ACROSS
7 It could be little stiff in German stores(6) FINGER (T)8 Spoken originally, it ranks about 3rd oldest language in the world(8) SANSKRIT {S
9 Street fellow, tender at heart, becomes a fall guy(5,3) STRAW MAN {ST}{RAW}{MAN}
10 Hesitatingly claim ownership for fur(6) ERMINE {ER}{MINE}
11 He is sex worker? Not sure(8) HESITANT {HE}{'S}{IT}{ANT}
12 Daily routine of prostitutes without work(6) CHORES {C}{
13 Playing well and not opening? Local guy has so much to offer(11) INFORMATIVE {IN-FORM}{
18 Most certain way to restrict abusive user(6) SUREST {S{USER*}T}
20 Origin of pessimism for example is discounted(8) NATIVITY {N
22 Some American choreography show host(6) ANCHOR (T)
23 Summary: 6 balls and 6 extras (wides) at start(8) OVERVIEW{OVER}{VI}{E
24 Trump’s gone! Excellent!(8) OUTCLASS {OUT}{CLASS}
25 Easy to deal with the Italian on the inside(6) FACILE {FAC{IL}E}
DOWN
1 Very cold season, no work, no breaks for winemaker(7) VINTNER {V}{2 Medieval city, next to Iran, revolutionised farming(8) AGRARIAN {AGRA}{IRAN*}
3 Part of Ukraine, essentially annexed after an unlawful act(6) CRIMEA {
4 Piece of meat turned, cooked over copper(8) UNDERCUT {TURNED*} around {CU}
5 Al-Hakim boasted, holding hands on hips(6) AKIMBO (T)
6 She is engaged in face waxing procedure essentially(7) FIANCEE {IN+FACE*}{
8 Holier-than-thou musician’s ‘no’ to remixes(13) SANCTIMONIOUS {MUSICIAN+S+NO+TO*}
14 Spooner’s fight, scrape results in spasm(8) OUTBREAK (Spoonerism of {BOUT RAKE} ?)
15 Interview West Indian cricketing legend with a voice, one nowhere to be seen(4,4) VIVA VOCE {VIV}{A}{VO
16 Spectacular kind of physics(7) QUANTUM (DD?) Why spectacular?
17 Moor’s heart is filled with tension and torment — that’s a tragedy(7) OTHELLO {O{T}{HELL}O}
19 Heart of Goethian codes — empty morals(6) ETHICS {
21 Shuffling of feet! That’s how you start a golf game!(3,3) TEE OFF {OF+FEET*}
Reference List
Street=St, Is='S, Sex=It, Worker=Ant, Cold=C, Work=W, Way=St, For example=Eg, 6 balls=Over, 6=Vi, Italian=Il
Very=V, Work=W, No=N, Copper=Cu, One=I
Colour/Font Scheme
Definition, Solution, Component letters, Embedded links, Theme word, Reference list word, Anagram Indicator, C/C indicator, Reversal Indicator, Hidden word Indicator, Letter Pick indicator, Deletion Indicator, Homophone Indicator, Movement Indicator, Positional Indicator, Substitution, Indicator, Opposite indicator, Link/Connector, Extraneous
17d physics T is symbol of tension!
ReplyDeleteToday's surfacreading wss nice. Liked 13A
ReplyDelete11a. Typo in the answer - extra i
ReplyDelete16d. Why spectacular - Perhaps as it allows particles to be in two states at the same time!
Good day.
Good enjoyable concert by Vidwan. Liked Trump a lot. Once you say Trump ( Natural capitalisation being the first word) you think only of Trump,the ex President- at least nowadays. Nicely done.
ReplyDelete3D0 Essentially annexed- A. First letter can also be essential? Not necessarily the middle letter?
ReplyDeleteYes, the new age setters leave you to guess whether they mean basic,fundamental or intrinsic.
DeleteAll in the name of synonyms in OED!
Or rather synonym to synonym
DeleteThank you.
DeletePart of .... essentially = composite central letter indicator. That makes the whole clue & lit.
DeleteSemi & Lit as "part of Ukraine" has no role in WP
DeleteWhatif the "a" comes from Ukraine and annexed after is placement indicator!
DeleteYes Sree.
DeleteThat was the WP intended.
Part of Ukraine in itself will give any part of Ukraine.
However Part of Ukraine essentially is A.
Composite central letter indicator.
Illustrated as below.
Heart of FODDER
What lies at the heart of FODDER
essentially FODDER
Part of FODDER essentially
Nice blogging Ramesh- as usual. Thank you.
ReplyDelete16d probably refers to physics of tiny specks (spec(k)tacular). Nuclear also fit but 24a makes Quantum a better choice.
ReplyDeleteIt's just "out of this world" science.
DeleteYes,that fits- spectacularly.
DeleteQuantum as an adjective e.g. Quantum leap
DeleteThank you. I assume Yours Politely to be Vidwan.
DeleteOr is it Edwin Antony?
Delete"Quant leap" is a noun as far as I know.
DeleteHe says Quantum as an adj.in quantum leap- describing leap.
Delete5. (modifier) loosely, sudden, spectacular, or vitally important: a quantum improvement.
DeleteFrom thefreedictionary
3D. Definition needs to be highlighted.
ReplyDeleteVidwan's grid ultimate Today. esp. SANSKRIT, HESITANT, OVERVIEW, VIVA VOCE ETHICS.....Thanks Vidwan. Happy week end.
