tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post1609173299506883193..comments2024-03-29T18:42:03.896+05:30Comments on THE HINDU CROSSWORD CORNER: No.11112, Monday 16 Jun 2014, VulcanCol_Gopinathhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06166793743790376031noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-23994071124472374132015-09-11T19:09:29.307+05:302015-09-11T19:09:29.307+05:30Its 1800
Towards the end Shopkeeper 1 gave Rs.200 ...Its 1800<br />Towards the end Shopkeeper 1 gave Rs.200 goods + Rs.800 cash to Lady = Rs.1000 loss<br />He also gave the duplicate Rs.1000 note to Shopkeeper 2 and then had to return real Rs.1000 = Loss of Rs.1000 again<br />But in the middle when Shopkeeper 1 gave real Rs.800 to the lady he kept with himself real Rs.200 with himself that he took from Shopkeeper 2. Therefore, Loss of Rs.1000 (Lady) + Loss of Real Rs. 1000 (Shopkeeper II) - Rs. 200 (that he got from Shopkeeper 2) = Rs. 1800AdityaShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04379859661504103908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-55470342945230091932014-06-16T22:26:40.188+05:302014-06-16T22:26:40.188+05:30Remembered Anarche in the Indy:
1d Break me? ...Remembered Anarche in the Indy:<br /><br /> 1d Break me? (4-4)Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-15034195074918039012014-06-16T22:23:27.865+05:302014-06-16T22:23:27.865+05:30I wanted to say Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, but ...I wanted to say Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, but then we don't have a tinker and tailor and the soldier did not answer. And the spy?, you ask? The Official Secrets Act applies ...Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-66862898730911668352014-06-16T22:22:07.889+05:302014-06-16T22:22:07.889+05:30Hahaha, yes. Nice variety there.
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Hahaha, yes. Nice variety there.<br />,<br />Aakash Sridharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857485101313290643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-5168708488184016642014-06-16T22:21:45.950+05:302014-06-16T22:21:45.950+05:30At Half Time (remember the clue a few days back fr...At Half Time (remember the clue a few days back from KKK 5 Break in a football game is two-thirds of the tie (4-4)). Muller's got in 2. And between the two, gott in Hummels !Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-87281502752117140742014-06-16T21:32:16.754+05:302014-06-16T21:32:16.754+05:30Time for Germany vs. Portugal!Time for Germany vs. Portugal!Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-49903488737843218822014-06-16T21:03:50.139+05:302014-06-16T21:03:50.139+05:30@Chaturvasi Sir
Of course it's not literally c...@Chaturvasi Sir<br />Of course it's not literally cut off from the bottom half, I just meant there weren't too many crossings to start out with.Tony Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949054105962074846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-3210756864803654822014-06-16T20:48:30.045+05:302014-06-16T20:48:30.045+05:30Saw Gita Iyer's post on FB. Heartfelt condolen...Saw Gita Iyer's post on FB. Heartfelt condolences to Gita on the loss of her father<br />D.Srinivasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07981815894015797637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-63487173112483485882014-06-16T20:38:06.457+05:302014-06-16T20:38:06.457+05:30Net loss 200 worth goods and 800 cash, total 1000....Net loss 200 worth goods and 800 cash, total 1000. Period.Deepak Gopinathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06337043600355573557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-37236338496277593222014-06-16T20:07:36.820+05:302014-06-16T20:07:36.820+05:30Thanks, Mohsin, for analysing the fallacies. Did n...Thanks, Mohsin, for analysing the fallacies. Did not have the patience ti type all that stuff. Between the sailor, airconditioner, Mr Walker and the ex-banker, they managed to create quite a few answers!Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-51810218965112402002014-06-16T19:49:49.044+05:302014-06-16T19:49:49.044+05:30If from one cell on one side of the grid, top or l...If from one cell on one side of the grid, top or left, we are able to trace a line through white cells to another on another side, bottom or right, the grid is not actually divided in halves. That we are able to do here.<br />Also, every other cell in every slot is checked.