ACROSS
7 Not new at university to get burnt out (4-2) USED-UP {USED}{UP}
8 Crack on epitaph's stone foundation (6) RIPRAP {RAP}<=>{RIP}
10 Case where say you may escape rule-breaking charge without consequences (4-4) SCOT-FREE {SCOuT}{F{R}EE}
11 Guide people reaching prominence (6) MENTOR {MEN}{TOR}
12 Sore, painful cervical wound (5) ULCER [T]
14 Token victory has queen adopting expression of pain (7) VOUCHER {V}{OUCH}{ER}
15 Flare up very loudly in folly, then head going for a spin (3,3,3,6) FLY OFF THE HANDLE {FF} in {FOLLY+THEN+HEAD}*
18 Pop drinks wine before sunrise (7) PREDAWN {P{RED}AWN}
19 Aerial salute for the Reverend according to pilot (3-2) FLY-BY {(-b+fl)FLY}{(-fl+b)BY}
20 Small light meal over, folding empty cloth bag (6) SACHET {S}{A{ClotH}ET<=}
21 Creep out when husband leaves hall? (4,4) EDGE AWAY Defintion by example
23 Flip side of British public houses (6) OBVERT {O{B}VERT}
24 Promising misery if switching sides (6) BRIGHT B(-l+r)RIGHT
DOWN
1 Joke's effective without introduction or prompt (8) PUNCTUAL {PUN}{aCTUAL}
2 Fresh every time (4) PERT {PER}{T}
3 Henry breaking down on turning a dictator (6) FUHRER {FU{H}R}{RE<=}
4 Indiscreet type, preposterous private doctor, entering bar ahead of hospital (3,5) BIG MOUTH{B{GI*}{MO}UT}{H} (Addendum - {B{GI<=}{MO}UT}{H} - See comments)
5 Knockout count, having hooked right with risky punch (10) TRENCHANCY {T{R}EN}{CHANCY}
6 Turmoil in northern Argentina or outskirts of Peru (6) UPROAR{AR<=}{OR}{PerU}<= Overall reversal indicator? (Addendum - {RA}{OR}{PerU}<= - See comments)
9 Hot day had even turned oppressive (5-6) HEAVY-HANDED {H}{DAY+HAD+EVEN}*
13 Squeaker's vocal, see impossible to keep silent (5,5) CLOSE SHAVE {VOCAL+SEE}* over {SH}
16 Uniform sample boasting English flannel (8) FLATTERY {FLAT}{T{E}RY}
17 Destroy at will, razing contents? Answer in short, yes! (3,5) LAY WASTE {AT+WilL+A+YES}* Semi&lit
18 Instruments of pain, so dreadful (6) PIANOS*
19 Pentagon possibly unleashing new weapon in bombardment (6) FIGURE {FI{GUn}RE}
22 Star going round a constellation once (4) ARGO [T]
GRID
7 Not new at university to get burnt out (4-2) USED-UP {USED}{UP}
8 Crack on epitaph's stone foundation (6) RIPRAP {RAP}<=>{RIP}
10 Case where say you may escape rule-breaking charge without consequences (4-4) SCOT-FREE {SCO
11 Guide people reaching prominence (6) MENTOR {MEN}{TOR}
12 Sore, painful cervical wound (5) ULCER [T]
14 Token victory has queen adopting expression of pain (7) VOUCHER {V}{OUCH}{ER}
15 Flare up very loudly in folly, then head going for a spin (3,3,3,6) FLY OFF THE HANDLE {FF} in {FOLLY+THEN+HEAD}*
18 Pop drinks wine before sunrise (7) PREDAWN {P{RED}AWN}
19 Aerial salute for the Reverend according to pilot (3-2) FLY-BY {(-b+fl)FLY}{(-fl+b)BY}
20 Small light meal over, folding empty cloth bag (6) SACHET {S}{A{C
21 Creep out when husband leaves hall? (4,4) EDGE AWAY Defintion by example
23 Flip side of British public houses (6) OBVERT {O{B}VERT}
24 Promising misery if switching sides (6) BRIGHT B(-l+r)RIGHT
DOWN
1 Joke's effective without introduction or prompt (8) PUNCTUAL {PUN}{
2 Fresh every time (4) PERT {PER}{T}
3 Henry breaking down on turning a dictator (6) FUHRER {FU{H}R}{RE<=}
4 Indiscreet type, preposterous private doctor, entering bar ahead of hospital (3,5) BIG MOUTH
5 Knockout count, having hooked right with risky punch (10) TRENCHANCY {T{R}EN}{CHANCY}
6 Turmoil in northern Argentina or outskirts of Peru (6) UPROAR
9 Hot day had even turned oppressive (5-6) HEAVY-HANDED {H}{DAY+HAD+EVEN}*
13 Squeaker's vocal, see impossible to keep silent (5,5) CLOSE SHAVE {VOCAL+SEE}* over {SH}
16 Uniform sample boasting English flannel (8) FLATTERY {FLAT}{T{E}RY}
17 Destroy at will, razing contents? Answer in short, yes! (3,5) LAY WASTE {AT+W
18 Instruments of pain, so dreadful (6) PIANOS*
19 Pentagon possibly unleashing new weapon in bombardment (6) FIGURE {FI{GU
22 Star going round a constellation once (4) ARGO [T]
GRID
In 6d 'Turmoil in northern Argentina or outskirts of Peru', if we take 'northern' as a rev ind in a Down clue, then does AR+OR+PU give UPROAR? Am I going wrong?
