  37. I have been pulling his legs too often. Aur PUN-ga lene se dar hai. (Scare of inviting further trouble.)

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  38. Jo Kishore ne kaha tha woh pun thee.
    Jo path pe chaltha hai woh punthee.

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  39. Kishore should henceforth be called "Pun-nagai Mannan".

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  40. So, an aggressive punster can be an ugra-punthee?

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  41. Nice puzzle on a whole. Really loved solving. Got stuck in Norris and veer ( i too put ever ).

    Initially put Hot Herb then corrected it as Pot Herb ( thinking about sprouts at that instant)

    Doubts on same place cleared now at the lightning speed the comments originated.

    Good day and happy weekend

    Mathu

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  42. I think we can call an aggressive punster, a punther.

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  43. CGB 10:18 I guess punnagai in Tamil means either smile or one with a (beautiful) smile.

    Names in different languages representing smile or one with a beautiful smile are really nice and pleasant-sounding. Here are a few examples:

    Smita, Suhasini etc in Indian languages. Even Kamal Haasan might mean one with a lotus-like, blossoming smile.

    Many parents name their female children 'Sushmita' which is a Bengali version. I won't term it wrong. But in other states, 'Susmita' could be more correct.

    Trust the Col won't throw us out for talking shop. ;-)

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  44. While on smile, Tabassum and Ibtisam of Arabic origin are also nice names.

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  45. Richard@11.24

    Kamal Hassan starred in Punnagai Mannan and your ref therefore is apt, as always.

    Your detailed dwelling on smile will definitely
    add smile to many a face and surely Col won't frown!

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  46. 16A
    So much of discussion today on so many topics and no reference to Mae West appearing in different form?

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  47. The only friend of ours who could kept Mae West afloat seems to be away from his desk.

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  48. * It should read "who could have kept...."

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  49. Having faced the (khap ? )pun-chayat, I have only one thing to say:

    PaNam, Pun, Paasam...

    I see the discussion today has revolved around the longest word in English.

    Talking of MW, I think, the next generation talked in terms of Dolly Parton...

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  50. And that's what, two generations before this one?

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  51. At the least, keeping in view the rate of multiplication..

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  52. Kishore, 12:56 The longest word s<-mile->s...

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  53. Richard, 1341,def better than floccino... etc., huh?

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  54. Kishore fnnpf is not the longest word Look up Longest word in English in Wiki

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  56. Suresh, I know it is not. That is why the etc.

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  57. CV Sir 09 40 The owner of the hotel does eat here - was seen in one of the hotels in Matunga in seventy-eighties

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  58. Talking of multiplication in 1310, I remembered multiplication is sometimes dead easy, to double a number, one has to just shift the digits left and add a zero. Anyone remember this?

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  59. I really liked this clue (from today's Indian Express crossword)

    "Of all the trees, only the ashes will be left after this (6,4)

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  60. Dr. DS. Yes it is. Nice solving :)

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