Thursday, 2 September 2010

No 9937, Thursday 02 Sep 10, Gridman

Lot of girls around today plus symmetrically placed hidden anagrams 5A & 10A, 29A & 31A, 1D & 2D, 22D & 23D.


ACROSS
1   - Father beginning to understand catalogue appealing to people (8) - {POP}{U}{LIST}
5   - Pulse falling: ten ill (6) - LENTIL*
9   - Badly hurt minor is cruel (8) - {RUTH*}{LESS}
10 - Beam some signal in telepathy (6) - LINTEL [T]
12 - Capping a revolutionary? (4) - {A}{TOP}
13 - Unseeing friend takes eastern cul-de-sac (5,5) - {BLIND} {ALL{E}Y} Nice clue
15 - May bloomer evoke peculiar zeal within drivers (6) - {A{ZALE*}A}
17 - Bad mark on a Hindu belief (5) - {KARM*}{A}
20 - German river said to have smell (5) - ODOUR(~oder)
21 - Wine for woman and bishop at the end of party (6) - {SHE}{RR}{Y}
24 - Drag conker somehow to tourists' attraction in Chandigarh (4,6) - ROCK GARDEN*
27 - Island nation brings back condition, sir (4) - {FI<-}{JI} No indicator for Indian honorific
29 - What you may do with the thought sometimes (6) - PERISH [CD]
30 - Old man to find the total back in 1000 (8) - {GRAN{DDA<-}D} Nice one
31 - Character embellishment engineers recalled in rocking ship (6) - {S{ER<-}IPH*}
32 - Made a dash for the compound? Not exactly! (8) - HYPHENED [CD]
DOWN
1   - Left a student at the gate (6) - {PORT}{A}{L}
2   - Girl has incomplete part in surveillance (6) - {PAT}{ROLe}
3   - Military officer catches the Italian rhythm (4) - {L{IL}T}
4   - Fibre of girl coming back to catch leader of instigators (5) - {S{I}SAL<-}
6   - Girl, one taking part in reorganised race (5) - {ER{I}CA*}
7   - Expression of contempt really spewed out on departure of a learner having the charge of a place (8) - {TUT}{ELARYl*} New word for me
8   - Golly! Gal is prepared to fool around! (8) - LOLLYGAG* Another new word for me
11 - What a person on diet is careful about (6) - INTAKE [CD]
14 - Absolute ruler about to endlessly raze climbers (4) - {C}{eZAR}<-
16 - Maybe result obtained by polishing (6) - LUSTRE*
17 - Member of an Islamic people seen in Tumkur dormitory (4) - KURD [T] Tumkur District would have been better.
18 - Water-skiers hang on to these (8) - TOWROPES [CD]
19 - One who works for a spell? (8) - SORCERER [CD]
22 - Bleak return to study worthless material (6) - {MID<-}{DEN} Another new one
23 - Burrowed through lots and took care (6) - {MIN{D}ED} Didn't like this one
25 - What you might do while preparing for a long drive in the U.S.? (3,2) - GAS UP [CD]
26 - Tear off the cover of annual too soon (5) - yEARLY
28 - Mark of a ruler? (4) - INCH [CD] Hmm..... of or on ?

57 comments:

  1. Hi

    31A=29A*, 1D=2D*, 5A=10A*, 22D=23D*
    Also, the grid has rotational symmetry for a 90 degree turn, as against ‘usual‘ 180 degree symmetry, hence all these pairs of anagrams are at locations corresponding to each other. Gridman, you deserve an over-sized car !

