Saturday 1 March 2014

No 11021, Saturday 01 Mar 2014, Sunnet


I suppose only the parents will see this, those appearing will have no time to see it? In any case all the best from all of us as well.


ACROSS
1   A tight fitting garment to warm oneself reportedly (6) BASQUE (~bask)
4   L ink a petty officer, say, to a disbeliever (8) APOSTATE {A}{PO}{STATE}
10 L avoisier’s field test followed revolutionary methods including synthesis at first (9) CHEMISTRY {CHE}{M}{I}{S}{TRY}
11 T oo much of a French entitlement (5) (Addendum - UNDUE {UN}{DUE} - See comments)
12 H andily trounced initially in the middle of tricky play (5) APTLY {AP{T}LY*}
13 E dge near pit of sulphur (9) BRIMSTONE {BRIM}{STONE}
14 B ygone days of a man, a British conservative (7) HISTORY {HIS}{TORY}
16 E xperience dizziness of a dip (4) SWIM [DD]
19 S tale food at the beginning of the season kills (4) OFFS {OF}{F}{S} Anno pending (Addendum - {OFF}{S} - See comments)
21 T he islanders that you need to understand to solve this (7) (Addendum - ENGLISH [DD] - See comments)
24 F ast deer in reserve, without duck, on the other side of a waterhole (9) SPRINGBOK {SPRING}{BOoK}
25 O ddly almost the same incomplete course that’s studied in school (5) MATHS Anno pending (Addendum - {THe+SAMe}* - See comments)
26 R estlessness shown by leaders of European nations negotiating union incentives (5) ENNUI {E}{N}{N}{U}{I}
27 T hen Emma cooked some lovely cheese (9) EMMENTHAL {THEN+EMMA}*{Lovely} There's an additional 'H' in the spelling of the cheese. See comments
28 H alf the pretzels taken by old poet Eliot for the sake of appearances (8) PRETEXTS {PRETzels}{EX}{TS}
29 E lectrocuted quiet prince is in terrible daze (6) ZAPPED {ZA{P}{P}ED*}

DOWN
1   B achelor’s stash with a kilo added, results in pain (8) BACKACHE {BA}{C{K}ACHE}
2   O rdered tests that held Murugan’s weapon to be the slimmest (8) SVELTEST {S{VEL}TEST*}
3   A malgamation of an unknown entity at first (5) UNITY {UNIT}{Y}
5   R emedies in natural science (7) PHYSICS [DD]
6   D isallowing the start of Satyagraha at first leads to crushing… (9) (Addendum - SQUASHING {S}{QUASHING} - See comments)
7   E lectronic gate that is most certainly (3,3) AND NOR ? (Addendum - AND HOW {AND} {HOW} - See comments)
8   X enon found trapped in deformed tree in a historical city in England (6) EXETER {E{XE}TER*}
9   A tail, beside, is short & bristly (6) STUBBY {STUB}{BY}
15 M ilitary campaign’s objectionable (9) OFFENSIVE [DD]
17 I nherent ability to buy for a specialty store (4,4) (Addendum - GIFT SHOP {GIFT} {SHOP} - See comments)
18 N ibble lived around the edge of a silo and emitted sharp sounds (8) WHISTLED {WHI{S}T}{LED}
20 A national topic (7) SUBJECT [DD]
21 T undra resident from east almost glides near a hole (6) ESKIMO {E}{SKIMs}{O}
22 I n dreamland, although old British Prime Minister was upset (6) ASLEEP {AS}{LEEP<=}
23 O ldest alloy in Britain’s forging zone (6) BRONZE {BR}{ZONE*}
25 N estled among jamun, jacaranda is an Asiatic grass (5) MUNJA [T]

79 comments:

  1. Sorry for the incomplete CW. My laptop has crashed.

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    1. Is there any way I can help? I don't think I can edit your work. But I can post a fresh post in about 15 minutes...

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    2. Attempting recovery. The incomplete ones can be posted in the comments section

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    3. Uploading of cartoon sent to you will have to wait till recovery.

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  2. 27 T hen Emma cooked some lovely cheese (9) EMMENTHAL {THEN+EMMA}*{Lovely} There's an additional 'H' in the spelling of the cheese.