<br />In this grid you solve 1ac or 28ac and you get the opening letters of several down slots. So the question of any problem arising out of a cut-off part does not seem to arise.<br />This is my opinion just as others may have theirs.Chaturvasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00284780490945841507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-53844832876148039032014-06-16T19:49:45.560+05:302014-06-16T19:49:45.560+05:30Have come across the puzzle quite a few times. Th...Have come across the puzzle quite a few times. The fallacies in the non-1000 answers:<br /><br />Ranger --- the 800 returned to the other shop-owner was claimed earlier in the form of genuine 1000 rupees (of which 200 was given to the lady). So, the net loss is, as your first statement claims, 200+800<br /><br />Bhargav's first comment --- The 200 he has realised by way of sale also had to be paid to the other shopkeeper (he took 200+800 initially, in exchange for the counterfeit note, and then had to return 1000). <br /><br />Raghunath --- "he gives the other guy 1000 (loss no. 2)" --- he'd taken 1000 from the other guy earlier (in exchange for the counterfeit note). So, now he just returns the 1000. No loss here. <br />"And 1000 as he's stuck with it" -- No idea where this came from<br /><br />Bhargav's second comment --- Like you said, he's only temporarily duped the other keeper. His monetary loss is 800, but he's also lost a product worth 200.<br /><br />Richard's comment (via Bhargav)--- If he'd confront the woman, she'd just take back the 1000 and give a genuine Rs 1000 note (she has 800 in cash and a product worth 200 with her. There's no reason she'd pay more than 800+200). Or she could give back the 800 she was given as change + the product worth 200. Either way, that's a net of 1000.<br /><br />The easiest way to see it is: The only reason the shopkeeper incurs a loss is because of a fake note worth Rs X. Now, since the lady's gotten rid of the note, and the other shopkeeper's expectedly reclaimed his due, the first shopkeeper must have incurred a loss of X. Like Kishore said, it's a zero-sum gamemohsinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08749919963362102268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-40915873218950611222014-06-16T19:01:01.320+05:302014-06-16T19:01:01.320+05:30As per Collins Thesaurus, "grafting" is ...As per Collins Thesaurus, "grafting" is one of the informal words defining "venal."<br /><br />Maybe it works like "He was a grafting politician" or something like that.VJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06104893127782704192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-47252582882543512662014-06-16T18:59:27.634+05:302014-06-16T18:59:27.634+05:30Solving THC after an extremely long time and could...Solving THC after an extremely long time and couldn't have found a better one to start with. There are so many gems in just one grid that it's too difficult to pick one out. Wonderful work, Vulcan.<br /><br />PS: Just so that I don't appear like a complete fanboy, I'll nitpick a little. The grid skeleton could have been a little more connected. It was almost like solving 2 separate crosswords (the top half and the bottom half). But that's only a minor quibble, immensely enjoyed the grid.Tony Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949054105962074846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-71838845534687022942014-06-16T18:36:18.750+05:302014-06-16T18:36:18.750+05:30CV Sir @11.25-Can 'grafting' also be a Ger...CV Sir @11.25-Can 'grafting' also be a Gerund?Ramanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03397749600795786434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-6950113052546148602014-06-16T18:24:24.822+05:302014-06-16T18:24:24.822+05:30If that lizard is a chameleon, one may end up with...If that lizard is a chameleon, one may end up with colourful Moods ...Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-50010271604165032212014-06-16T18:20:19.031+05:302014-06-16T18:20:19.031+05:30Typo in my 556, please drop the 2 in 1000 ie:
