Saturday, 6 July 2013

No 10818, Saturday 06 Jul 13, Buzzer

Fantastic opener from Buzzer 8D and 9D being the last to fall.

ACROSS
1   Not finishing job on time is wrong (6) ERRANT {ERRANd}{T}
5   Rough mount say (6) HOARSE (~horse)
10 Take no notice of men driven by any means (5,4) NEVER MIND*
11 This paper-back, recommended for all (5) HINDU {HIND}{U} My COD
12 Sensation often given by first pint in bar (5) ESTOP {sEbSaTiOn}{P} 
13 So one clue I’d composed is pleasing? (9) DELICIOUS {SO+1+CLUE+I'D}*
14 Land in emergency room being run over by coach (7) TERRAIN {T{ER}RAIN}
16 Zulu chief wearing woven angora fabric (7) ORGANZA {ORGAN{Z}A*}
18 Depart from archaeological site on ship (7) DIGRESS {DIG}{RE}{SS}
20 Instrument, might be associated with Police Sergeant (7) FORCEPS {FORCE}{PS}
21 Exhibiting unacceptable behaviour away from work (3,2,4) OUT OF LINE [DD]
23 Start skipping a meal (5) LUNCH LaUNCH
25 Money one is obliged to pay for tool (5) MOWER {M}{OWER}
26 Passing bats, ample here (9) EPHEMERAL*
27 Cross and somewhat tetchy bridegroom (6) HYBRID [T]
28 Recited Frost’s poems (6) RHYMES (~rime's)

DOWN
2   Nail to drive through walls (5) RIVET [T]
3   Transport network in a continent found wanting you hear (9) AEROPLANE (~europe lane) ? (Addenum - {A}{EuROP{LAN}E} - See comments)
4   Wore freshly ironed tee (5,2) TRIED ON {IRONED+T}*
5   Disguised gangster to disappear into Mexican state (7) HIDALGO {HID}{AL}{GO}
6   Makeshift hospital a medico went around (2,3) AD HOC {A}{D {H}OC}
7   We put up new sofa in a room (3,6) SUN LOUNGE {SU<=}{N} {LOUNGE}
8   Either or neither end of ‘hammock’ (8,5) INVERTED COMMA [CD] (Addendum - [DD] - See comments)
9   Nurse, duly chastised, full of grace (8,5) TUESDAYS CHILD*
15 Immediately left home? Quite the opposite (5,4) RIGHT AWAY Opposite of 'left in'
17 Surprisingly more glib youth leader showed goodness (9) GORBLIMEY {MORE+GLIB+Y}*
19 Small bonus added to final salary (7) STIPEND {S}{TIP}{END}
20 Relatively smart first year student (7) FRESHER [DD]
22 Excitement in America following gold seen around an old city (5) FUROR {F}{UR}{OR}
24 Part of the body — cheek (5) NERVE [DD]

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  1. Anonymous6 July 2013 at 08:33

    3 Transport network in a continent found wanting you hear (9) AEROPLANE AEROPLANE Anno pending

    network=lan
    in=insertion indication
    a=a
    continent=europe-u (=~you,wanting you hear)=erope
    A EROP(LAN)E

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  2. Venkatesh6 July 2013 at 08:42

    Thanks to the setters, we are learning variants of words we knew so well, FURORE in this case. (var. FUROR 22Dn)

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  3. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 08:43

    Excellent one from Buzzer!

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  4. jaggu6 July 2013 at 08:54

    20A
    The Forceps demonstrated is the Obstetric forceps used in assisting deliveries.
    More often the word forceps is used to name quite a few of the holding instruments used in Surgery.The Chimta used in cooking is a type of forceps.

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  5. Richard6 July 2013 at 09:05

    11A This paper-back, recommended for all (5) HINDU {HIND}{U} My COD

    Very clever one. At first I wondered as to why a hyphen had to come in since 'paperback' is a single word.

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    1. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 09:07

      Without the hyphen would have been cleverer, as we see these kind of clues in use.

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    2. Richard6 July 2013 at 09:22

      +1

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    3. Richard6 July 2013 at 09:37

      The management of the paper should be mighty pleased about the compliment from the setter.

