Tuesday, 2 September 2014

No 11179, Tuesday 02 Sep 2014, Afterdark


At Afterdark's awesome chemistry class today, though it was never my favourite subject. Trouble in the NE.

 ACROSS
1   Group of organic compounds I took out from Chari's body Ron cremated (11) HYDROCARBON {CHARi+BODY+RON}*
9   After cutting a bit of avocado, apple, raspberry, strawberry, sprinkle garam masala to the mixture (7) AMALGAM {GaraM+MAsALA}*
10 Immobile old man sent out, guards take his place (7) S?S?I?? (Addendum - SESSILE SE(-n+ss)SSILE - See comments)
11 Test century outside, extremely risky (3,2) TRY ON {T{RiskY} ON}
12 Strengthened the mangled iron you fixed inside the barn (9) NOURISHED {NO{U}RI*}{SHED}
13 Gather the animal around mother (5) AMASS {A{MA}SS}
15 Perplexing why we hear Honduras has no water (9) ANHYDROUS {ANH{Y(~why)}DROUS*}
18 Rendezvous saint had with American president made an impression (4,5) DATE STAMP {DATE} {ST}{AM}{P}
21 Idly visualise Isis flying to where Iris is (5) UVEAL VisUALisE*
22 Action initiated by agent with Tom's ally to lose weight and attract girl (9) CATALYSIS {CAT}{ALlY}{SIS}
24 Eat, maybe an young butterfly from the east after a sip of lemonade (3,2) LAP UP {Lemonade}{AP UP<=}
26 Liking pineapples is inherent in an important person (7) KINGPIN [T]
27 Charge model caught in violent unrest (7) ENTRUST {EN{T}RUST*}
28 Rigid medico loses love in a rage (11) DOCTRINAIRE {DOCToR}{IN}{A}{IRE} New word for me

DOWN
1   Scorched earth, lynched leader and had central region (9) HEARTLAND {EARTH*}{Lynched}{AND}
2   Journal has boring wrapper, one article inside (5) DIARY {D{1}{A}RY}
3   Orange juice is consumed by leading Sheriff and Marshals (9) ORGANISES {ORGAN{IS}E*}{Sheriff}
4   Frenzied mania around doctor's compound (7) AMMONIA {AM{MO}NIA*}
5   Bi? Bizarre. Bust him (7) BISMUTH*
6   Japanese ABCD? (5) NISEI [CD] Definition not clear See comments
7   Memory in a corner on the alloy... (8) NICHROME {NICH{ROM}E}
8   ...the first on the element (4) ???D (Addendum - LEAD [DD] - See comments)
14 At sea, Titanic crashed — 99 perished (8) ASTATINE {SEA+TITANic}*
16 Chief has awful trouble, losing king and a pair (9) DOUBLETON {D{TrOUBLE*}ON}
17 Sailor with bad temper shells out money to get gunpowder (9) SALTPETRE {SALT}{TEmPER*}
19 As canister broke, tea spilled out (7) ARSENIC CANIStER*
20 Regret coming back behind ancient chemist (7) PASTEUR {PAST}{EUR<=}
22 Drug, strangle, and take time out (4) COKE ChOKE Time=Hour=H?
23 Wrongly implied, me not fat (5) LIPID ImPLIeD*
25 Physicist's note to be extracted from boiling peanut oil (5) PAULI {PeAnUt+oIL}*

 Cartoon by Rishi

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41 comments:

  1. SandhyaP2 September 2014 at 08:38

    6 Japanese ABCD? (5) NISEI [CD] Definition not clear
    ABCD: American Born Confused Desi

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  2. Unknown2 September 2014 at 08:41

    10 Across sessile? 8 Down Lead

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    1. Deepak Gopinath2 September 2014 at 08:52

      Thanks for the Lead Ajay. I too thought of Sessile but could not annotate it

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    2. SandhyaP2 September 2014 at 08:57

      SE(-n){+SS}ILE

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    3. Deepak Gopinath2 September 2014 at 09:00

      N from?

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    4. Deepak Gopinath2 September 2014 at 09:03

      Also 'Senile' for 'Old Man' is not fair in my opinion

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    5. Deepak Gopinath2 September 2014 at 09:14

      Ok it's Senile = Old. N = Man is available in Chambers CWD dict

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  3. Chaturvasi2 September 2014 at 09:15

    N = knight in chess notation = piece in chess = MAN

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  4. Padmanabhan2 September 2014 at 09:38

    Too many eliminations- favourite of Afterdark?
    AD has gone to Japan with our PM!
    In addition to NE, I had problems in SW too.

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  5. Unknown2 September 2014 at 10:19

    Senile for old man? Not fair.