It ...Typo in my 556, please drop the 2 in 1000 ie:<br /><br />It is a zero sum game, as illustrated below, with each persons' profit or loss:<br />Next door shopkeeker Nil<br />Lady 1000+<br />Shopkeeper 1000-<br />Total NilKishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-60867930242256588512014-06-16T18:17:57.734+05:302014-06-16T18:17:57.734+05:30I had it down as Rs. 1000 too, but Rs. 2000 happen...I had it down as Rs. 1000 too, but Rs. 2000 happened to be the popular answer, so wanted more ideas. Now, Rs. 1000 looks more convincing.VJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06104893127782704192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-10759332065344260592014-06-16T18:14:25.701+05:302014-06-16T18:14:25.701+05:30Addition of NR's solution to the above proof d...Addition of NR's solution to the above proof does not change it ;-)Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-10489723178921591712014-06-16T18:10:36.297+05:302014-06-16T18:10:36.297+05:30Sometimes we talk of maximum anagrams that may be ...Sometimes we talk of maximum anagrams that may be used in a typical 15x15 standard cryptic puzzle.<br />Here is some useful info from a UK setter of repute.<br />Visit and read relevant post.<br /><br />http://www.ukpuzzle.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=638&p=21632#p21632Chaturvasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00284780490945841507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-23991123786785284442014-06-16T18:09:31.675+05:302014-06-16T18:09:31.675+05:301) The lady had a duplicate note of 1000; she exch...1) The lady had a duplicate note of 1000; she exchanged it for a goods worth Rs 200 and Rs 800 original money. Thus, she has gained Rs 1,000 in the whole deal.<br />2) The neighbouring shopkeeper, suffered no loss and no profit as he gave the duplicate note back, and took original notes from the shopkeeper.<br />3) <i>Our shopkeeper suffered a loss of Rs 1,000</i>. <br />Initially, he had goods worth Rs 200, and 0 rupees with him. Then ,he gave those goods to the lady. He kept Rs 200 and gave Rs 800 to the lady.<br />Now, he has Rs 200 and no goods.<br />So, no loss no profit till now.<br />Now, neighbouring shopkeeper comes and takes back Rs 1,000 from him. So, he suffered a loss of Rs 1,000 only.<br /><br />He gave Rs 800 to lady and Rs 1,000 to shopkeeper. But, it is evident that this Rs 800 is not his own money. He took that from neighbouring shopkeeper. So, this cannot be included in the loss.Nadathur Rajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09617463765008509834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-17513080490541917462014-06-16T18:03:24.562+05:302014-06-16T18:03:24.562+05:30In Tamil there is a colourful proverb, which, tran...In Tamil there is a colourful proverb, which, translated, is: Why should we drag into our loincloth the garden lizard that crawls on the fence?Chaturvasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00284780490945841507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-43759677762432682752014-06-16T18:03:07.140+05:302014-06-16T18:03:07.140+05:30Extraordinary proof for Rs.1000:
Ranger's ans...Extraordinary proof for Rs.1000:<br /><br />Ranger's answer 1800<br />CGB (first answer) 1000<br />Richard via CGB 1200<br />CV N.A.<br />Total for 4= 4000<br />Average 1000, which is correct !<br /><br />See committees do work, you just need to know how to make them work!Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-85828056851073554872014-06-16T17:59:04.105+05:302014-06-16T17:59:04.105+05:30As they say in KannaDa, "Yaara appana yenu ga...As they say in KannaDa, "Yaara appana yenu ganTu hogutte" whimsically translated into English as "Whose father what knot goes?"Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2195377761774996603.post-82165152183867332002014-06-16T17:56:45.634+05:302014-06-16T17:56:45.634+05:301000
The transactions with the next door guy can ...1000<br /><br />The transactions with the next door guy can be ignored. He was given a (fake) note and gave 1000 and the transaction was reversed.<br />So, no profit or loss.<br /><br />The lady passed off a 1000 note=0 and got goods worth 200 + change 800, hence gain is 1000<br /><br />The shopkeeper gave goods of 200 +change 800 for a note worth 0. Hence, loss is 1000<br /><br />It is a zero sum game, as illustrated below, with each persons' profit or loss:<br />Next door shopkeeker Nil<br />Lady 1000+<br />Shopkeeper 12000-<br />Total Nil<br /><br />All other computations have fallacies in them. It reminds me of a chap who went to a shop and asked for a vest. After taking the vest and before paying for it, he wanted it changed to a pair of briefs. Taking the briefs he started walking out without paying. On being accosted by the shopkeeper about the price for the briefs, he said that he had got them in exchange for the vest. On being asked for the price of the vest, he said he had not taken it, so why was he to pay for it ?!Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18398234335975124266noreply@blogger.com