ACROSS
1 - Attack when as old king is a bit terrified (7) - {AS}{SAUL}{T}
5 - Shocked leader on the street (6) - {AGHA}{ST}
10 - Faith in a syndicate is when engineers take the place of Alan (8) - (-al+re){RELIANCE}
11 - Access a website (6) - PORTAL [DD]
13 - Particle is mostly hidden in the potato (4) - {I(-s)}{OTA}
14 - Realtors go to the wrong figure-caster (10) - ASTROLOGER*
16 - First to monitor now, the bovine kind of disease (3,3) - {M}{AD} {COW}
18 - Yen is acceptable, oh! for the regular oatmeal in the city (8) - {Y}{OK}{OH}{A}{M}{A}
21 - Have a value placed on the tip off a container by an expert (8) - {RATE(-d)}{ABLE} Anno doubtful
22 - Angry athlete will not note the effect of the plant (6) - ALTHEA(-e)* (Correction ALTHEA(-te+a) Don't know how A and EFFECT are related)
1 - Attack when as old king is a bit terrified (7) - {AS}{SAUL}{T}
5 - Shocked leader on the street (6) - {AGHA}{ST}
10 - Faith in a syndicate is when engineers take the place of Alan (8) - (-al+re){RELIANCE}
11 - Access a website (6) - PORTAL [DD]
13 - Particle is mostly hidden in the potato (4) - {I(-s)}{OTA}
14 - Realtors go to the wrong figure-caster (10) - ASTROLOGER*
16 - First to monitor now, the bovine kind of disease (3,3) - {M}{AD} {COW}
18 - Yen is acceptable, oh! for the regular oatmeal in the city (8) - {Y}{OK}{OH}{A}{M}{A}
21 - Have a value placed on the tip off a container by an expert (8) - {RATE(-d)}{ABLE} Anno doubtful
22 - Angry athlete will not note the effect of the plant (6) - ALTHEA(-e)* (Correction ALTHEA(-te+a) Don't know how A and EFFECT are related)
25 - More colourful vessel then transported in Uttar Pradesh (8,2) - {BRIG}{HTEN*} {UP}
27 - Barbie may be an example of this! (4) - DOLL [CD]
30 - Handles the party celebrations (6) - TREATS [DD]
31 - Earmark everything around for the bird lover in the East (8) - {ALL}{O}{CAT}{E}
32 - Accept the TV with the regular style of an Asian (6) - {SET}{T}{L}{E}
33 - Take-over in their position (7) - INHERIT*
DOWN
2 - Decisions that may be made with the blink of an eye (5) - SPLIT [CD]
3 - Boy is accepted by the French name (4) - {A}{LA}{N} NJ's french is improving
4 - See the cuts formed in the wood (6) - {LO}{CUST*}
31 - Earmark everything around for the bird lover in the East (8) - {ALL}{O}{CAT}{E}
32 - Accept the TV with the regular style of an Asian (6) - {SET}{T}{L}{E}
33 - Take-over in their position (7) - INHERIT*
DOWN
2 - Decisions that may be made with the blink of an eye (5) - SPLIT [CD]
3 - Boy is accepted by the French name (4) - {A}{LA}{N} NJ's french is improving
4 - See the cuts formed in the wood (6) - {LO}{CUST*}
6 - Animal sound at midnight is maybe lower lacking energy (5) - {G}{ROWL(-e)*}
7 - One may run around a star for this! (9) - AUTOGRAPH [CD]
8 - Unfinished story has a song about the winged sandals (7) - {TAL(-e)}{ARIA} Had to google search this
9 - Heartlessly set out to resubmit another element (6) - ERBIUM(-st)*
12 - Fix the marriage partner (5) - GROOM [DD]
15 - Artist is ready in the borders of erstwhile Yugoslavia (4) - {GO}{Y}{A}
17 - Somehow terminated out a harmful thing (9) - DETRIMENT(-a)*
19 - Look at the beast when left in the right place (4) - OG(-r+l)LE
20 - Light-footed task force (5) - FLEET [DD]
21 - Allowances for an engineer and a graduate is put up (7) - {RE}{BA}{TES<-} )
23 - Combined everything with one editor (6) - {ALL}{I}{ED}
24 - Completely involved in the foul play covering the line in Norway (4,2) - {FU{L}L O*}{N}
26 - Guesthouse is up-to-date by the sound of the French girl (5) - {HOT}{EL}(~elle)
28 - A large mammal of the giraffe family (5) - OKAPI [E]
29 - Roof is the same on both sides of the mosque (4) - {DO}{M}{E}
Have a value placed on the tip off a container by an expert (8)
ReplyDeleteYou have indicated "Have" as the def.
RATEABLE is that which can be rated or assessed, I think. So I am not sure if even "Have a value" is OK as def for word reqd.
In a clue where the surface reading is poor, what is "placed" on what?
"the tip off a container" suggests (c)RATE
"expert" can give ABLE but not "an expert" for in that case 'expert' is clearly a noun. 'Expert' alone maybe a noun in surface reading but also an adjective giving 'able' in wordplay.
Cluewriting - I mean 'cryptic cluewriting' - is an art and does not come without a sure grip on grammar and idiom of the language.
I did have 'Have a value' as the definition initially, but did not think of (-c)RATE, so I changed it to have.
ReplyDeleteso (-c){RATE}{ABLE} it is
25A - More colourful vessel then transported in Uttar Pradesh (8,2) - BRIGHTEN,UP
ReplyDeleteOnce again the compiler shows a poor grip on grammar. More is a comparative degree so one would expect the answer to have an "ER" somewhere.
At least the clue should read "Make more colourful ..."
22 - Angry athlete will not note the effect of the plant (6) - ALTHEA(-e)*
ReplyDeleteHow does ATHLETE lose TE and gain an A ?
Thanks Bhavan. NJ is making me careless.
ReplyDeleteColonel If you were careful with NJ you would not be able to post by 8.30
ReplyDeleteNice one, Suresh.
ReplyDeleteVoila Eureka and all that. 'a' in the long list stands for effect. So that completes 22A
ReplyDeleteHow to write a clue
ReplyDeleteBreak up a word into two or more components.
Look up each component in the long list for an equivalent.
Put a definition without much care about part of speech and add the equivalents.
Let solvers like Suresh in possession of the long list cry 'Eureka' and 'Voila'.
@Suresh : How does one get hold of such a list ? Search in google for "NJ's imbecile table of absurd equivalents" ?
ReplyDeleteAs a continuation to Chaturvasi's comment 'while other solvers not in possession of the long list, tear out their hair and cry boo-hoo and sob-sob'
ReplyDeleteThanks for the 'compliment'
ReplyDeleteActually I got the list from a link posted on this blog.
This is available free for research purposes from me. Email me at Dorbala@yahoo.com
Here is a totally different perspective.
ReplyDeleteA comment by a solver elsewhere: "I tend not to notice the little points you’ve picked up on. As long as I know what the setter is getting at and he/she knows that I know, that’s all that counts for me!"
That is a neat one Chaturvasi
ReplyDeleteOn that cheerful note we conclude our debate, With no malice aforethought, everything was in the interests of the wordgame and the language.
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