Sunday, 29 September 2013

Special, Sunday 29 Sep 2013, Afterdark


Three answers per commenter with annotations upto 6 PM

ACROSS
8   Eccentric boor seized the French jacket (6)
9   After commencement, 1D puts on southern dungarees (8)
10 Liberal urging to get second garment (8)
11 Should let learner go and soon get king's clothing (6)
12 A lease taken by friend is related to father (8)
13 Bolt on the bed Lawrence riveted initially (6)
14 Bewildered pupil in ship makes errors (4-3)
17 Girl's cable for underwear (1-6)
20 The skirt king swapped for Henry's garment (1-5)
22 Anyhow certainly no point in education (8)
25 Open University not to receive cayenne (6)
26 Vote to accept returning mother in law's sneaker (8)
27 Old king protects a lady's short dress (8)
28 Westbound old boy cut women's clothing (6)

DOWN
1   Returning priest and everyone follow officer on boilersuit (8)
2   Married soldier wearing English shoe (6)
3   Headgear from German city on stranger's head (6)
4   Study about lust and discuss (7)
5   Deck boss fancifully with a clothing item (3,5)
6   Author ran back right before a hill (8)
7   Bach's disturbed soul is on English jacket (6)
15 Quiet Asian police officer with black French garment (8)
16 Drink made in potato (8)
18 Kiss the French engineers' ornament (8)
19 After fall, salesman came back with footwear (7)
21 Humanist carelessly discards Mumbai Indians' debutante cap (6)
23 Attempt to swallow one pound hat? (6)
24 Extraordinary desire to live (6)





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Enjoy.

85 comments:

  1. 8 A Eccentric boor seized the French jacket (6) BOLERO (BOOR*+LE)

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  2. 12 A A lease taken by friend is related to father (8) PARENTAL {PA(RENT)AL}

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    1. i made a mistake initially putting it as paternal and only when i put in bonnet i realised my mistake

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  3. 14A Bewildered pupil in ship makes errors (4-3) SLIP -UPS (PUPIL+SS)*

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  4. 16A Drink made in Potato anag of INPOTATO POTATION

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  5. 21A Humanist carelessly discards Mumbai Indians' debutante cap HUMANIST - MI Anag of Huanst - SUNHAT

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  6. 20A The skirt king swapped for Henry's garment T-S(-K)+H IRT T-SHIRT

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    1. Do we derive T from 'the'?
      Is it a skirt that males wear?

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    3. Learning along the way :) I derived T from 'the' and the definition was for 'garment'

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    4. You're right. t is derived from 'the' and is found in a long list of abbreviations. It is said to be used in 'advanced cryptics' though I wouldn't know in what context we could use 't' for 'the' while writing.

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  7. 17 Girl's cable for underwear (1-6)

    As a boy less than 16 years of age (still a minor, I think) I was wondering - quite innocently, let me assure you, and in coming to grips with the English language - how this apparel got this name. I was trying to imagine how the said letter fitted around the waist of a woman. Any idea about the origins of the word?

    There is the Y-front. I think there is an explanation for that. But for the letter in the solution to the above clue?

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  8. Questions:
    Can 'debutante' indicate two opening letters?
    Why 'debutante' rather than 'debutant'?
    Can 'hat' and 'cap' be interchanged?
    Do we anagram the word 'humanist' and discard MI or discard MI and anagram?

    CV (in a vainly analytical mood, with apologies to the setter)

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  9. Debutante is not for the two opening letters, it's part of the definition. Mumbai Indians by itself can be abbreviated as MI like CSK, RR, KKR etc

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    1. Actually I was a bit unsure of this clue. Had the same opinion as Colonel but later inserted debutante as an afterthought.

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    2. Sorry to persist. What significance 'debutante' has if it is part of the def as the Col says. A sunhat is a sunhat. Do only debutants wear it? Don't experienced people wear it? Sorry if I am exhibiting any ignorance in this.

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    3. Guess I didn't explain properly. Initially I thought that Mumbai Indians will stand for MI by itself. Later a doubt cropped up. So inserted debutante to indicate the leading letters. TIL that it may not suffice.

      Is there a difference between debutant and debutante?

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  10. 27A Old king protects a lady's short dress (8) C{A}{MIS(s)}OLE
    15 D Quiet Asian police officer with black French garment (8) {P}{E}{IG}{NOIR}
    18 D Kiss the French engineers' ornament (8) {NECK}{LA}{CE}

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  11. 5  D Deck boss fancifully with a clothing item (3,5)
    BED SOCKS (DECKBOSS)*
    Der Clothing item

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  12. 7D B lous* e

    Continuing CV's musings. Can Bach mean B like Dorbala meaning D?

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    1. If Dorbala is a famous composer maybe ... On a lighter note ....

