Saturday, 1 March 2014

No 11021, Saturday 01 Mar 2014, Sunnet


I suppose only the parents will see this, those appearing will have no time to see it? In any case all the best from all of us as well.


ACROSS
1   A tight fitting garment to warm oneself reportedly (6) BASQUE (~bask)
4   L ink a petty officer, say, to a disbeliever (8) APOSTATE {A}{PO}{STATE}
10 L avoisier’s field test followed revolutionary methods including synthesis at first (9) CHEMISTRY {CHE}{M}{I}{S}{TRY}
11 T oo much of a French entitlement (5) (Addendum - UNDUE {UN}{DUE} - See comments)
12 H andily trounced initially in the middle of tricky play (5) APTLY {AP{T}LY*}
13 E dge near pit of sulphur (9) BRIMSTONE {BRIM}{STONE}
14 B ygone days of a man, a British conservative (7) HISTORY {HIS}{TORY}
16 E xperience dizziness of a dip (4) SWIM [DD]
19 S tale food at the beginning of the season kills (4) OFFS {OF}{F}{S} Anno pending (Addendum - {OFF}{S} - See comments)
21 T he islanders that you need to understand to solve this (7) (Addendum - ENGLISH [DD] - See comments)
24 F ast deer in reserve, without duck, on the other side of a waterhole (9) SPRINGBOK {SPRING}{BOoK}
25 O ddly almost the same incomplete course that’s studied in school (5) MATHS Anno pending (Addendum - {THe+SAMe}* - See comments)
26 R estlessness shown by leaders of European nations negotiating union incentives (5) ENNUI {E}{N}{N}{U}{I}
27 T hen Emma cooked some lovely cheese (9) EMMENTHAL {THEN+EMMA}*{Lovely} There's an additional 'H' in the spelling of the cheese. See comments
28 H alf the pretzels taken by old poet Eliot for the sake of appearances (8) PRETEXTS {PRETzels}{EX}{TS}
29 E lectrocuted quiet prince is in terrible daze (6) ZAPPED {ZA{P}{P}ED*}

DOWN
1   B achelor’s stash with a kilo added, results in pain (8) BACKACHE {BA}{C{K}ACHE}
2   O rdered tests that held Murugan’s weapon to be the slimmest (8) SVELTEST {S{VEL}TEST*}
3   A malgamation of an unknown entity at first (5) UNITY {UNIT}{Y}
5   R emedies in natural science (7) PHYSICS [DD]
6   D isallowing the start of Satyagraha at first leads to crushing… (9) (Addendum - SQUASHING {S}{QUASHING} - See comments)
7   E lectronic gate that is most certainly (3,3) AND NOR ? (Addendum - AND HOW {AND} {HOW} - See comments)
8   X enon found trapped in deformed tree in a historical city in England (6) EXETER {E{XE}TER*}
9   A tail, beside, is short & bristly (6) STUBBY {STUB}{BY}
15 M ilitary campaign’s objectionable (9) OFFENSIVE [DD]
17 I nherent ability to buy for a specialty store (4,4) (Addendum - GIFT SHOP {GIFT} {SHOP} - See comments)
18 N ibble lived around the edge of a silo and emitted sharp sounds (8) WHISTLED {WHI{S}T}{LED}
20 A national topic (7) SUBJECT [DD]
21 T undra resident from east almost glides near a hole (6) ESKIMO {E}{SKIMs}{O}
22 I n dreamland, although old British Prime Minister was upset (6) ASLEEP {AS}{LEEP<=}
23 O ldest alloy in Britain’s forging zone (6) BRONZE {BR}{ZONE*}
25 N estled among jamun, jacaranda is an Asiatic grass (5) MUNJA [T]

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79 comments:

  1. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 08:34

    Sorry for the incomplete CW. My laptop has crashed.

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    1. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:36

      Is there any way I can help? I don't think I can edit your work. But I can post a fresh post in about 15 minutes...

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    2. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 08:38

      Attempting recovery. The incomplete ones can be posted in the comments section

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    3. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:43

      Uploading of cartoon sent to you will have to wait till recovery.

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  2. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:37

    27 T hen Emma cooked some lovely cheese (9) EMMENTHAL {THEN+EMMA}*{Lovely} There's an additional 'H' in the spelling of the cheese.

    Chambers has this spelling too under Emmental

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    1. Unknown1 March 2014 at 13:34

      We have 'EMMENTHAL' too in other dictionary. i use.

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  3. SandhyaP1 March 2014 at 08:37

    25 O ddly almost the same incomplete course that’s studied in school (5) MA{TH}S*

    (TH(-e) + SAM(-e))*

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  4. Richard1 March 2014 at 08:38

    26A ENNUI - This was easy. But I always thought it meant boredom / monotony.

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    1. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 09:06

      you are right. I don't think restlessness is very apt.

