Thursday 4 March 2010

No 9781, Thursday 04 Mar 10, Nita Jaggi

What a relief, It's BYE-BYE to NJ for 21 days.
ACROSS
1 - Keeps up with the games (7) - MATCHES [DD]
5 - It may be released if not attached (6) - STRING [CD]
10 - Waterline on the shoe (8) - PLIMSOLL [DD]

11 - Kind of tyre fixed on the railroad without the round ring (6) - RADIAL(-r-o)*
13 - Not difficult to finally make one's yard (4) - {E}{A'S}{Y}
14 - Home where one is born (10) - BIRTHPLACE [E]
16 - Result of a shock wave (6) - RIPPLE [CD]
18 - Potential limit in a metropolis (8) - {CAP}{A}{CITY}
21 - Family of four immersed in a discourse(8) - RELAT{IV}E
22 - Officer will regularly rinse a part of an eye (6) - {CO}{R}{N}{E}{A}
25 - Officer is back in a nasty way following the cheat perpetually (10) - {CON}{STAN{TL<-}Y*} )
27 - Net laid for the rat at last is as usual set back (4) - {T}{RAP<-} )
30 - Cut-off the flower as the thing is on a plant (6) - {ROS(-e)}{IT}{A}

31 - Snack is ready in the borders of Luxembourg for Papa to eat (3,5) - {GO}{L G}{APPA*}

32 - Caught out of place dangerously following the way is essential (6) - {ST}{APLE(-c)*}
33 - Mobsters in the vehicles seized the lawyer's money (7) - VAN{DA}{L}S
DOWN
2 - Perhaps raise the sign (5) - ARIES*
3 - Accountant finally has to heartily check the lawsuit (4) - {CA}{S}{E}
4 - Point in the chlorine gas in the pastry (6) - {E}{CL}{AIR}
6 - Vagabond goes for a walk (5) - TRAMP [DD]
7 - Intimation to distribute out the new artificial jewellery (9) - IMITATION(n)*
8 - Largely renovated display room (7) - GALLERY*
9 - Show up for a performance in the beginning at the gym on arrival (6) - {A}{P}{PE}{AR}
12 - Fasten the tie (5) - STRAP [DD]
15 - Regular apartment (4) - FLAT [DD] Most irregular regular for NJ!!
17 - Spiny aloe uprooted in the islands (9) - POLYNESIA*
19 - A sign on the river (4) - {A}{V}{ON}
20 - Kitchen appliances used for baking (5) - OVENS [E]
21 - They are made in order to be broken (7) - RECORDS [CD]
23 - What players shout out in protest on-field (6) - APPEAL [CD]
24 - Measure even the doormat in front of the caves (6) - {ELL}{O}{R}{A}

26 - Initially try out the apparels left all-out (5) - {T}{O}{T}{A}{L}
28 - Drive back the car at last, Pele designed (5) - {R}{EPEL*}
29 - Old people are involved in the tragedy (4) - AGED [T]




GRID

39 comments:

  1. Hi everyone

    Some good clues and anagrams today. A nice way to sign off the 'stretch'. (Any pun found is purely coincidental.)

    Could solve the grid in full within a fairly reasonable time-frame.

    21A - 'Member of family of four immersed....' would have been more appropriate. Besides, 'discourse' is a noun while 'relate' is a verb.

    31A - I am sure there will be a few comments on this. Somehow, I could guess GOL GAPPA at once with the help of L,G and PAPA. It was a familiar word for me, but never knew it was just another name in vogue in northern India for Pani Puri, which I have been savouring for ages. I am told it is known as Bataashaa or Gup Chup in some other states and Phuchka in Bengali. Mouth-watering !

    23D - Do players shout 'Howzat' in protest against or being convinced of a situation ? Interestingly, an online dictionary gives the etymology: "used in cricket when questioning an umpire's call". With the present-day ICC rules in place, anyone questioning an umpire's decision could be fined or barred from a couple of matches !

    Over the past few days, we have come across instances of unnecessary hyphens in verb and adverb clauses in the clues, like tip-off, in-flight and cut-off. They are suitable only in noun and adjective forms like 'an informer's tip-off', 'in-flight magazine' and 'cut-off date'. I won't be surprised if someone says we run the risk of ruining our English if we keep solving clues of this kind.