ReplyDeleteCould anyone explain 14d?
ReplyDeleteFight scrape is Bout rake. Spoonerism is exchange of syllables in the 2 words. So it becomes outbreak- note exchange as syllables only and not letters.
DeleteIn this case he Syllable from the second half has not moved
DeleteSpoonerism need not be about syllables only. Consonants, vowels and sounds may also switch. It is the effect that matters. This is my understanding.
DeleteThe following is an often cited illustration which is similar to usage in the clue (out break =>bout rake
A well-boiled icicle" ("well-oiled bicycle")
Had a relook at it.Actually only one letter has moved- B has moved from first place and a change of spelling - brake to break. So not a proper spoonerism. I tried my best to explain.
Delete"A well-boiled icicle" ("well-oiled bicycle")
Delete"Bout rake" ("Out break") in the clue.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/literature-and-arts/literature-english/english-literature-20th-cent-present/spoonerism
A spoonerism is an error in speech in which corresponding consonants, vowels, or morphemes are switched (see metathesis) between two words in a phrase.[1][2] These are named after the Oxford don and ordained minister William Archibald Spooner, who reputedly did this.
DeleteThis is what wiki says. And yes, "A well boiled icicle" is mentioned as an example.
Thank you Vidwan/ Yours politely for clarifying. So far the Spoonerisms we have been coming across in CW's have been interchange of syllables. Here is the link-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism
🙏Regards
DeleteYes Paddy, if we look at even the loosest of def used for spoonerism, the operating word is "exchange of" (location of A and B has become irrelevant but the exchange of A and B is a must still).
DeleteAnd most of the examples quoted in the name of Spooner are spurious. So we cannot take an example as def! Can we?
But to be frank, with the kind of recent usgaes of spoonerisms, this one atleats is plain amd obvious once we get bout and rake!
Just another reference
Deletehttps://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/spoonerism
Definition of spoonerism noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
spoonerism noun
a mistake in which you change around the first sounds of two words by mistake when saying them, often with a humorous result, for example well-boiled icicle for well-oiled bicycle
That is verbatim extract from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary.
Language is primarily a sound related process. Written language comes next.
Spoonerism is basically oral/auditory phenomenon. We hear the mixed up sounds.
Homophone is another linguistic feature which is about sounds.
Representation of sound made by human tongue in written language is attained through symbols i.e. alphabets (vowels, consonants) and Syllables. Pronunciation still needs to be clearly defined with symbols.
Mixing up of sounds in spoken language is at core of spoonerism . Describing the mixing of sound in formulaic manner is secondary process. Hence the definition of spoonerism clearly gives primacy to sound.
Amongst the crossword clue types, Spoonerism and homophone are sound related.
CD and DD are related to semantics (meanings of the words interpreted or presented cryptically)
All other clue types are letters related.
Anagram is jumbling of letters.
Acrostic, Telescopic, Reversal, Substitution/ Deletion all involve letter selection.
Reversal involves changing direction of sequence of letters. Hence should clubbed be with anagram clue type.
DeleteThere are bus clue type which us related to geometry/symmetry of letters for e.g. b and d, p and b, w and m, g and q and so on.
Thank you for all the clarifications- Happy to get the setter's point of view.
DeleteLate solving. Quite an interesting weekend entertainment. Thank you Vidwan. :)
ReplyDeleteVery entertaining lovely grid today. Couldn't parse the spooner clearly. Interesting to read the explanations on it. Also the physics clue. Thanks Vidwan for a nice grid.
ReplyDeleteGood clues with nice surfaces.
ReplyDeleteRoot issues in straw man & outclass. Also not convinced with this type of spoonerism
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ReplyDeleteBy root issue in straw man, I think you are referring to use of fellow to code man.
Root issue comes when one use one of the derived words to clue the given word.
For e.g. using GIVE in a clue for GIVEN.
Fellow is a synonym of man. There is no root connection between these words.
Synonyms are used in cryptic clues to clue parts of thr clued word or phrase. Double definition infact works on using two definitions (including synonyms) to create a misdirection semantically.
In OUTCLASS clue (A charade clue type), I am not sure what you are referring to as root issue.
The clue is straight charade.
Gone = out
Excellent = class
Trump = outclass
It works cryptically on basis of
1. Trump = misdirection to the ex-President
2. Surface is relatable to trump
3. The individual synonyms out (gone) and class (excellent) have to be derived by solver from amongst many combinations as each part OUT & CLASS have multiple synonyms each. Out (= away,absent, dead, available and so on) and Class (= form, grade, lesson, group, style and so on). TRUMP too is one of the many synonyms of outclass (= surpass, beat, top, tower above and so on).
Tower above dead group of students (8) - Charade
Tower above Trump? (8) DD
are other clues feasible using diverse set of synonyms of OUT CLASS and OUTCLASS. Both work as surface reading and cryptic readings are very distinct.
Regards
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/crosswords/crossword-blog/2019/nov/25/crossword-blog-does-it-matter-when-words-share-roots
DeleteHope this answers the reactions here.
outclass (v.)
Delete1870, originally in sports, "to beat (a rival) so completely as to put him out of the same class," from out- + class (n.).
That's def a derived word!
Yes man in clue and answer means the same. That part is not cryptic. Same with class in the other clue.. in fact in most of the "out" words.
DeleteBut I think many setters don't mind this.For example, see today's Everyman