Satyen Nabar's Sun Spl analysed

Saturday, 15 July 2023

No 13918, Saturday 15 Jul 2023, Afterdark

ACROSS
9   Loving a party at club (7) ADORING {A}{DO}{RING}
10 Delhi uncle's exam is stiffest (7) TAUTEST {TAU}{TEST} Haryanvi uncle would have been more appropriate.
11 Friend's state in a bother (7) PALAVER {PAL}{AVER}
12 Hungry local seen in company of a woman of ill-repute (7) TROLLOP {TRO{LocaL}OP}
13 Toy robot at the end supplied current to move (5,4) TEDDY BEAR {r..oT}{EDDY}{BEAR}
15 Warmed some latte, added powdered weed (5) LEWED {La..e}{WEED*}
16 Outside of Rio, wild carnivores are found in tunnels (7) CAVERNS CArNiVoRES*
19 More merciless to break off with engineer (7) SEVERER {SEVER}{ER}
20 French essentially wear dark material (5) DENIM {D{{frENch}IM}
21 The blaze I created for the Queen (9) ELIZABETH*
25 Lion is essentially encaged, loses its original nature (7) IONISES [T]
26 Cat coils and rests inside fold of headgear (4,3) FLAT CAP {FL{CAT*}AP}
28 Plant/herb husband removed after grooming initially takes time (7) GERBERA {hERB}<=>{Gr...g} and {ERA}
29 Unpleasant person, after last of drinks gains control (7) SCORNER {d...kS}{CORNER}

DOWN
1   Warrior clan's upset, upset on rank (6) RAJPUT {JAR<=}{PUT}
2   Out with a weapon and commanded (6) BOWLED {BOW}{LED}
3   Son joins capital and prays (4) KIEV Anno pending or is something wrong here? (Addendum - KIEV+SON = INVOKES [CA] - See comments)
4   Marketplaces from the past era rebuilt (6) AGORAE {AGO}{ERA*}
5   By the sound of it, you are in America with ranks (8) STATURES {STAT{(~you're)UR}ES}
6   Playing viola, a guy finally tours country (10) YUGOSLAVIA {VIOLA+A+GUY+t..rS}*
7   It's more cowardly to shout at landlord pointlessly (8) YELLOWER {YELL}{OWnER}
8   Simpler to regularly tour in 8-footer? (8) STUPIDER {S{ToUr}PIDER}
14 Railway employee at Vepery end is on a road leading to Chennai Central Station to collect letter waiving rent (10) YARDMASTER {v...rY}{A}{RD}{MAS}{letTER}
16 Cocktail of cold gin and small greenish apples (8) CODLINGS {COLD+GIN}*{S}
17 Wine merchants are against accepting incompetent interns (8) VINTNERS {V}{INTERNS*}
18 Almost made sense to order with botanical dealer (8) SEEDSMAN {MADe+SENSE}*
22 Penetrate rain festival to hide (6) INFEST [T]
23 Perhaps former prisoners, by end of June have cross-country unions, half of them (2-4) EX-CONS {junE}{X}{CONSorts} (Addendum - {junE}{XC}{uniONS} - See comments)
24 Hard work and energy earns rupees for believers (6) HOPERS {H}{OP}{E}{RS}
27 Prophet's morning's only with saint (4) AMOS {AM}{O}{S}

Reference List
Party = DO, Delhi uncle = TAU, Engineer = ER, Husband = H, Point = N, Chennai Central Station = MAS, Small = S, Against = V, Hard = H, Cross-country = XC,  Energy = E, Only = O, Saint = S

26 comments:

  1. 3d think CA indicator is missing.
    Son+kiev = Invokes

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    1. And the clue should have Invokes (not prays). Else it's an indirect CA.

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    3. Indirect anagrams are not acceptable. In a CA the Defintion need not be at the ends

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    4. I stand corrected...it appears this is an anagram without an anagram indicator. I agree this is not acceptable.

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  2. 7d pointlessly could refer to refer to deletion of N or E or W. Heartlessly would have removed that ambiguity and would have fit the surface reading of the clue as well.

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  3. 10A Isn't Taau uncle in Hindi, pan-India; Father's elder brother.

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    1. Its not pan-India. Technically not hindi.

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    2. I believe Tau is used informally in hindi (chacha and kaka are used formally)

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  4. I think "hungry" is a fair indicator for removing letters from the middle of a word.

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  5. To quote the setter Azed:
    A good cryptic clue contains three elements:
    1. a precise definition
    2. a fair subsidiary indication
    3. nothing else

    With this in mind, it is worth asking what the role of "at" is in 9A ("Loving a party at club" - ADORING). What is the role of "supplied" in 13A ("Toy robot at the end supplied current to move" - TEDDY BEAR; furthermore BEAR is a dubious synonym for MOVE)? What is the role of "with" in 5D (By the sound of it, you are in America with ranks - STATURES)?

    Some well-crafted clues:
    7A Hungry local seen in company of a woman of ill repute (TROLLOP) - could be a Dr. X clue
    26A Cat coils and rests inside fold of headgear (FLAT CAP)
    2D Out with a weapon and commanded (BOWLED)
    8D "8-footer?" for SPIDER was nice wordplay and had me stumped as I was thinking of LADDER

    PALAVER and SEEDSMAN were new words to me and nice to know. PALABRA is Spanish for WORD.

    LEWED for lukewarm is my AD obscurity for the day, as it is apparently a dated usage as a verb as per various dictionaries.

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    1. Looking forward to solving Everyman on Sunday and the next THC rotation, hopefully it will be the venerable Doc.

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    2. In sum, AWFUL cluing. I think I will skip Afterdark hereafter .

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    3. AWFUL clueung. Terrible Will skip Afterdark's puzzle

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  6. @Col Sir, I think the correct anno for 23D is as follows
    23 Perhaps former prisoners, by end of June have cross-country unions, half of them (2-4) EX-CONS {(-jun)E}{XC}{(-uni)ONS}, where XC = CROSS COUNTRY and ONS = half of unions.

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  7. I agree with you. But XC from cross country looks a little odd. Probably 'Ninety' would have been better? It may go with the surface also.

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    1. XC is X-country or cross-country in Oxford dictionary.

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    2. we often used this notation 'XC' for cross country pipeline in technical communications

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  8. Oh! I don't remember to have come across earlier.

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