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  6. ranger2 September 2014 at 10:33

    14 D Excellent clue

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    1. Raghunath2 September 2014 at 10:36

      Right

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    2. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 10:41

      Thank you very much Arden Sir :)

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    3. mohsin2 September 2014 at 12:42

      99 = XCIX

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    4. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 12:48

      Chambers XWD dictionary gives IC Mohsin

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    5. Kishore2 September 2014 at 13:28

      Mohsin had earlier pointed out a similar error on my part using 49 as IL. I am afraid that he is correct, though many setters have fallen for this usage.

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    6. Abhay2 September 2014 at 13:28

      There is a similar issue in the Guardian cryptic today: check the clue for 14D. I think it's fine as long as the variation is in the wordplay and not the definition.

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    7. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 13:48

      Again Chambers XWD dictionary gives IL for 49 ... So, I assume it is an accepted practice

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    8. Kishore2 September 2014 at 13:57

      The last line in
      http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/06/roman-numerals.html
      Reads
      Given that we see so much of IC and IL even in the careful setters' clues, that is perhaps the sensible-liberal way to look at it - but to me it still seems wrong!

      I tend to agree with this line, though I have fallen to this error and might do it again inadvertently ...

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    9. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 14:19

      This is where I get confused. All of us agree Chambers as the last word in these subjects. Colonel told me that the dictionary didn't have N for man, where as the Chambers XWD dictionary has it. Both IC and IL are there too. So, why should it be deemed as unacceptable ?

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    10. Suresh2 September 2014 at 16:48

      As CV explained in his 9:15 N=Knight(chess notation) = man (for chess piece). So it has nothing to do with Chambers or otherwise.

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  7. Raghunath2 September 2014 at 10:35

    Tough to write clues for chemicals and AD has done very well.

    In 1a is 's intrusive in the anagram fodder.

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    1. Abhay2 September 2014 at 12:06

      Re 1a, I don't think the 's is a problem: "Chari's body" ="body of Chari" which is exactly what we need for the clue to work.

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    2. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 14:20

      Thanks Raghu

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    3. VJ2 September 2014 at 15:05

      Nice and interesting puzzle. I thought the greater problem with the clue was the usage of "I took out from.... " for removal of "I." It doesn't seem right IMO. Something more on the lines of "I taken out from..." would've been better cryptic-reading-wise.

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    4. Raghunath2 September 2014 at 18:18

      I too thought on the same lines as VJ did but did not elaborate. We had a similar issue in one of the THC a few days back in Incognito's No 11170

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  8. Abhay2 September 2014 at 12:03

    Thank you for a breathtaking ride, Afterdark! I found that really tough in many parts (Chemistry was never my strong point!), although it all fell into place eventually. Some very good clues in there - 5D, 14D, 15A, 28A...

    I learnt two new words: SESSILE and NISEI. I share the general reservations expressed by others for using "old" to give "senile" - maybe it's just that I am fast becoming the former and hoping not to become the latter! :)

    One small niggle: as far as I know, UVEAL is the adjective for the noun 'uvea', but the definition in the clue ("where Iris is") suggests a noun. Am I missing something here?

    Thanks to DG and Rishi for blog and cartoon!

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    1. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 12:12

      Uveal is the middle layer of the eye, which is where Iris is .. That's how I got it clued.

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    2. Abhay2 September 2014 at 12:15

      Collins, Merriam Webster, and the OED all define the "uvea" as the middle layer, and "uveal" as the adjective form of that noun. Hence my question.

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    3. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 12:50

      OK .. Wikipedia says Uvea , also called as Uveal. But then Wiki is not a trustworthy source at all.

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    4. Kishore2 September 2014 at 14:00

      The following extract from Wiki
      "
      The uvea (Lat. uva, grape), also called the uveal layer, uveal coat, uveal tract, or vascular tunic, is the pigmented middle of the three concentric layers that make up an eye.
      "

      Wiki does not call it "uveal", it calls it "uveal layer", where it is used as an adj. imo, Abhay is correct

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    5. Shrikanth2 September 2014 at 14:20

      OK. I stand corrected.

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  9. Unknown2 September 2014 at 15:07

    .19 - D - I solved it, as ARSENIC. But where is definition?

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    1. Kishore2 September 2014 at 15:21

      The "As". At the beginning is the symbol for Arsenic

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  10. thiru2 September 2014 at 16:26

    Challenging and enjoyable puzzle. In 25d excluded instead of extracted would have been more enjoyable.

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  11. raju umamaheswar2 September 2014 at 17:10

    Afterdark lights up lots of deletions in his cluing.. Conjures up a good chemistry with the slovers. SESSILE is too convoluted to be derived. Albeit, cleverly contrived. AMALGAM was a confusing pot of jam of various fruits.A good raspberry indeed !

    Keep 'em coming AD !

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  12. Balaji2 September 2014 at 17:43

    Super set Shrikant T. Thoroughly enjoyed it. The chemistry clues were great (and easy for me). Some new words learnt SESSILE, DOCTRINAIRE, etc. clues like 23, 25, 5d were great! Managed most except 1-2 in NE corner...

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