    Got 26A and 30D by sheer guesswork, not being sure of annos.

    By the way, welcome Gridman !


    Richard

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  2. 21d - in what way it is a cryptic clue?
    anno for appear?

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  3. @vck,
    21D is a CD as shown.
    The anno for APPEAR is given in the main post

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  4. Richard

    I always love to read your language notes.

    I didn't solve this xwd but came here to palaver with friends.

    I too have only heard the term gol gappa without really knowing what this dish was actually.

    My wife came into the room just as I was looking at the photo. Which I couldn't really make out. The things looked like tender coconuts!

    I asked her what gol gappa was and she, a gourmand that she is, immediately went into raptures. Born and raised in Calcutta, she is often heard to use the term phuchka.

    Let me put in a term that the Col often uses but missed here: Yum...

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  5. Col ji-

    Is 1AC MATCHES or CATCHES?

    I thought CATCHES as in "catches up" and "play catches"

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  6. PE is physical education.

    Usu. indicated by training, exercise, gymnastics, etc.

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  7. But 'catches' isn't 'games'. Or is it?

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  8. catches can be games as in hunting.

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  9. @ Chaturvasi

    Thanks. Your wife, as you said, was born and raised in Kolkata. Now you are being addressed as 'Chaturji'. Mind you, anytime there could be a hazard of someone taking you for a 'Chatterji', which could be a 'Bong-shell' of a blunder. (With apologies to Bipasha Basu, who is fondly referred to ny this epithet.)

    Richard

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  10. Correction: '....who is fondly referred to by this epithet.)

    Richard

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  11. C-Vasi ji, I was thinking about playing "catch" as a game.

    Now that I think about it, it is a game and not games, "Matches" is the correct answer. I did not know that "Keep up" also means "to match"...

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  12. Richard,

    Like C-Vasi sir does, I enjoy your comments and tidbits, as well. Since I never addressed you directly before, maybe I should start by saying, "Enchina maaraaya. Edde vullara. :-)" Well, the thing is, though I am from Kurnool, AP, I graduated from KREC Surathkal in 1986 and hence some knowledge of Tulu.

    Please keep up the good work.

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  13. It is indeed a great relief to be spared of NJ for another 21 days.

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  14. Never heard of Gol Gappa. Kinda looks interesting. Oughta try it sometime.

    Ring = "O" seems kinda strange to me. Is it really a standard in cryptic crosswords?

    How does "ELL" relate to "measure"?

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  15. @Dan
    Measure denotes usually Liter, "L" or "ELL"
    Yes Ring denotes "O" usually.

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  16. @Dan & Krishnan,
    ELL is not Litre but length of the arm from Shoulder to wrist see ELL

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  17. GOL GAPPA is one of the standard snacks at any Chaat shop, it is more popularly known as PANI-PURI in areas other than the North

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  18. I stand corrected, thanks Colonel.

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  19. Ell is a measure. A varying measure of length originally taken from the arm.
    See how our flowersellers measure the strings of flowers.
    Litre will yield L.
    BTW, there's this proverb "Give him an inch and he will take an ell".
    Please look up the proverb in a dictionary, though you might guess its meaning.

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  20. @ Satya

    Thanks. Nice to know that you are an alumnus of the Karnataka Regional Engineering College (KREC), Suratkal - now known as the National Institute of Technology Karnataka (NITK). You may be in touch with your alma mater through some alumni association.

    I am told that there are alumni commmunities of KREC / NITK on the Web, esp., on blogs and social networking sites. I used to represent my college in the multidistrict-level quiz competitions conducted by the Planning Forum of the KREC. (In hush-hush voice, I would like to reveal that I stood the champion once.)

    For your info, NITK has a new PINcode now. It is Srinivasnagar, Mangalore 575 025.

    Nice to know you still remember some words in Tulu, a language specific to Mangalore and Udupi districts. Natives of this part of the country, you may have observed, are well-versed in at least four or five languages.

    I don't want to hog more space here. For further communication which is not relevant to this blog, I can be reached at richlas (at) gmail (dot) com.


    Richard

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  21. 21A: 'discourse' is a noun while 'relate' is a verb.
    'discourse' can also be a verb e.g. He discourses with authority on the subject.
    However, I don't think the word is interchangeable with 'relate', as the prepositions that follow them are different.