ReplyDelete+1;
DeleteHowever it gives UPRORA;
IMHO RA is used for Argentina;
I still feel it is confusing. Argentina is AR, that is definite.
DeleteRepublica Argentina in Spanish;
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina
Overall reversal. RA for Argentina. Ref Oxford or Chambers, ++
DeleteI took ar as it is the internet country code for Argentina.
DeleteWikipaedia shows the ISO 3166 Code for Argentina as AR
DeleteNot sure where this is leading. AR may be Argentina, but so is RA, where's the problem
DeleteNo problem Bhala, I was just mentioning what's given in Wikipedia
DeleteCool, just that the same thing may be expressed in different ways, and that Wiki also has RA. But anyway, I always look for dictionary support, that's the primary reference for most setters
DeleteRA is IVR, vehicle registration code. As per chambers.
DeleteAgreed as Wikipedia is not 100% reliable
DeleteRIPRAP is a new word for me. Thanks, xC.
ReplyDeleteA bit easier today! Thanks xChequer. :-)
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteFive clues troubled me for long.
4Dn Anno...Anind ind? Private = IG (Inspector General) Ok?
ReplyDeletePrivate=GI, preposterous anind.
DeleteThanks Prasad.
DeleteThat makes it an indirect anagram.
DeletePrasad, it becomes indirect anagram, I think
ReplyDeleteKKR, I said many times. I am still a student here so do not venture on the correctness/syntax. I Just try and get the mind of setter.
DeleteNo Prasad, you are no more a student.
DeleteIn fact, after referring to Chambers I found totally different meaning for the word Preposterous:
Literally inverted, having or putting the last first (rare)
So, this meaning can mean Private as GI inverted avoiding the indirect anagram view.
Re 4dn Indiscreet type, preposterous private doctor, entering bar ahead of hospital - BIG MOUTH
DeleteI think BIG is from preposterous, MO is from doctor, BUT is from BAR (very nice) and H is from hospital. 'ahead of' is pos ind. 'entering' is c/c ind 'indiscreet type' is a broad def for word reqd - so far so good. Then J flounder. I am not able to gel them.I am missing something
Preposterous as in opposite to normal. Thanks KKR.
Delete'preposterous' is usual crossie speak for reversal
DeleteWill someone give the annotation with symbols as we usually do?
DeleteRishi, setter's intention is:
DeleteB(GI<= MO)UT H
Does this clarify?
Thanks for your clarification, Bhala.
DeleteAt last, I see light.
My difficulty so far has been how private = GI.
I know GI = general issue, government issue, Joe, soldier
Till novw I was not able to equate private (soldier) = GI
I am not sure if a private soldier = GI.
From OED
DeleteGI2
noun
A private soldier in the US army.
‘she went off with a GI during the war’
I am a little surprised. Gi is regularly used for U.S. soldier, they are also called privtaes. I have come across this frequently in books and in CW's as well.
DeleteBut it is a different matter I could not make it out today.
6d outskirts as out+skirts. Out as anind for ar+or. Skirts for edges. Northern overall reversal!
ReplyDeletePrasad! Creative but you make me cringe, wouldn't want to write a clue like that
DeleteSo it should not be used or left to setter? For my understanding only, pls.
DeleteMy view as a setter is that your anno would not lead to a grammatical or logical solution. First of all, if 'out' is used as anagram indicator, it is not best practice to combine it with another word. Even if so used and accepted, it then has to be tagged with 'skirts of Peru' and not to the fodder preceding. Further in your anno, 'northern' would have no role to play, because with an anagram the positioning of fodder becomes irrelevant. Does this help?
DeleteThanks.
Deletecol.sir, RAP word could not get the definition. for RIP, the definition was awesome. the stone where the names can be written after a person death. w.r.to the stone the word RIP emerges but not foundation.. Please correct me if I am wrong. <=>
ReplyDeleteRap and crack both mean "to strike sharply"
Deletehttps://chambers.co.uk/search/?query=Rap&title=21st
well said. sree_sree. Thanks you so much.
DeleteExcellent repartee. Enjoyed the Blog as was the grid. Thanks to Col in particular and others as well. Chaturvasi sir's comments are similar to mine though not with such diction.
ReplyDeleteThough I appreciate the furious furore in the parleys on the grammar and syntax, the poor sledge-hammer broke and the hair survived !
ReplyDeleteI endorse the Col that exchequer has a unique style. In today’s crossie , Ifound the wordplay in 10 a & 16 band 18 d superb and unique. He has of course lowered the bar a bit or is it that I have raised mine ? I did the whole grid in twenty minutes ! Thanks Bhala.
ReplyDeleteYou certainly have raised yours!
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