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    2. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 09:13

      He had no option due to the Clue Acrostic. Try finding a suitable synonym for ENNUI starting with R

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    3. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:15

      Exam boredom can lead to restless, ennui and backache ...

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  5. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:40

    11A UN DUE
    21A ENGLISH 2

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  6. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:41

    6D S QUASHING
    17D GIFT SHOP

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  7. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 08:50

    Completed using my wife's laptop. Now going back upstairs to check the laptop. I hope it's only a temporary phase.

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    1. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:52

      Completed using my wife's laptop. ?! He, he, he!

      Wishing your laptop speedy recovery.

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    2. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 09:03

      She says her bones almost got crushed !!

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    3. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:04

      Anna tummy !

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    4. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 09:07

      :-) took a while to understand, but then had a good laugh.

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    5. Richard1 March 2014 at 09:42

      Orthography on orthopaedics...

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    6. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:47

      You must have boned up on the words starting with o, including the big O ...

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  8. SandhyaP1 March 2014 at 08:52

    7 E lectronic gate that is most certainly (3,3) AND NOR ?
    I put this down as AND HOW

    AND: Electronic gate
    HOW: that is?

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    1. VMA Nair1 March 2014 at 09:21

      and how Informal

      Most certainly; you bet: She's a good dancer, and how!

      How = That

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    2. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:29

      Howzatt? How is that!

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    3. VMA Nair1 March 2014 at 09:30

      Lol

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  9. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 08:55

    Sunnet, congos on a timely pangram !

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  10. SandhyaP1 March 2014 at 09:00

    19 S tale food at the beginning of the season kills (4) {OFF}{S}

    OFF: (of food or drink) having gone bad, sour, etc (Freedict)

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    1. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 09:07

      I was thinking about the anno for this but I was not getting any satisfactory result.

      'Off' in the sense of food having gone bad, is an adj. So, we can't get it from 'stale food'. I am yet to find support for 'off' as a noun meaning 'stale food'.

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    2. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 09:15

      'off' as an item of food that has gone off could be a noun. But I agree it is a stretch. Like may be 'write off' in accounting parlance.

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    3. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 10:23

      Sorry, 'off' is not a noun for it to mean 'stale food'.

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    4. Unknown1 March 2014 at 13:45

      Jokingly we used to literally translate UPPUMA OOSI POCHU. SALT FLOUR NEEDLE GONE.

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    5. D.Srinivasan1 March 2014 at 20:22

      The usage known for this joke is : SONWHO TEMPLE SALT FLOUR NEEDLE GONE

      பிள்ளையாà®°் கோயில் உப்புà®®ா ஊசிப்போச்சு

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  11. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 09:05

    If my laptop does not recover there will be no Sunday Special tomorrow as the stock that I have, which happens to be one only, is in there

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    1. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 09:09

      You have all our prayers for a quick recovery.

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  12. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 09:21

    2D- Is it ok to use ' vel ' ( a Tamil word)? - yes, I read the link. I was trying to find a suitable English word that would fit.

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    1. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:30

      All is vel that ends well

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    2. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 09:38

      I initially thought Murugan's weapong to be 'gun' from 'Quick gun murugun'. Did not latch on to the 'vel' part. As expected our "quick gun murugun" came back with his pun doubly quick!

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    3. Richard1 March 2014 at 09:39

      Vel-come remark...

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    4. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 09:39

      Oops! "weapong' did not end 'vel'.

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    5. Richard1 March 2014 at 09:40

      My 9:39 for K's 9:30

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    6. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 09:46

      Raghu, I think the fact that the Dalai Lama said that he played very good 'ping pong' when he was young and had even defeated Zhou en Lai must have been weighing on your mind when you typed weapong.

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    7. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 09:54

      You might also be a 'vely' good pingpong player, because the returns come fast.

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    8. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 10:29

      I might sometimes paddle the old stuff once again ...

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  13. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 09:42

    Congrats Sunnet for the novel acrostic 'panagrammmatic' theme.

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  14. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 09:49

    18 N ibble lived around the edge of a silo and emitted sharp sounds (8) WHISTLED {WHI{S}T}{LED}

    What's Nibble?

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    1. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 10:16

      Whit = bit, piece etc
      Nibble = nip, titbit

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    2. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 10:44

      I got the meaning but am unable to understand how it can emit sounds.

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    3. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 11:41

      Nibble only gives whit. It is not connected with sound, which is part of def. But I have a doubt where 'led' comes from? Is it from emitted? Then only 'sharp sounds' becomes def. which will give whistles.

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    4. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 11:49

      LED is from lived. He led a simple life or he lived a simple life. You cannot isolate Whit saying its not part of def. I cannot understand how 'nibble' 'lived' & produced sounds

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    5. VMA Nair1 March 2014 at 11:56

      Nibble can be name of a person also for surface?