    31A: Poorly constructed clue with misleading connectors and a dubious anagrind, but it's brought about a nice side-effect in the comment space. To add my 2c:
    The GOL GAPPA has regional variants - in Delhi the maida puris are more popular, while in Bihar/Bengal the atta ones are preferred. The 'paani' and other fillings differ too - Bihar/Bengal use aloo and a tamarind-based pani at room temperature. In Delhi, the pani is mint-based, with boondi, and is often chilled. In Mumbai, they sometimes put in slightly warm chhole into the poori.

    My Bengali friends, when they crave the snack, drive all the way from Gurgaon to Chittaranjan Park in South Delhi. That's the only place to get "authentic" (i.e. Bengal-style) gol gappas, they say.

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  22. I am a regular at the chaatwala in Gopinath Bazaar in Delhi Cantt whenever I pass through Delhi.
    I remember going with my parents to a chaatwala in some bazaar (I forget the name) in Lucknow in the mid 50's when I was just 5, the chaatwala who use to operate from a cart was known as 'The King of Chaats, we used to carry our own plates and spoons and line up awaiting our turn to get at the delicacies (Yummmieeee) he used to churn out.

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  23. As an aside to that, I am reminded of the Kulfi guy in Mhow where the army has a huge training establishment, in the 50's when I was there with my parents this guy used to come around in a push cart at nights when we all would be sleeping in the open to beat the heat under mosquito nets of course, when I last went to Mhow in 1995 he used to go around on a scooter with the matka carrying the kulfi, he purposely goes around just after luchtime, tooting his scooter horn, knowing that everyone will come out to eat one to beat the heat. Anyone visitng Mhow, this guys Kulfi's are a must. He also has a shop in the market nowadays. I presume he must be going aroung in a minivan now to sell his wares!!

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  24. 21A: 'discourse' is a noun while 'relate' is a verb.

    Besides, is 'family' a proper def for word reqd, 'relative'?

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  25. 31A: Poorly constructed clue with misleading connectors and a dubious anagrind...

    Besides, is "in the borders of" a correct idiomatic expression? Or should it be 'on'?

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  26. The "GUPPA" on GOL GUPPA was indeed Refreshing

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  27. CVasi Sir, I don't think it is, as richlas has mentioned in the first comment.

    One does say "He's family" to mean "He's a relative", but the "a" is a deal-breaker there.

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  28. Colonel,

    I was wondering if someone ever thought of making the "paani" of gol guppas with Vodka spiced Lassi!!! Hmmm. Sorry PPMadam. Off I go again talking about alcohol. :-)

    Richard,

    Thank you for the reply, my friend. I will soon email you.

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  29. @Satya,
    Good idea, must try that out one-day, maybe I'll use GIN. I'm still trying to figure out Ordinarily!!!

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  30. 1 ac .keeps up with the games. I too thought of catches as the answer.
    keeps up =catches (like u catch up with the latest.}
    games =cats (as domestic animals).

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  31. good riddance.. but as i said yes. just because it is easy does not mean it is good... but at least few mistakes today.. did not get just 2 rosita which i didnt know and matches//catches or whatever she means. one can never be sure about NJ.
    @colonel saab yeah the chat n lucknow is phenomenal. was it somehere near novelty cinema where u ate that chaat. Dont belong to Lucknow but go there often
    Interestingly some of the chaat in Shahjahanabad (old delhi today)was introduced as a unani medicine some 200-300 years ago owing to the quality of water and was introduced as a deliberate remedy (nostrum some would say) to deliver the praja from an upset stomach.

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  32. colonelji, how is gridman? better than NJ? because expectations are running too high.

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  33. any idea any one what the cost of this 'Macnutt art of crossword' is?

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  34. AVON and PLIMSOLL were beautiful! 'chlorine gas in pastry' was typically NJ, though.Just imagine it and dieting will be easy!

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  35. @vck,
    Easy or difficult is for the solver to decide, but as far as Gridman is concerned you will not get an occasion to find fault with the clues which will be impeccable, you will not run into the kind of problems posed by NJ.

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  36. that is really something to look forward to!
    thanks colonelji.

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  37. For a change got the whole CW in my first pass.

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