    Liked the use of pulse in 5a for LENTIL*. INCH as mark of a ruler, GRAN(DDA<-)D, HYPHEN (as a dash)ED ! Great stuff, Gridman. A-ZALE*-A, AA could well have been Alcoholics Anon. instead of Auto Assn

    26d EARLY also appears as 22A in NIE: Not late but nearly lost a point (5)

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  2. A no doubt POPULIST offering by Gridman today, after ten RUTHLESS days of the CZAR NJ. I finished EARLY (sure to count for my KARMA). With MIDDEN and MINDED, LENTIL and LINTEL, PORTAL AND PATROL, I was able to notice a recognizable LILT, almost as if it were the ODOUR of SHERRY (the INTAKE of which one must reduce). I was at a BLIND ALLEY with HYPHEN and SERIPH, but my GRANDDAD, like a TUTELARY, saved my from my LOLLYGAG ATOP the ROCK GARDEN with his presents of AZALEA from FIJI and SISAL from KURDistan.

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  3. 28 - Mark of a ruler? (4) - INCH [CD] Hmm..... of or on ?

    I thought this was 'ANKH'

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  4. AVA, you caught my bug today. I put in Inch too.

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  5. Aash, nice job!!! I thought ERICA from KURDistan would have been better.

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  6. 28D was kinda tricky... The way clue was written, I was sure that it had something to do with rulers as in, kings.

    Again, like Colonel pointed out, JI appears without no indicator.

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  7. 17A: Buddhists believe in Karma too... So should there have been anything in the clue to suggest that it's "also a" Hindu belief?

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  8. AVA,

    Great work. You have done a Kishore on today's CW.


    22 - Bleak return to study worthless material (6) - {MID<-}{DEN}
    A midden is a dung-hill or refuse-heap. Our appreciations to Gridman for adding to our vocabulary. CV, please convey our commendations to the Gridman in you.

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  9. I don't think Ankh is correct as it stands for Symbol or key of life and not mark of the ruler see ANKH

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  10. Deepak
    "Tumkur district" is a good suggestion!
    If G settled for 'dormitory' he must be thinking that the person (answer-word, I don't want to mention!) was hiding overnight in a dormitory while planning to strike the next morning.

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  11. Talking of Tumkur, though the name of Bangalore has been changed to Bengalooru, The Hindu which prides itself on accuracy still uses Bangalore in all places - including place of publication and in news items.

    And what is surprising is that there has not been a single complaint against this. Imagine had this happened in Amchi Mumbai!

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  12. 27 - Island nation brings back condition, sir (4) - {FI<-}{JI} No indicator for Indian honorific

    Just for information, 'ji' finds a place in the latest OED as a suffix to denote respect.
    So I guess it is okay without any indicator for Indian honorific

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  13. I note that as of 9.45am there are only a dozen or so comments, adding further grounds to the hypothesis that NJ grid days engender higher levels of activity on this blog as frustrated people come to look for the answers!

    23 - Burrowed through lots and took care (6) - {MIN{D}ED} Didn't like this one

    What is the indication that lots=D? I understood afterwards that we are looking for the Roman numeral D, but at first it was a complete mystery.

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  14. Oh the absolute joy of Gridman, after wading through a fortnight of NJ! I put ANKH, but guess INCH is a better fit. By the way, in Yorkshire, where I originate, Midden is used generally to mean a big mess - many is the time my mother told me "Clean your bedroom - It's a complete midden!"

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  15. Good Morning all

    Somehow i had a feeling this is not gridman at his usual. i rechecked the setter name twice for nj or neyartha. lot of likewise words, lentil, lentel, perish, seriph, patrol, portal, midden and minded...what is this...rookies like me definitely had a tough time today.

    but enjoyed reading the comments. a new addition to kishore act by ava is interesting again.

    Good day

    Mathu

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  16. Hi Col!

    Yes been back a few months, but have had back to back friends and family visiting - so have had to surrender crosswording to ferrying my guests around various tourist sites. Been back doing the hindu crossword for 2 weeks (but NJ renders me speechless) Have got a busy couple of weeks (visiting my daughter who works as a publisher in Chennai, then on to Mysore, where I can actually be a tourist as is my first visit) then back to the UK. Still really enjoy the bog - well done, and greetings to all my fellow crossworders!

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  17. By the way - my daughter is also a blogger - here is a link to her site
    http://notoriousfemale.wordpress.com/

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  18. David,
    You could meet Chaturvasi at Chennai when you are there

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  19. I solved, 7 Down, as TITULARY.

