Tuesday, 19 January 2010

No 9743, Tuesday 19 Jan 10, Nita Jaggi

No idea about 17A
ACROSS
4 - An angel protects an adult during a crisis (8) - GUARDI{A}N*
8 - Sit lazily in the living room (6) - LOUNGE [DD]
9 - Care to eat the part of a meal on a running track (10) - {RACE*}{COURSE}
10 - She is trim to be fit without an initial increase in weight (4) - {(-s)HE}{F(-i)T)
11 - Note the time on the message (4) - {ME}{MO}
13 - Recruit an English army leader in the borders of Greece (6) - {ENG}{A}{GE}
15 - Cut short the hard head gear (7) - {HAR(-d)}{NESS}
17 - Empty out the half dry articles in the river (4) - ?T?A
18 - Armoured vehicle in the pond (4) - TANK [DD]
19 - Did apes spoil the rice fields? (7) - PADDIES*
21 - Show off an apartment around United Nations (6) - FLA{UN}T
22 - Free the Democratic leader held by an international organisation (4) - UN{D}O
25 - Tick the new item (4) - MITE*

26 - Go against the princess in an agreement (10) - CONTRA{DI}CT
27 - Chaperone has a tussle at last with the foreigner over a bit of racism (6) - {E}{SCO{R}T}
28 - Expansion of one screen is largely around the centre of the theatre (8) - {I}NCRE{A}SE*
DOWN
1 - Testing stage is in an alphabetical order (5) - ALPHA [T]
2 - Noisy fight in an event gets the unionist in place of an associate (6) - R(-a+u}UFFLE
3 - Fixed time of prayer is decided in Crete (5) - TERCE*
4 - Good introduction of the new Coke mascot in an ad campaign (5) - {G}ECKO*
5 - They aim to capture her in the bright lights (7) - ARC{HER}S
6 - Debtor you heartlessly gag sits pleading for the health professionals (9) - {DR}{U}{G(-a)G}{ISTS*}
7 - Giving a task specifically is up to the soldier covering the Northern borders of Nuremberg (9) - {AS}{SI<-}{G{N}I}{NG}
12 - Enthusiasm of a worker in lowa (5) - {MAN}{IA}
14 - Baby may not see the light of the day (9) - STILLBORN [E]
15 - Soldier will target hub in danger (9) - HAGBUTTER*
16 - Horse is left out at last in a new country (5) - SUD{A}{N} Anno pending
19 - Seat of Punjabi University (7) - PATIALA [E]
20 - Developing agent maid manufactured gets oily every second (6) - AMID*{O}{L}
22 - Join fifteen regularly following the peacekeepers (5) - {UN}{I}{T}{E}
23 - Showers affection on the same Asian bridge players (5) - {DO}T{ES} Where is T from ?
24 - Cash? Maybe kept for small expenses (5) - PETTY [CD]


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39 comments:

  1. SandhyaP19 January 2010 at 08:38

    16DOWN {S(-t)UD}{A}{N}

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  2. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 08:42

    Thanks Sandhya,
    Had a tough time today as my paper came in only at 8 AM and I hate working on the CW looking at it online

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  3. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 08:47

    This is what yesterday's 15D was

    15 - Roof of the orange coloured room (7) - {M}EGARON*

    Any ideas where M comes from ?

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  4. SandhyaP19 January 2010 at 08:51

    17across: {O(-u)T}RA? (a river in Norway)

    empty OUT: OT
    not sure of the RA

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  5. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:02

    I too went upto OT and then was lost.

    As for how M comes in MEGARON, it is from a notorious (and unreliable, considering queries raised here and elsewhere) long list from where the present compiler seems to take help for the bits and pieces they are left with.

    Well, before I consulted that long list I visualised.

    If M is roof, then Y must be catapult, J umbrella, V neckline, I stick...

    Get it?

    The examples are from my imagination and not the list.

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  6. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:03

    J trunk?

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  7. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:04

    O bangle?

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  8. Richard19 January 2010 at 09:04

    Really frustrating to be on tenterhooks because of faulty / misleading clues.


    Richard

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  9. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:05

    C broken bangle?

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  10. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:06

    Q coiled snake?

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  11. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:06

    S love chair?

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  12. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:08

    U gorge?

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  13. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:09

    ww - saw teeth?

