Thursday 15 September 2011

No 10259, Thursday 15 Sep 11, M Manna

In a hurry as the better half has sprained her ankle and I have to drop her at school.
13A has me stumped. Looks like a mix up between the clue and solution again.
ACROSS
1   - Getting notice before midday. A worker will find it very hard (7) - ADAMANT {AD}{AM}{ANT}
5   - Tell again in detail (7) - RECOUNT [E]
9   - A member of a Slavic people (7) - RUSSIAN [GK]
10 - To go before in importance (7) - PRECEDE [E]
11 - Number of things connected in series (5) - CHAIN [E]
12 - Rider seen ordering team for a sleigh (9) - REINDEERS*
13 - A swimmer having to carry a weapon is terrible ! (9) - T?N?E?I?E ?
15 - He has given gold to offspring (5) - ORSON {OR}{SON}
16 - Composition for eight musicians (5) - OCTET [DD]
18 - Five hundred is the price of release (9) - DISCHARGE {D}{I}{CHARGE}
21 - Record of golfers (scratch, with proof of membership) (5,4) - SCORE CARD {SCORE} {CARD}
24 - Set to zero (5) - RESET [E]
25 - Spring-lock? (7) - RINGLET [CD]
26 - Essence of mince-pie, as I see it (7) - EPITOME {EPI*}{TO}{ME}
27 - Complex sort, this daughter of Agamemnon (7) - ELECTRA [DD]
28 - Most mysterious river bug (7) - DEEPEST {DEE}{PEST}
DOWN
1   - Fruit that's quite new to Capri (7) - APRICOT*
2   - Jack gets Mark to refrain from voting (7) - ABSTAIN {AB}{STAIN}
3   - Evening for taking aside, politically! (9) - ALIGNMENT [DD]
4   - Continuity of state (5) - TENOR [E]
5   - Restorers who go and get married again? (9) - REPAIRERS {RE-PAIRERS}
6   - Set of principles American Indian tribe have for the dead (5) - CREED {CREE}{D}
7   - Sue's disposed to embrace Leslie, but in vain (7) - USELESS {USE{LES}S}
8   - Senator out to overthrow government (7) - TREASON*
14 - Drink from tin an idea if drunk (6,3) - INDIAN TEA*
15 - Ring the sage without the right as in disagreement (9) - OTHERWISE {O}{THE}{R}{WISE}
16 - Keep an eye on commentator who is one run short! (7) - OBSERVE OBSERVEr
17 - Severely censure Nero then cut him out (7) - TROUNCE {nero+cut)*
19 - Bring back to normal state (7) - RESTORE [E]
20 - Beg for a change in the net rate (7) - ENTREAT*
22 - Let bill show a striking effect (5) - ECLAT (let+ac)*
23 - Quite a number make a study of terror (5) - DREAD {D}{READ}

22 comments:

  1. Pronounce following answers from today’s CW without pause:

    REPAIR
    RESET
    RESTORE
    REINDEER

    9a reminded me of Boney M’s Rasputin: Oh, those Russians...

    13a seems badly jinxed. 15d ‘without the R’?.

    Deepak, best wishes for Gita didi. An advice from Pakeezah : ‘Apne paon zamin pe mat rakhna’

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  2. Tangerine is the only thing I can think of, that fits the Xings, but I have absolutely no clue about the clue.

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  3. The answer to the clue is:

    A L(ARM)ING

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  4. But that would be (8)...

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  5. TENDERISE also fits the crossings but not the clue

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  6. Hopefully, we will get the answer and the clue tommorrow (is it still Manna?). And probably fill up ALARMING with that clue.

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  7. Kishore @ 8:34,

    I too used to get stumped by 'without' but obviously it is correct cluing.
    The sage without the right = {THE}{R}{WISE} with WISE for SAGE

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  8. Today is the last for this round of Manna. Tomorrow and day after we will be tackling Neyartha on a different front

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  9. Agree, without as in outside.

    So the ALARMING TANGERINE/TENDERISE thing remains WC's description of detailed 9a
    It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma(enclosed by a conundrum*); but perhaps there is a key

    *words added

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  10. T(ANG{L}ER)INE ??
    Angler Fish and Tine are tenuous links for "swimmer" and "weapon"...

    But where does the L go??

    And what is so terrible about a Tangerine?

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  11. Apologies for being a grammar fascist but:
    reindeerS !!!!!
    What next - sheepS ??

    Didn't enjoy today, what with the clue mix up, and too many easy clues. RESET ?!

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  12. I had the same doubt about reindeer, but chambers lists the plural.

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  13. CV,
    The Chambers 12th edition that I just got has 64 pages in the middle titled 'The Word Lover's Miscellany' and 'A Wordgame Companion' is it there in all the Chambers?
    These pages have items like 2 letter words; less obvious 3 letter words; Words with J,Q,X,Z; words with Q not followed by U; Indicator words for CW clues; words to cherish; extinct words etc etc

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  14. 'Childrens' on many shop boards ;-)

    WC in 906 obviously refers to Gainshundred Kirksick and not Hydro Cupboard.

    Alok, nothing terrible about tangerines, it is pineapples (of the exploding variety) that are terrible. I agree your explanation is a possible, but a little far fetched. Tine is only a part of a fork (agreed it is the business end), but in that case would a muzzle be a weapon?

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  15. Google search on tangerine + terrible brings up a resort and grill, both of which have some terrible reviews amidst others ... Perhaps Manna went to one of those :)

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  16. Thank you, Deepak 11:01

    That Miscellany is't in the earlier edn. of the BRB. It was, however, recently available for free d/l on Chambers website.

    If I did not mention it here, such lists can be encountered on the Web.

    BRB is a popular abbr. for Big Red Book, which is what C12 like other versions is. Except, it's getting bigger and bigger! Even then, certain words have to be / are deleted from the corpus.

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  17. can it refer to "An orange ‘57 Chevy station wagon called the “Terrible Tangerine,” with a fuel-injected 283-cubic-inch V-8 and four-speed transmission. It was not a delight to look at — let’s just say that “terrible” applied in every way except the output of the engine — but it was a winner"

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  18. Repair in Tamil we use both sense - something is out of order / set right. 'Repair aayiduthu' & 'Repair panniyachi'.

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  19. Couple of blunders I made today:

    27A: The Strauss (Richard) opera of the same name was mentioned in the book I'm reading right now, and I suppose that sub-consciously influenced me to fill 27A in with a K instead of a C!

    16D: I wrote it down as a {OVER}{SEE -r} and wondered why Manna was equating a commentator with a seer! :D

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  20. Kishore 1152

    'Childrens' on many shop boards ;-)

    Many peoples keep saying that.

    Other examples from signboards - stationeries, hardwares and many others.

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  21. Many peoples keep saying that.

    That's actually grammatically correct, isn't it?

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