    Chambers has this spelling too under Emmental

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    1. We have 'EMMENTHAL' too in other dictionary. i use.

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  3. 25 O ddly almost the same incomplete course that’s studied in school (5) MA{TH}S*

    (TH(-e) + SAM(-e))*

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  4. 26A ENNUI - This was easy. But I always thought it meant boredom / monotony.

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    1. you are right. I don't think restlessness is very apt.

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    2. He had no option due to the Clue Acrostic. Try finding a suitable synonym for ENNUI starting with R

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    3. Exam boredom can lead to restless, ennui and backache ...

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  5. 11A UN DUE
    21A ENGLISH 2

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  6. 6D S QUASHING
    17D GIFT SHOP

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  7. Completed using my wife's laptop. Now going back upstairs to check the laptop. I hope it's only a temporary phase.

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    1. Completed using my wife's laptop. ?! He, he, he!

      Wishing your laptop speedy recovery.

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    2. She says her bones almost got crushed !!

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    3. Anna tummy !

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    4. :-) took a while to understand, but then had a good laugh.

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    5. Orthography on orthopaedics...

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    6. You must have boned up on the words starting with o, including the big O ...

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  8. 7 E lectronic gate that is most certainly (3,3) AND NOR ?
    I put this down as AND HOW

    AND: Electronic gate
    HOW: that is?

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    1. and how Informal

      Most certainly; you bet: She's a good dancer, and how!

      How = That

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    2. Howzatt? How is that!

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  9. Sunnet, congos on a timely pangram !

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  10. 19 S tale food at the beginning of the season kills (4) {OFF}{S}

    OFF: (of food or drink) having gone bad, sour, etc (Freedict)

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    1. I was thinking about the anno for this but I was not getting any satisfactory result.

      'Off' in the sense of food having gone bad, is an adj. So, we can't get it from 'stale food'. I am yet to find support for 'off' as a noun meaning 'stale food'.

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    2. 'off' as an item of food that has gone off could be a noun. But I agree it is a stretch. Like may be 'write off' in accounting parlance.

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    3. Sorry, 'off' is not a noun for it to mean 'stale food'.

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    4. Jokingly we used to literally translate UPPUMA OOSI POCHU. SALT FLOUR NEEDLE GONE.

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    5. The usage known for this joke is : SONWHO TEMPLE SALT FLOUR NEEDLE GONE

      பிள்ளையாà®°் கோயில் உப்புà®®ா ஊசிப்போச்சு

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  11. If my laptop does not recover there will be no Sunday Special tomorrow as the stock that I have, which happens to be one only, is in there

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    1. You have all our prayers for a quick recovery.

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  12. 2D- Is it ok to use ' vel ' ( a Tamil word)? - yes, I read the link. I was trying to find a suitable English word that would fit.

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    1. All is vel that ends well

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    2. I initially thought Murugan's weapong to be 'gun' from 'Quick gun murugun'. Did not latch on to the 'vel' part. As expected our "quick gun murugun" came back with his pun doubly quick!

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    3. Oops! "weapong' did not end 'vel'.

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    4. Raghu, I think the fact that the Dalai Lama said that he played very good 'ping pong' when he was young and had even defeated Zhou en Lai must have been weighing on your mind when you typed weapong.

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    5. You might also be a 'vely' good pingpong player, because the returns come fast.

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    6. I might sometimes paddle the old stuff once again ...

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  13. Congrats Sunnet for the novel acrostic 'panagrammmatic' theme.

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  14. 18 N ibble lived around the edge of a silo and emitted sharp sounds (8) WHISTLED {WHI{S}T}{LED}

    What's Nibble?

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    1. Whit = bit, piece etc
      Nibble = nip, titbit

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    2. I got the meaning but am unable to understand how it can emit sounds.

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    3. Nibble only gives whit. It is not connected with sound, which is part of def. But I have a doubt where 'led' comes from? Is it from emitted? Then only 'sharp sounds' becomes def. which will give whistles.

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    4. LED is from lived. He led a simple life or he lived a simple life. You cannot isolate Whit saying its not part of def. I cannot understand how 'nibble' 'lived' & produced sounds

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    5. Nibble can be name of a person also for surface?

