Satyen Nabar's Sun Spl analysed

Tuesday, 17 July 2018

No 12371, Tuesday 17 Jul 2018, Gridman


ACROSS
1   Boy bowled wildly without a bit of elegance resulting in big hit! (8) BODYBLOW {BOY+BOWLeD}*
5   Write about lawyer — model quibbler (6) PEDANT {PE{DA}N}{T}
10 Naive young lady is real, putting bin without cover at the back (7) INGENUE (+in)INGENU(-in)E
11 Binge and regret? Accurate, sadly (3,4) TOO TRUE {TOOT}{RUE}
12 Go, date comic in waning years (6) DOTAGE*
13 State tribal leader's with fellow in continent (8) TASMANIA {Tr...l}{AS{MAN}IA}
15 Stupid person from meaner dormitory (4) NERD [T]
16 Not odd. In point of fact, account disappeared after a passage of time (10) EVENTUALLY {EVEN}{acTUALLY}
18 They come to aid: cleaners go through upper case (10) SUCCOURERS {S{UC}COURERS}
20 Saint dissociates from agreeable petition (4) PLEA PLEAsant
23 Weapon is Spooner's chief triumph (8) CROSSBOW {(-b+cr)CROSS}{-cr+b)BOW}
24 Bird regularly spotted in EU country (6) BRUNEI {BiRd}{IN+EU}*
26 Once meter ran beyond a norm (7) EXTREME {EX}{METER*}
27 Call into question mischievous boy taking on everybody (7) IMPEACH {IMP}{EACH}
28 Gives up and idles awkwardly at day's end (6) YIELDS {daY}{IDLES*}
29 On stage performers — they are sources of energy (8) REACTORS {RE}{ACTORS}

DOWN
1   It takes interest in providing shelter to the public (8,7) BUILDING SOCIETY [CD]
2   Follow a celebrity actor's bright spot (3,4) DOG STAR {DOG}{STAR}
3   Kind boy's standard not beginning to show (6) BENIGN {BEN}{sIGN}
4   Old walker's short newspaper section (2-2) OP-ED {O}{PEDe...n}
6   More on us is hurled — it’s massive (8) ENORMOUS*
 Lad near-damaging gland (7) ADRENAL*
 Shiny head valets featured in old Hitchcock film (3,4,8) THE LADY VANISHES*
9   Small coaches — they will never hold water (9) STRAINERS {S}{TRAINERS}
14 Defeats some running under cover with captain having moved up (9) OVERCOMES {SOME}* under {(-c)OVER(+c)C}
17 Noticed: among leaderless relatives, there is something to be tied up (5,3) LOOSE END {bLOO{SEEN}D}
19 Indian thief let out a gleeful laugh (7) CHORTLE {CHOR}{LET*}
21 Yearn for a try from far back (4,3) LONG AGO {LONG}{A}{GO}
22 Subject matter about royal is warm (6) TROPIC {T{R}OPIC}
25 Starts with infinite fear to take (at last) a partner (4) WIFE {With}{In...e}{Fear}{takE}

GRID
Bhargav's Talepiece

The bouncer and the dancer - Part 90

So it was not a PLEA but a ploy!

Clement OVERCOMES the situation and the LOOSE END is tied.

THE LADY VANISHES with the NERD official who returns and EVENTUALLY YIELDS.

TOO TRUE. Such incidents do occur whether US or TASMANIA or elsewhere.

What happened next?

33 comments:

  1. Thank you Gridman. Except 1A I got all correct by 8.20AM. My best compliments.

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  2. 18a go through and 14d moved up, still to understand.

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    1. 18AC UC=upper case [per Chambers]
      14DN running is anagrind and cover with movement becomes OVERC. Felt it is ok.

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    2. 14DN I thought it should "moved down" instead of "moved up"

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    3. 18A) containment indicator = go through

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    4. KKR my doubt is go through, does it mean around.

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    5. Go through also means CONSUME. My understanding

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  3. 8D Had never heard of this movie. As a schoolboy I had seen Notorious, Spellbound, Rebecca and in college Psycho, Dial M for Murder and To Catch A Thief. Recently I saw a biopic "Hitchcock"

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    1. Its not a Hollywood production. And not a true Hitchcock movie, replacement direction.

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    2. Hitchcock is given credit as director to this movie, in the web pages I saw.
      Do you mean to say it is not his own movie?

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    3. The movie started production as the lost lady, produced by Edward black (British production). It didn't take off. Hitchcock had a contract with black but couldn't come up with a story line. So he directed the movie to fulfill the contract just before moving to Hollywood.

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    4. As a school boy I had also read Alfred Hitchcock and The Three Investigators..Srinidhi has a collection of these books. But now it is sans Alfred Hitchcock..only The Three Investigators and AH is replaced by a fictional movie director..perhaps due to copyright issues

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  4. Sorry about not posting the talepiece and image yesterday as I was driving to Coimbatore. Have updated it now.
    No picture as yet received for today

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  5. Reg. yesterdays' logo, is it mirror image of GOOGLE?

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    1. Oh. You are right.
      My IDEA was convoluted!!!

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    2. i place RELIANCE on Vasant's wishes

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    3. Jio hazaro saal reminds me of the song sung by Jumping Jack Jeetendra in the movie FARZ. Baar baar din...

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  6. Fell a sucker on SUCCOURERS ! rarely found in common usage; motoday !re familiar with SUCCOUR. Got an ADRENAL shot after getting the answer. Trust GRIDMAN to introduce unusual words. .BODYBLOW is indeed a big hit clue ! PED for a walker is also an upper-booster. Quite a simple PED- ANT crawler today . Thanks CV.