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  6. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 09:05

    25 Money one is obliged to pay for tool (5) MOWER

    Was confused by 'Is'. Wondered whether it lead to M OWED and then settled for Mower. Does 'one is obliged to pay' lead to OWER, or 'one (-is) obliged to pay' lead to OWER? Still confused.

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  7. Suresh6 July 2013 at 09:28

    Buzzer continues to be my fav. among setters and does not disappoint

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  8. Richard6 July 2013 at 09:29

    24D Part of the body — cheek (5) NERVE [DD]

    A query for a TT like Kishore:

    If you have the cheek, you have the nerve. If you have the nerve, you have the guts. If you have the guts, you have the bottle....

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    1. Anonymous6 July 2013 at 09:47

      and then all we require is a dead man's chest ...
      and we can all go Yo ho ho (getting another 13 men should not be a problem)

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    2. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 09:58

      I'm in.

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    3. Rengaswamy6 July 2013 at 10:20

      If you have the guts, you make a racket

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    4. Richard6 July 2013 at 10:23

      Good one, Renga!

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    5. Richard6 July 2013 at 10:28

      The pun apart, what you perhaps meant was 'racquet'...

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    6. Chaturvasi6 July 2013 at 10:31

      Raghunath

      See racket superscript 1 in Chambers.

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    7. Richard6 July 2013 at 10:49

      I too checked Chambers. Both spellings used for the bat used in tennis etc. Thanks.

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  9. Richard6 July 2013 at 09:34

    13A So one clue I’d composed is pleasing? (9) DELICIOUS {SO+1+CLUE+I'D}*

    If Buzzer is keen on an answer to the question, I would say, 'Most definitely1' :-)

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  10. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 09:46

    8 Either or neither end of ‘hammock’ (8,5) INVERTED COMMA [CD]

    I think COMMA is from (-h)AMMOC(-k) and neither end is AMMOC and that is Inverted 'COMMA'.

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    1. Anonymous6 July 2013 at 09:48

      Brilliant !

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    2. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 09:54

      And if this what Buzzer meant then that's my COD

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    3. Anonymous6 July 2013 at 10:02

      I am sure he meant that. The choice of hammock in the ' ' cannot be a random one.

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    4. Deepak Gopinath6 July 2013 at 10:06

      The solution given above is for 'neither end of hammock'

      So we have
      Either end of 'hammock' = Inverted comma
      and
      neither end of 'hammock' = (-h)AMMOC(-k) which is Inverted COMMA

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    5. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 10:09

      Another + for Buzzer.

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    6. Rengaswamy6 July 2013 at 10:25

      Nearly 30 years ago I have seen a similar clue in Telegraph (when I was stationed in Haldia for commissioning a refinery plant). It was clued "SAMMOC" (8,6). I had the greatest satisfaction that day when I solved that clue - INVERTED COMMAS.

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    7. Chaturvasi6 July 2013 at 10:26

      Actually I had missed that brilliant exposition. Congrats to Raghunath who I know from message boards and blogs that he bestows much thought on annos for solved clues.

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    8. Chaturvasi6 July 2013 at 10:29

      Renga. Thanks for that! Yes, often we do remember not only a clue but also when and where we first solved it. But that must be a brilliant clue, no doubt!

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    9. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 11:46

      Thanks, CV
      Still in the process of improving.

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  11. Anonymous6 July 2013 at 09:47

    The online version still carries its 'XXXX' numbering

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    1. Richard6 July 2013 at 10:48

      The last time it was the aftermath of the weekend hangover. Now it must be to welcome the weekend hangover.

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  12. Mukundala Balasubramanyam6 July 2013 at 11:20

    Thanks, Buzzer for putting me back on the rails ! I was off the track yesterday while solving Neyatha's puzzle !
    I don't say I had an easy time solving yours, but then don't you think that 70 out of 100 is a good score by an amateur ?

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  13. VP6 July 2013 at 13:34

    Excellent puzzle and a delight to solve.
    Was wondering why the choice of word 'hammock' for a bit. Did not strike me until I saw the blog. Definitely My COD.

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  14. SandhyaP6 July 2013 at 13:54

    Inverted comma - great cluing by Bhavan & great cracking by Raghunath!