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  14. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 09:19

    All the above suggestions for letters are purely from the imagination of Chaturvasi working overtime (as he has no other work to do) and are Copyright Chaturvasi. Any use in crossword clues requires his express permission expressly stated orally or in writing, either electronically or by any other means.

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  15. Suresh19 January 2010 at 09:44

    17A WOULD BE OTTA a river in Norway
    Empty out= OT
    Half dry = T (-T)
    Articles (why in plural is unknown)=A

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  16. Suresh19 January 2010 at 09:48

    There is an M-roof which isa roof formed by joining two parallel gable roofs because it resembles the letter M.
    Refer www.answers.com/topic/m-roof-1

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  17. SandhyaP19 January 2010 at 10:21

    17 across: Is half dry = half of ARid?

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  18. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 10:24

    I dread to imagine what B would allude to in the above list 'copyrighted' by Chaturvasi!!!

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  19. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 10:25

    @Sandhya,
    But how do we reverse it as you had {O(-u)T}{RA}

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  20. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 10:26

    I suppose we will have to wait till tomorrow to see which way the river flows, if at all it is a river

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  21. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:31

    17A SEE my anno for OTTA above.

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  22. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:32

    You will find M roof in Dictionary.com too. So if Boat can be U why can't roof be M

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  23. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 10:35

    @Suresh,
    You are still not clear on the articles !

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  24. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:37

    Colonel. The plural is an expected and normal error in NJ's Cws It should have been article. Then the anno is fine

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  25. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:40

    I am just saying lets not give a dog a bad name and hang him (or her)

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  26. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 10:47

    Suresh
    I reread the comments that I entered above and I don't think I have disapproved the use of M for roof. Have I?
    Some compilers use spectacles for OO but there are also some UK compilers who don't.
    Whether the use of a particular letter or abbreviation for a word is fair or unfair is decided by the compilers themselves.
    But I do stick to my opinion that the long list is unreliable.
    It has t for THE - which the present compiler uses in a clue for which the Col. has a query above, though it is not a new trick that is employed only now.

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  27. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:48

    To answer your question on the articles. I am clear that it is a typo with an 's' where it should not be

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  28. Suresh19 January 2010 at 10:51

    @ Chaturvasi. Re M I did not refer to the long list and only googled M roof.
    While T should not be short for THE here I feel it refers to half dry (TT)

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  29. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 11:24

    @Suresh,
    Chaturvasi is referring to my question mark for the T in 23D and not the T in 17A

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  30. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 11:25

    @Suresh,
    Being a CA (aren't you one) you must be clear on your articles, right ;-)

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  31. Suresh19 January 2010 at 11:33

    Ya :)

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  32. Suresh19 January 2010 at 11:38

    T for Thailand?, Why not Turkey, or Timbucktoo

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  33. Richard19 January 2010 at 11:51

    OMG. what is happening here, a battle of wits or a war of words?

    Richard

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  34. Suresh19 January 2010 at 11:58

    Richrd, Neither. Trying to exceewd the last record of number of comments

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  35. Chaturvasi19 January 2010 at 12:12

    Suresh et al
    Re Empty out the half dry articles in the river (4)
    If a clue is wrong/bad, it's wrong/bad. Period.
    As for how OTTA is derived, we are all agreed that OT is from 'empty out' and, ignoring the 'the', T is from 'half dry' (half of TT).
    Then if A is from 'articles', then, as you say, 'articles' in its plural form, is wrong.
    And any solver can feel offended and can complain.
    Whether the compiler themselves had it or whether the mistake was introduced at the editing stage or remained uncorrected at the editing stage is immaterial.

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  36. Suresh19 January 2010 at 13:39

    @Chaturvasi. Thanks for concluding the discussion

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  37. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 18:14

    Japanese visitor to this blog, please comment in English.

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  38. Suresh M Selvanathan19 January 2010 at 18:49

    @Colonel,

    As it happens always with NJ's compilations, at 18:45 I had completed only 80%. But the point is, I am not enjoying it as I would Gridman or sankalak. When is the next compiler due, please...

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  39. Col_Gopinath19 January 2010 at 20:41

    There will be 7 more with NJ, so it will go on till 27th or 28th if 26th is a holiday for THE HINDU
    You will need to think like NJ (which is wild guessing at times) to complete her CW's

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