Wednesday, 14 March 2012

No 10410, Wednesday 14 Mar 12, Sankalak

ACROSS
1   - Arthur cut short in drinking binge by the one serving drinks (9) - BARTENDER {B{ARThur}ENDER}
5   - Priest seen in a Haripad religious festival (5) - PADRE [T]
8   - Toothy jumbo (6) - TUSKER [CD]
9   - He evaluates stupid people extremely close to distemper (8) - ASSESSOR {ASSES}S{O}{R} How do we get the fourth 'S'?
11 - Boy gets a point scored in cricket (4) - ARUN{A}{RUN}
12 - To rig an event somehow is exhausting (10) - ENERVATING*
14 - A flower to preserve with sodium (5) - CANNA{CAN}{NA}
15 - First of culprits, surrounded, cowered in fear (7) - CRINGED{C}{RINGED}
16 - Hot stuff from Dante (7) - INFERNO [GK]
17 - System of medicine featured in article in news service (5) - UNANI {UN{AN}I}
19 - Diamonds, say, in card game? Yes, we hear (10) - SOLITAIRES {SOLITAIRE}{S}(~yes) Anno not clear
20 - Caught and deceived in African country (4) - CHAD{C}{HAD}
22 - Goes through it again like one charged with an offence when asked (8) - REENACTS [CD]
23 - For a bet, lawyer enters sport (6) - GAMBLE{GAM{BL}E}
24 - Elephant girl of Miami Beach (5) - ROSIE [GK]
25 - Customers somehow elect to suppress right (9) - CLIENTELE {C{LIEN}TELE*}
DOWN
1   - Gamble on a glimmer of hope but break a promise (6) - BETRAY{BET}{RAY}
2   - Troubleshooting ability makes secure loner fuss unreasonably (15) - RESOURCEFULNESS*
3   - Steady girl close to frustration (4) - EVEN{EVE}{N}
4   - Organised afresh with design in bright colour (12) - RESTRUCTURED {RE{STRUCTURE}D}
5   - Two girls beginning to love before marriage (10) - PREMARITAL {PREMA}{RITA}{L}
6   - Unfortunately Sue's idling habit can be easily noticed (15) - DISTINGUISHABLE*
7   - With unfinished objective, magazine editor is made very angry (7) - ENRAGED{ENd}{RAG}{ED}
10 - Opposed to worker in charge hosting Samson, non-US (12) -  ANTAGONISTIC {ANT}AGONIST{IC} Anno pending
13 - Try to gain the favour of an irate giant running wild (10) - INGRATIATE*
16 - He takes risks for you (7) - INSURER [CD]
18 - To follow orders, prosecutor reflected on the girl's point (6) - ADHERE{AD<-}{HER}{E}
21 - Newspaper at daybreak (4) - DAWN [DD]



32 comments:

  1. 9 - He evaluates stupid people extremely close to distemper (8) - ASSESSOR {ASSES}S{O}{R} How do we get the fourth 'S'?

    {ASSES}{SO}{R}

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    1. I had the same as Sandhya.

      So (adverb) : In a high degree

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    2. As in "I am so happy that Col. Deepak's blog is popular with solvers old and new."

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    3. Thanks all, especially CV for the example

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  2. 10 - Opposed to worker in charge hosting Samson, non-US (12) - ANTAGONISTIC {ANT}AGONIST{IC} Anno pending

    Samson Agonistus is a character from Bible

    From the net:

    Samson Agonistus is symbolised as a man of strength and power, but when he trusted his love Dalila, he told her his secret of the strength. She was specially sent to collect it from him and so she got it as it is his long hair. Once when he slept she cut the hair and thus Samson was defeated.

    or it could be a reference to this, but the wordplay doesn't add up.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Agonistes

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  3. 10 - Opposed to worker in charge hosting Samson, non-US (12) - ANTAGONISTIC {ANT}AGONIST{IC} Anno pending

    Samson (of Delilah fame) is known as Samson Agonistes (as in Milton's title of his long poem).

    Would the setter have taken it as Agonistus and expect us to delete US from it?

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  4. Re the contentious clue of yesterday Jayaraman commented yesterday confirming that in his copy of the cw the word was 'tuned out' and not 'turned out'.

    My point about typos not being acceptable in a crossword holds and it is for The Hindu to take appropriate action if it wants to stay ahead of the times.