    No one seems to be ready to take me on pseudonyms? I even wrote an email to CV !

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    1. Raju: Almost all THC setters pseudonyms are open secret. Except NJ everyone has a pseudonym. It is not so in case of Sunday Special Setters. The regular setters pseudonyms are known to all..it is the rare setters who do not want to reveal their true identities..if they become regular setters they will reveal themselves.

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    2. raju is relentless with pseudonyms from 2011. "Compiling of crosswords, especially cryptic ones, being a creative art, why would anyone chose to remain anonymous? Is it a requirement of the newspapers? Authors, dramatists and poets the world over and over a period of many years have become renowned only because of their work and why this is not the case for crossword compilers?"

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    3. sree_sree : You are a man of my heart ! Do the setters not have a pride in their work, much less a desire for credit, if not a super-ego? Or is it sheer modesty and a wish to remain unrecognized ?

      Vasant: I humbly disagree with your statement. Many of them have near-similar pseudonyms like Buzzer, Mover, Spinner, Gridman aka Chaturvasi, not to mention multiple names like Skulldugger, or Oracle/Incognito , Phantom etc. just to name a few. If it is a tradition for the compilers to use pseudonyms, then who , why , where and when it all started ?

      Our famous blogger in our cryptic crossword world, Shuchi has named hers as Crossword Unclued using her own name and look how popular her blog is ! Had she remained anonymous or incognito, it would have been such a pity !

      I can understand authors who choose pseudonyms, but readily identifiable, may be for reasons other than anonymity and perhaps for tax purposes ?

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  7. ...for tax purposes?!
    I had a hearty laugh.
    What we earn per puzzle is less than peanuts when compared to what a paper such as The Times or The Guardian the UK composer. US puzzles fetch the constructors much more comared even with Britishers.
    Here in Chennai, I think most if not all pseudonyms are identifiable. None seems to be stubborn that their identity should not be revealed..
    Puzzle by Gridman is so interesting than Puzzle by C. G. Rishikesh.
    Raju, doesn't Gridman ring well in your ears?
    Isn't there a certain mystique about Gridman?
    And, my dear Raju, why do our actresses never use their real names? Give me an answer. Who is Namitha? Who is Nayanthara? Please investigate and let me know> Tap them on their shoulders (most likely to be bare) and ask them.

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    1. Mine is simple, who would want to call me katakam sreerama Chandra vara prasad every time. If its had to be any other better the one I like than random/multiple by user.

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    2. Is the poi namitha mukhesh or namitha pramod? DMK obviously cannot be used by anyone else and Mani too.

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  8. How does it matter whether I am Col Deepak Gopinath or Doppelganger when someone doesn't know both of them

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  9. All ye- respAondents are avoidng the core and crux of my questions. Your answers are touching the subject peripherally. I am asking about using pseudonyms in cryptic crossword puzzles by compilers. When , how, why and who started the process? If everyone on our blog knows who are the actual compilers behind the pseudonyms, why do they have to be anonymous ?

    I have heard about authors and other creative artists using pseudonyms to hide their income from the tax man. I appreciate that we Indian compilers get a pittance. Why should it be so ? Has art and creativity any ceiling for compensation, like the open-ended obscene north-bound figures enjoyed by film stars? if so, why not compilers pitch up their demand for compensation? Crosswords are a neglected segment of intellectual creativity as it is restricted to a few fanatics. Are we having responsibility to change this or not ?

    I request my good friend Col Deepak Gopinath to publish this tomorrow for the benefit of all those who may have missed this late- night. Thanks.

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    1. Raju:Why do you keeping harping on this topic. Wasn't CV Sir's reply enough?
      Doesn't a puzzle by Gridman/Buzzer/Arden et al excite you more than if the puzzles had been published as C.G. Rishikesh/Bhavan/Devnathan?
      There is a mystique & aura about pseudonyms. Period.

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    2. Come on vasant, we cryptics can't have unsolved puzzles. Do we? I am also curious as to know why and how? As NJ keeps claiming there were only numbers until she came along. So its relatively recent. Anyone of the setters of that time can share why they choose a pseudonym over real name unlike NJ. Is it because they were already setting under the pseudonym in other platforms and felt easy to correlate.

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    3. Prasad:Having set a few puzzles here and elsewhere, I can say that a pseudonym gives a high..a kick..it is also a tradition followed by most broadsheets in UK...Guardian, Independent, FT, Observer...The Times doesn't publish setter's name on weekdays...The Quick Cryptic of The Times does while The Sunday Times & Mephisto publish puzzles by the compiler's original names...
      A pseudonym is steeped in tradition and adds that much to the lore of cryptic puzzles.

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    4. Prasad: Your first question. Of course we solvers cant have any unsolved clues..we would go to great lengths to get the answers..
      The phenemenon of Pseudonyms in THC started with 2008 when it started publishing puzzles with setter's name..NJ was the only one who insisted on publishing without a pseudonym..the rest at the time were Gridman, Sankalak, M. Manna & Neyartha (all using pseudonyms).
      Why did they choose a pseudonym? It is for the setters to answer(But CV Sir has already answered).

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  10. The kolams that our women draw - esp. on the streets in the poorer parts of our cities in the morning and sometimes in the evening too, as I have observed - are so nice and creative. I suggest Raju starts a campaign that they must be signed with real names of the women who create them. My neighbour or his son draws kolam in front of the apartment when wife or mother is away (in all senses of the term).

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