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  20. Great - Hi Chaturvasi
    Will be there Fri/Sat (at some sort of craft fair on Saturday, where my daughter's employer, Tara Books, are exhibiting)
    Back in Chennai on Tuesday, getting sleeper train back to Kottayam in evening
    Cheers,
    Dave

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  21. David,

    Your daughter's candid comments on the Chennai autos (and their drivers) and her 'critique' of the Jazz musician who performed at the Madras Museum Theatre recently made interesting reading. She has rightly compared the structural design of the Theatre with Royal Albert Hall.

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  22. Phew!
    I tried... really did! But as I suspected, de-toxing off NJ, wasn't quick. After struggling on/off thro' the am, I finally came here with 9 clues unaccounted for.
    @Madhu: Thx for voicing my thots! :) I didn't feel too bad after reading the comments here. Hoping to do better tomorrow!

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  23. sorry.. Mathu (not Madhu) @ 10:46am

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  24. David

    I will be glad to meet you.

    Please send an email to cgrishi(at)hotmail(dot)com suggesting a suitable time/venue for our meeting.

    I will respond by giving details like my phone number.

    My real name is Rishikesh (Rishi for short). I know another Dave from my blog on the DT crossword here:

    http://bigdave44.com/

    You can preview me here:

    http://thccfamilies.blogspot.com/2010/08/planning-for-s-meet.html

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  25. 15 Ac: Can anyone enlighten me how AA has taken the place of drivers?

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  26. Automobile Association, hence my dig at 830

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  27. AA is Automobile Association

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  28. The Times today had two new words:

    POTENTILLA - genus of typical cinquefoils in the rose family. It contains about 500 species of annual, biennial and perennial herbs. Many are rare and endangered plant species.

    RETABLE - ornamental panel behind an altar and, in the more limited sense, the shelf behind an altar on which are placed the crucifix, candlesticks, and other liturgical objects.

    Altarpieces are of two main types:
    (i) the retable, which stands either on the back of the altar itself or on a pedestal behind it; and
    (ii) the reredos, which rises from ground level behind the altar.

    Many altars have both.

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  29. Thanks a lot Kishore and Suresh.Ji dalum ya nahin?

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  30. Further to REREDOS and RETABLE:

    PREDELLA is the term used for a subsidiary picture forming an appendage to a larger one, especially a small painting or series or paintings beneath an altarpiece.

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  31. LNS, Venkatesh, Kishore and others must be interested in this site - which I stumbled on while looking for something:

    http://www.irfca.org/docs/place-names.html

    I want a short place name in India that ends in -ly. Any suggestions? Shorter than Tinnevelly, Bareilly...

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  32. lovable mad, I thought today's puzzle was fine. And wouldn't say it was tough either.

    Well, there were some relatively new (not so common) words, but that's expected of Gridman. Also, there were a couple of Indian words thrown around, which is not unusual. The puzzle had a reasonable mix of anagrams, CD's, telescopic clues, homophones etc. A typical Gridman puzzle if you ask me.

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  33. CV

    Hooghly has 7 letters. Do you want a shorter one?

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  34. Solving a crossword after a break of about 3 weeks. Really enjoyed Gridman's offering with lots of nice clues. Only minor quibble being the connectivity of the grid, which rendered the SE and NW corners totally isolated. I guess, something's gotta give

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  35. HUBLY....

    Yea, I know.... the spelling... it's a proper noun for crying out loud.

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  36. Hi friends, just back from a long, outstation drive. Enjoyed reading the comments.

    Shuchi, thanks for the link to Sept 1 link which you provided yesterday. Sorry I could spot it only today. I did study W H Auden as part of English Major in college (in 20th century!), and after many years your reference brought back the pleasant memories of the lectures we heard from our erudite professors.

    AVA, you have beaten Kishore in his own game. Keep it up.

    CV, there may be many place-names in India, which end with the 'ly' sound. But currently the normal practice is to spell them with 'li'. E.g. Mohali.