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  5. Voicing for a CW editor? It has been due a long time. A spelling mistake at any place is bad, but in a CW it Makes it S & N poles !

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    1. Does a typo require a crossword editor? It needs a good proof-reader.

      But then, I talk without in-depth knowledge of the whole process.

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  6. 10 Down: Chaturvasi's comment made me realise the error I had made, misspelling the surname of Samson as 'Agonistus" (with"us" instead of "es" at the end, leading to the bad clue. Apologies.

    Sankalak

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  7. solitaires are single diamonds i guess

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  8. 25a Customers somehow elect to suppress right (9) - CLIENTELE {C{LIEN}TELE*}

    'Suppress' as a Container indicator? Not heard of this one before

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    1. Suppress meaning conceal or contain or withhold looks like a very valid indicator

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  9. In the middle of these interesting discussions, is Mr Regular missing?

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    1. As a former journalist who has worked in different environments, old and advanced,I can say how typos occur.

      Formerly newspapers had what is called the proof-reading department. One held the copy set by the typesetting dept and read out the matter; another saw the proof and made corrections.

      Now most, if not all, newspapers have abolished the typesetting dept as well as the proofreading department. The subs themselves edit matter received (if this had been done, Sankalak's original would have remained as it is and would have been correct); sometimes for some technical reason the matter may be reset by someone (instead of merely accepting the file sent by the writer/compiler) and later the subs may just run their eyes over it and pass the item.

      In this visual checking a mistake like 'inapt' for 'inept' or 'inuring' for 'insuring' is apt to be missed, though even these can be caught by alert subs taking sense of the line as well while checking the item.

      I really don't know what happened in this particular instance. I am merely putting things in perspective. Sometimes perfect copy sent by me has suffered errors at the printing stage. Rarely I myself have overlooked an error which, alas, was not caught at the editing stage. All that we can do is just live with it.

      And finally I can say that subs do catch errors and often they have saved the day for writers. That is, they are doing their job. Let's be grateful!

      Crosswords in UK newspapers too do have printing errors though they may be minimal. Often these occur in the online version because the matter that is set and proofread to perfection cannot be imported into the software that puts the crossword up: some typist re-enters the clues and while doing so commits an error that goes unchecked. Thus, a clue in the the newspaper version is correct: in the online version it is not.

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    2. As a rider I may say that if a paper straightaway uses a file sent by the compiler, it puts enormous strain on the compiler to present perfect copy. You can imagine the kind of pressure that they undergo in sending perfect copy.

      If even after this an error crops up, they must have the right frame of mind to accept it instead of thinking heavens have fallen over them.

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  10. Interesting comments this morning - and unfortunately I always pitch up 6 hours too late!
    Nice smooth grid again - but I somehow managed to miss out with Rosie - so off to drown my sorrows with some rosie lee .....

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  11. Mr. Regular would have commented on Tusk and Tusker appearing in the puzzles and said something about it.

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  12. Thanks, CV for the detailed process of editing in a newspaper.

    My comments stem from the fact that the number of these printing errors appeared a bit high. In the THC we see them a couple of times a month.

    Perhaps, with the faster pace of life nowadays one of the things that suffers is attention to detail (some of which may be unnecessary).

    And maybe I am being more finicky than I should.

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  13. Lively discussion on a 'Sankalak' day - a swallow in summer. On 12th there was a discussion with regard to good / goods. In line, I raised the following:

    In continuation to good/goods, can anyone clarify 'quarters' / 'premises' be used both as singular and plural?

    I think it was the last comment and nobody saw the same. CV Sir, are you there?

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  14. 20 - Caught and deceived in African country (4) - CHAD{C}{HAD}

    can anyone please explain this.

    how to relate deceive with "HAD" ??

    - DP

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    1. I have been had = I have been deceived

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  15. 17 - System of medicine featured in article in news service (5) - UNANI {UN{AN}I}

    Made me chuckle remembering that Unani doctors usually have BUMS behind their names.

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  16. 1 - Gamble on a glimmer of hope but break a promise (6) - BETRAY{BET}{RAY}

    The cartoon of the Coke can cavorting with the Pepsi can was great. Thums up to such cartoons.

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  17. I dont know who Rich and Bhar are talking about, but I am on my way to becoming Mr Irregular...

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    1. The cap fits you. There is joy in being regularly irregular.

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  18. ...for the ides of March signify that the financial year end is round the corner.

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