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    6. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 12:13

      That's what I thought too but felt that's a stretch. But proper names like the English have can be anything: Root, Marsh, Hill, Sidebottom, Siddle etc. Considering this I think the clue is plausible.

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    7. Nadathur Rajan1 March 2014 at 12:33

      There is a variety of fish called Nibble fish. These are also called doctor fish, as they are used in some spas for cleaning bathers and in treatment of some skin conditions.

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    8. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 13:14

      'Fishing' all around to know what's 'Nibble'!

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    9. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 14:23

      Try it in troubled waters

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  15. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 09:54

    Re 'beginning of the season' for S, purists don't accept the intrusive 'the'.
    Recently a UK setter used 'end of the day' for Y but a commenter did not approve of it.
    Can some latitude be allowed so long as the sense of what the clue-writer is saying is understood?
    Should too intense nit-picking be avoided?

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    1. Raghunath1 March 2014 at 10:06

      I definitely don't favour use of 'the' and 'a' in clues unless absolutely essential. "Understood" can be mis"understood" by solvers.
      I'm also not sure whether 'some' can be used to denote the first letter of a word, like the clue with EMMENTHA + L(ovely).

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    2. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 10:18

      I agree that too intense nit-picking should be avoided. I feel 'beginning of the season' and end of the day' are acceptable

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    3. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 11:24

      'some' indicates more than one and I got confused there before looking at the blog. One always gets a doubt if we had gone wrong somewhere.

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  16. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 11:23

    'end of day' goes well by itself, but it may be misinterpreted to mean 'eod' as is being used nowadays.

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  17. Col_Gopinath1 March 2014 at 14:26

    Thanks to Arden we will have a special tomorrow. My laptop has been admitted in hospital hoping for a quick recovery!!

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  18. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 15:49

    When I was a schoolboy, we children in the family used to sit together with elders in the family for the evening meal. On those rare occasions if the rasam had become stale (for some such reason as a bad tomato that was part of the ingredients in the morning) we would mumble to each other an expression in Kannada. Translated into English, it would mean 'The rasam has gone to the station'. By station, we meant the railway station, of course.

    I am sure different families may have different slangy expressions.

    In those days we had respect for elders. The rasam would have been prepared by one of the numerous ladies - we had elders sitting along with us. So no brash expressions. No complaints mouthed loudly.

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    1. Richard1 March 2014 at 16:00

      Aa kaalavondittu, divya taanaagittu.. so runs a Kannada poem.
      (The age that was, so divine indeed...)

      Jaane kahan gaye woh din...

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    2. Anonymous1 March 2014 at 16:22

      The euphemism for food that has gone off, in Mangalore Konkani, is "ulaita" literally translating to 'has started talking'

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    3. Mukundala Balasubramanyam1 March 2014 at 18:52

      Richard @ 4:00 :

      Koi lauta de mere beete huye din...

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    4. Richard1 March 2014 at 19:17

      Yes, Balu. I am also reminded of Jagjit and Chitra Singh's ghazal:

      Yeh daulat bhi le lo, yeh shoharat bhi le lo, bhale chheen le mujhse meri jawani, magar mujhko lauta do bachpan ka sawan, woh kaagaz ki kashti, woh baarish ka paani...

      "Take away my wealth and fame; You may even take my youth; But please return the monsoon of my childhood, that boat made of paper, and (that fun in) the rain"

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    5. Mukundala Balasubramanyam1 March 2014 at 19:44

      Thanks Richard for the beautiful ghazal. It reminds me of another song :

      bachpan ke din bhi kya din the, udethe phirthe thitheli banke.... by Geeta Dutt and Asha Bhonsle

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  19. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 16:10

    "Mais ou sont les neiges d'antan?" (French)

    (Where are the snows of yesteryear?)

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  20. Padmanabhan1 March 2014 at 16:13

    CV's description takes me back to those days when children were made to sit around and fed by one of the elders- mixed food in the palm of each one's hand. One had to wait for one's turn, the duration depending upon the number of children in the group. Though I was a lone child at home (my elder brothers were quite elder to me) I used to be part of a group of my cousins when I used to visit my uncle's place during vacation. I still cherish those moments.Like Richard says, those were the days...

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  21. Chaturvasi1 March 2014 at 16:15

    What though the radiance which was once bright
    Be now forever taken from my sight?
    Though nothing can bring back the hour
    Of splendour in the grass, or glory in the flower,
    We will grieve not, rather find
    Strength in what remains behind.

    - From a Wordsworth poem remembered from my college days.

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  22. Richard1 March 2014 at 19:25

    Further to my post 7:17 pm for Balu, click and listen:

    Jagjit Singh Live

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    1. Mukundala Balasubramanyam1 March 2014 at 19:54

      Enjoyed the ghazal. Ref my post @ 7:44 pm just below yours @ 7:17 pm.

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    2. Richard1 March 2014 at 20:02

      Thanks, I like that one too.

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