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    6. That's what I thought too but felt that's a stretch. But proper names like the English have can be anything: Root, Marsh, Hill, Sidebottom, Siddle etc. Considering this I think the clue is plausible.

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    7. There is a variety of fish called Nibble fish. These are also called doctor fish, as they are used in some spas for cleaning bathers and in treatment of some skin conditions.

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    8. 'Fishing' all around to know what's 'Nibble'!

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    9. Try it in troubled waters

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  15. Re 'beginning of the season' for S, purists don't accept the intrusive 'the'.
    Recently a UK setter used 'end of the day' for Y but a commenter did not approve of it.
    Can some latitude be allowed so long as the sense of what the clue-writer is saying is understood?
    Should too intense nit-picking be avoided?

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    1. I definitely don't favour use of 'the' and 'a' in clues unless absolutely essential. "Understood" can be mis"understood" by solvers.
      I'm also not sure whether 'some' can be used to denote the first letter of a word, like the clue with EMMENTHA + L(ovely).

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    2. I agree that too intense nit-picking should be avoided. I feel 'beginning of the season' and end of the day' are acceptable

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    3. 'some' indicates more than one and I got confused there before looking at the blog. One always gets a doubt if we had gone wrong somewhere.

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  16. 'end of day' goes well by itself, but it may be misinterpreted to mean 'eod' as is being used nowadays.

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  17. Thanks to Arden we will have a special tomorrow. My laptop has been admitted in hospital hoping for a quick recovery!!

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  18. When I was a schoolboy, we children in the family used to sit together with elders in the family for the evening meal. On those rare occasions if the rasam had become stale (for some such reason as a bad tomato that was part of the ingredients in the morning) we would mumble to each other an expression in Kannada. Translated into English, it would mean 'The rasam has gone to the station'. By station, we meant the railway station, of course.

    I am sure different families may have different slangy expressions.

    In those days we had respect for elders. The rasam would have been prepared by one of the numerous ladies - we had elders sitting along with us. So no brash expressions. No complaints mouthed loudly.

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    1. Aa kaalavondittu, divya taanaagittu.. so runs a Kannada poem.
      (The age that was, so divine indeed...)

      Jaane kahan gaye woh din...

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    2. The euphemism for food that has gone off, in Mangalore Konkani, is "ulaita" literally translating to 'has started talking'

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    3. Richard @ 4:00 :

      Koi lauta de mere beete huye din...

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    4. Yes, Balu. I am also reminded of Jagjit and Chitra Singh's ghazal:

      Yeh daulat bhi le lo, yeh shoharat bhi le lo, bhale chheen le mujhse meri jawani, magar mujhko lauta do bachpan ka sawan, woh kaagaz ki kashti, woh baarish ka paani...

      "Take away my wealth and fame; You may even take my youth; But please return the monsoon of my childhood, that boat made of paper, and (that fun in) the rain"

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    5. Thanks Richard for the beautiful ghazal. It reminds me of another song :

      bachpan ke din bhi kya din the, udethe phirthe thitheli banke.... by Geeta Dutt and Asha Bhonsle

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  19. "Mais ou sont les neiges d'antan?" (French)

    (Where are the snows of yesteryear?)

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  20. CV's description takes me back to those days when children were made to sit around and fed by one of the elders- mixed food in the palm of each one's hand. One had to wait for one's turn, the duration depending upon the number of children in the group. Though I was a lone child at home (my elder brothers were quite elder to me) I used to be part of a group of my cousins when I used to visit my uncle's place during vacation. I still cherish those moments.Like Richard says, those were the days...

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  21. What though the radiance which was once bright
    Be now forever taken from my sight?
    Though nothing can bring back the hour
    Of splendour in the grass, or glory in the flower,
    We will grieve not, rather find
    Strength in what remains behind.

    - From a Wordsworth poem remembered from my college days.

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  22. Further to my post 7:17 pm for Balu, click and listen:

    Jagjit Singh Live

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    1. Enjoyed the ghazal. Ref my post @ 7:44 pm just below yours @ 7:17 pm.

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    2. Thanks, I like that one too.

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