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  37. Shuchi, pls read 'thanks for the link to Sept 1 which you provided....'

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  38. I said:

    31A=29A*, 1D=2D*, 5A=10A*, 22D=23D*

    How come no one objected ? No chemistry/logic aficionados here ? The correct formulae would be:

    31A*<=>29A*, 1D*<=>2D*, 5A*<=>10A*, 22D*<=>23D*

    since these are reversible actions and it's impossible to say which is cause and which is effect, so to say, i.e. 31A is anagram of 29A or 29A is anagram of 31A are both correct, so why treat one as a function of another and subservient or inferior to it; both are mutual functions of each other.

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  39. Re the comment on 'connectivity' of the grid.

    I really don't know what it is, though I have sometimes heard of some corners being cut off from the rest of the grid.

    The rule is, starting from any blank square on any side, you should be able to draw a line through blank squares to the opposite side. The grid meets with this requirement.

    Every other square in any slot is checked. (In other words, in no slot are there any two consecutive unchecked letters.)

    While in any four-letter slot two letters are checked, in all other slots of any length, I think, there are more checked letters than unchecked letters.

    What more 'connectivity' does a solver require? I could do with some light on the topic.

    Isn't the grid user-friendly?

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  40. CV 1646: You will have to wait till I retire. I plan to start a village in the hills called IDLY, where I plan to spend the rest of my life Idly eating Idli.

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  41. It will be an Idyllic place.

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  42. How does a kaduvu differ from an idli? Richard?

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  43. While you are at it, Richard, why don't you enlighten others about Sanna, KhoTTo and MooDo.

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  44. I thought it was a pretty friendly grid... Maybe Maddy feels there were not too many long words connecting the top and bottom half of the grid. On the downside (I mean directionally) no word longer than 8 letters.

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  45. VJ: Since the longest down is 8 letters but there are 2 10 letter across clues, my earlier observation that the grid has 90 degree symmetry is proved to be wrong, and hence withdrawn.

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  46. Kishore, your opening statement kinda had me confused. It made my head spin you know.... "rotational symmetry," "90 degree turn," "180 degree symmetry" and what not... I was goin' like "seriously, what's this guy on about!!!" and just moved on. LOL

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  47. HaHa, VJ: that's a good un, rotational symmetry made your head spin :-)

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  48. Hey, any chess enthusiasts here ? Long time since I played. Over the time, somehow, I and my son started playing Baroque or Ultima chess variant and loved it. Any one game for this sort of stuff?

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  49. Here is the link for it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_chess

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  50. Kishore
    I solve chess problems, that too only two-movers.
    Used to send PCs w. sols. to The Hindu problem solving tournament when it was run by S K Gurunathan and my name used to be in the admissible list published quarterly - though never on the top.

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  51. CV: Try Baroque, you will love it. The pieces are called pincer, withdrawer, longleaper, coordinator, immobiliser and imitator and have a different moving and attacking style compared to regular chess. Only getting a sparring partner is tough. Luckily, my son is crazy about it too.

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  52. CV: Just sent a cute problem to your yahoo id. Have fun.

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  53. Chess also reminds me of Mukul Sharma's Mindsport where we used to have PK4 and endgame.

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  54. Kishore, that's interesting... Had never heard of those variations. Would like to try 'em some time.

    I used to be a huge chess addict... well, that was a long time ago. Now I don't like the game all that much. In our school days we used to play it whenever we got a chance. Why, we even played during lectures. We used to carry a small magnetic board; one that we could easily hide without disturbing the pieces lol. We even used to get the newspaper (it had the moves) and replay the games played by pros and analyze them. I still remember liking game 10 of 1995 PCA championship played between Anand and Kasparov. The first 8 games ended in a draw and Anand took the lead by winning the 9th one. Kasparov came back strong to win the next game (Ruy Lopez opening). Wow, what a game it was!!! One of my all time favorites.

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  55. VJ: I am more of the Fischer Spassky era. Try Baroque, may be we can play, if perchance I land up in Chennai.

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