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  13. 19D After fall, salesman came back with footwear (7)
    SLIPPER (SLIP)(PER<-)
    Def Footwear

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  14. 23d TRILBY
    28a Bodice
    18d Necklace

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    1. Sorry Annos.
      23d {TR{1}{LB}Y} defn Hat
      28a {OB <- } {dice} defn Women's clothing

      18d withdrawn as already solved @ 11.19 am

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  15. 1 D Returning priest and everyone follow officer on boilersuit (8) CO+VER<- +ALL
    3 D Headgear from German city on stranger's head (6) BONN +ET
    6 D Author ran back right before a hill (8) NAR<- R+A+TOR

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  16. Replies
    1. It was used to denote wearing. Is it wrong?

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    2. I felt 'boiler suit on ...' was correct, rather than '... on boilersuit.'

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  17. 13d COT TE R

    Incidentally, I read somewhere that our friend TE spent some time as a mechanic with the first squadron of RIAF at Karachi

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  18. 9 A After commencement, 1D puts on southern dungarees (8)
    OVERALLS (-C)OVER ALL(+S)
    Def Dungarees

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  19. There is an interesting Comment by Shuchi under Saturday's blog.

    With AD's spl and Sun THC today, the Col's blog on Skull's CWD does not show up on the opening page of THCC.

    Hence this alert.

    Please don't miss reading the late Comments there.

    Any further Comments on the subject, please place under today's Sun THC.

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  20. 26A-
    Def.- Sneaker- Plimsoll
    Vote- Poll
    Returning Mother in law's- LIMS (I have my doubt if it is SLIM?

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    1. I thought that the apostrophe is wrongly placed .. After S it would have made sense.

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    2. Shrikanth. Crossword solvers generally ignore most punctuations as misleading. So it is fine as it is. Besides on surface reading it has to be before the 's'.

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  21. 17A-
    Gridman had a comment on this but did not give out the solution.
    Def.- Underwear- G String
    Girl- G
    Cable- String

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  22. 4D- Def.- Discuss- Consult
    Study- Con
    About Lust- sult

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  23. Nice to be back and taking part! (in time)

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  24. But still the S does not seem to be in place.

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    1. If it was mother in laws'. ?

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    2. Padmanabhan , agreed even then its a not a perfect reversal

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  25. 26 Vote to accept returning mother in law's sneaker (8)
    Vote: POLL returning M-I-L's : MILS<- SLIM.

    Placing inside POLL gives: P(SLIM<-)OLL. [Unless we take it as(M-I-L) as one and 'S as another -:)]

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    1. 26 Vote to accept returning mother in law's second sneaker (8) Looks better.

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    2. Thought of it first. But avoided as it was very similar to 3A

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    3. Also thought 'almost smile' device ...but reversal wasnt faling in plavce.

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  26. 25 Open University not to receive cayenne (6)

    Where is the homophone indicator?

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    1. Sandhya Colonel raised the same question when i sent it.. Its the long list bane.. beresford's

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    2. Receive is a valid homophone indicator. Receive as in receiving a signal

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    3. Receive here is being used as an inserticator

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    4. So it is Deepak. ..........?

      So where is the homophone indicator? OH! The infamous long list, which I had forgotten after NJ days

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  27. 10 a is LEGGINGS LIBERAL L + URGING (EGGING) + SECOND (S) = LEGGINGS
    2 D is WEDGIE MARRIED (WED) SOLDIER (GI) + ENGLISH (E) = WEDGIE
    ajay


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  28. i guess SUN HAT is 2 words....so it should have been clued 3,3
    ajay

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  29. 14A-
    Is slip ups the proper plural of slip up? I put it in as slips up (as a verb) and got the crossings wrong.

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    1. I think slip-ups is the right version for the plural here.

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    2. Slips up without the hyphen is a verb usage. But used as a noun the 's' would come after up. The hyphen is essential for the noun form.

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  30. 25A U {N{KN}OT} KN is the homophone for cayenne.

    Just to finish it off, though probably everybody has the answer

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    1. Hi Suresh am not sure if cayenne is pronounced as KN more like ki-en...so i am not sure whether it works and morever where is the homophone indiactor??
      ajay

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    2. Ajay,

      Ross Beresford's list of abbreviations suggests that there is no need for a homophone indicator. Its an abbreviation. Not used as a homophone.

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  31. Came running to find some unsolved clues and post them, but to my surprise the show was over by 2:07 P.M. itself !! A record of sorts I believe !?

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    1. i thought i would be the one to wind it up just before the 6pm mark :-)

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  32. There are some further Comments under the blog on Skull's CWD.

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  33. Good job, Afterdark !! Apparel maketh a man !! Nicely clothed grid which made every one to wear a smile.

    I reckon, when you compile a theme crossie, you collect all the words and phrases chosen and THEN weave them into the fabric?

    No rags on G-strings from any one? All clothed on modest Victorian style?

    Word of my day: PEIGNOIR

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    1. Raju, to elaborate on themed crosswords, CW software can help in making one easily. However there are limitations in the no of themes. But you can create word-lists on themes that you want and then fill the grid.

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