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  15. Mukundala Balasubramanyam6 July 2013 at 16:15

    9D : Nurse, duly chastised, full of grace (8,5) (Tuesdays Child)

    To get that answer, I feel it's a real struggle for those who are not familiar with the Poem : "Tuesdays child is full of grace".
    Firstly breaking the anagram "duly chastised" into 8+5 is a Herculean task. Supposing one does break it, then he wonders how it is linked with "full of grace" ! Finally one has to Google it to get the answer. What happens to those without a PC !?

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    1. Deepak Gopinath6 July 2013 at 17:33

      MB,

      That is the problem with CD/GK/E type clues either you know it or you don't, anyway most old timers will know this poem

      Monday's child is fair of face,
      Tuesday's child is full of grace,
      Wednesday's child is full of woe,
      Thursday's child has far to go,
      Friday's child is loving and giving,
      Saturday's child works hard for a living,
      But the child who is born on the Sabbath Day
      Is bonny and blithe and good and gay

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    2. Deepak Gopinath6 July 2013 at 17:37

      By the way I'm a Tuesday child

      You can check out your day of birth and print a certificate at this link YOUR DAY OF BIRTH

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    3. Kishore6 July 2013 at 17:52

      But new timers will wonder if that 1/7 th of humans are gay !

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    4. Mukundala Balasubramanyam6 July 2013 at 18:52

      Thanks, Col.Saheb ! Happy to know I am a Sunday child ! I never knew that I was born on Sabbath day. I am gay but not in some other sense !!

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  16. RameshJ6 July 2013 at 20:19

    Lovely one form Buzzer. 'Inverted comma' was simply superb. Four of the clues today may raise a few questions when examined under a microscope, but this will remain a very good candidate for the 'THC's top ten cws of 2013'

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  17. RameshJ6 July 2013 at 20:22

    A big thank you to CVji for his 9X9 that he had sent across some time back. It finally got used in today's CW course for children. They enjoyed it very much.

    Tomorrow they are going to tackle a simple Hindu CW. Any recommendations as to which one I should use ? The youngest child is 9, the oldest is 14. Average age ~11 yrs

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    1. Col_Gopinath6 July 2013 at 20:34

      Suggest you pick one from Sankalak which does not have words with large enumeration

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  18. raju umamaheswar6 July 2013 at 20:53

    Its a pity that my comments go unnoticed, possibly due to the time-difference. Is there any one who goes back to the earlier day and bother to respond? vide my request as under: last week.

    . (4,4)

    Here's another one : ? (8,4)


    On inverted comma (shouldn't it have been commas?): This indeed is the clue of my day. I enjoyed cracking it but I felt that the give-away was the inverted commas by themselves ! No doubt, hints were thrown for the more annotatively-minded solvers- ''within'' the word : Hammock and-'' comma'' inverted inside H and K ! A beautifully contrived clue, I should say !!

    can Buzzer clarify what exactly he meant?

    I too had seen this type of clues from the Times of London.









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    1. Suresh6 July 2013 at 21:43

      Full stop and question mark.

      It is inverted comma because it is either end and not both ends

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    2. Raghunath6 July 2013 at 21:47

      Raju,

      Do not despair. Answers to your clues:

      . (4,4): FULL,STOP
      ? (8,4): QUESTION,MARK

      Not difficult I must add.

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  19. VJ6 July 2013 at 21:23

    Nice one but thought there were still a few doubtful ones

    * 1a, not finishing job for errant-t doesn't sound right grammatically. Maybe unfinished job or job unfinished but not sure about the one used in the clue

    11a, paperback is a word that's hardly hyphenated

    12a, first pint = p is not sound iMO

    26a, positioning of anagram indicator could have been better. Bats doesn't sound convincing when used before the fodder. Same in the case of 4d and 17d

    25a, Does one is obliged to pay and one who is obliged to pay mean the same?

    3d, you hear convey the same meaning as you, when heard?

    7d, we = us?

    19d added to final gives an impression that END is taking the lead. So not sure if the sequencing is proper

    8d, even after so much discussions still not sure how neither end denotes removal of h and k

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  20. Shrikanth7 July 2013 at 08:21

    Col anno for 15D : Should that be opposite of just ' left home' . Because substitution of home for 'in' makes the clue iffy, whereas away by itself could be the opposite of home, as in home matches and away matches.

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