Monday, 29 November 2010

No 10011, Monday 29 Nov 10, M Manna

Photographs of S & B II are posted at the THCC Families blog, link to which is on the left hand side panel of this page. Only the group photo is reproduced below (Note - Kishore wearing my famous Red T-Shirt!!!).
Manna has me stumped today at a number of places.
ACROSS
1   - Capital place for some French islanders (7) - AJACCIO [E] Courtesy Google!
5   - Layer tart up in total (7) - {S{TRAT<-}UM}
9   - Right angled military formation displaying power (7) - POTENCE ?
10 - Parts diverging from a centre (7) - RADIALS [CD]
11 - A sale made in the corridor of a train (5) - AISLE* I for A NJ style?
12 - Outcome of interests becoming hackneyed (9) - TRITENESS*
13 - One of the chosen bar, note, a powerful conductor (9) - {ELECT}{ROD}{E}
15 - Closes on direction, then despatches (5) - {S}{ENDS}
16 - Asserted by standing still (5) - POSED [CD]
18 - A health worker may find a trip's the answer (9) - THERAPIST*
21 - Reading between the lines (4,5) - RAIL G?A?E ? I wonder if Manna wanted to put in RAIL GAUGE ?
24 - Be serious at a deadly place (5) - GRAVE [DD]
25 - Ancient coins confused, ie., with dinar (7) - DENARII*
26 - Annoys those who work by themselves (7) - HATTERS ?
27 - She turns out to be a new leader (7) - {DARLE(N)E*}
28 - Continue to make a fuss (5,2) - CARRY ON [DD]
DOWN
1   - Placate a parish priest with ease (7) - {A}{PP}{EASE}
2   - Resolved to tie star for a public performer (7) - ARTISTE*
3   - Joint where top journalist attends musical performance (9) - {CONCERT}{ED}
4   - Vote right to make it public (5) - {OVE(R)T*}
5   - Divination, kind that is to include member (9) - {SORT}{I{LEG}E} New word for me
6   - Girl takes ride on a hill range (5) - {RID{G}E}
7   - Common garage deal done in traffic at home (5-2) - {TRADE}-{IN}
8   - Makes a mess with us with her evil behaviour (7) - {M{I}S{US}ES*} Another I for A !!
14 - Raise coast somehow, or get cut off (9) - OSTRACISE*
15 - Crime perpetrated by real thugs (9) - SLAUGHTER*
16 - Showed off (7) - PARADED [CD]
17 - One goes round to the pub among returning agents (7) - {SP{INN}ER<-}
19 - I am taking a very long time with lines on figurative illustrations (7) - {I'M}{AGE}{RY}
20 - Rebels stone gunners in an attempt to overthrow government (7) - {T{R}E{A}SON*}
22 - Eat too much cheddar, perhaps (5) - GORGE [CD] Why Cheddar ?

23 - The in-charge made out rules of behaviour (5) - {ETH*}{IC}

L to R - Self, Gita Gopinath, Dr D Srenivasan, Catherine Roy (From The HINDU), Bhargav, Chaturvasi, Rajesh, Krishnamurthy, Kishore, Muthaiah, Vinod Raman, Richard, Shuchi.

52 comments:

  1. Weird puzzle today. And cheers for the S&B pics. I hope I can be part of III at least having missed the first two.

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  2. Bhavan,
    Keep us informed of your next trip to India and we can try and schedule the S&B III at that time.

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  3. Richard has sent in some more photographs which I shall add later today

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  4. Thanx for the pix

    21 - Reading between the lines (4,5) - RAIL G?A?E ? I wonder if Manna wanted to put in RAIL GAUGE ?

    I think that fits, 'rail guage' is the reading (measurement) between the lines )tracks)

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  5. Regarding Deepak's top line remark, great to belong the Garibaldi group. Crackers, in more ways than one, and the Red Shirts.

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  6. 22 - Eat too much cheddar, perhaps (5) - GORGE [CD] Why Cheddar ?

    Why not Grand Canyon ?

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  7. Thanks for posting the snap Col.
    Hope I can make it to the next blogger's meet!

    Yup. Today's crossie was tough. Liked SORTILEGE, CONCERTED though...

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  8. @Kishore-0839 - Guage doesn't seem to be the right spelling .

    Noun

    guage

    1. Common misspelling of gauge.


    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/guage

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  9. Great pics! Missed all the fun :((

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  10. Yup DJ, you are right. Then it would not fit with Ostracise... It fitted into the blanks. I guaged/gauged it wrong, mebbe. But was tempting: WYZ types in the IR :-)

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  11. That was snappy, Deepak :-)

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  12. 21 - Reading between the lines (4,5) - RAIL G?A?E ? could be RAIN GUAGE

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  13. Thanks Colonel. I'll be in India between Feb 20 and Mar 6 (break up : Chennai from Feb 21 to 24, Hyderabad on the 28th, rest of the days in Pune).

    It is still early days to talk about S&B-3 much less plan for it, but I appreciate your offer.

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  14. Raghuram @ 0900,
    Even in that the spelling would be GAUGE and not GUAGE

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  15. 9A is from Chambers I guess. Here's the link.

    http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pz2ORay2HWoC&pg=RA2-PA1283&lpg=RA2-PA1283&dq=%22military+formation%22+potence&source=bl&ots=FEcUo88277&sig=fhDIFRGA9x9omlsD-kQyBJvVmbQ&hl=en&ei=_h7zTO3xMYqIvgPng4ybDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22military%20formation%22%20potence&f=false

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  16. 21A: Could it be RAIL GRADE?

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  17. Thanks, for the nice pictures. [bakers dozen!]

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  18. Good findVJ,
    But I wonder why this definition of 'Potence' is not there at any other place on the web

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  19. Potent & Right angled is there in all dictionaries but Potence is not there

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  20. Yep, that's surprising. Maybe it's a very niche word usage.

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  21. That meaning of 'potence' is in Chambers. The link that VJ has given us leads to a page where the word is in a digitised version of the very dictionary.
    So if he or someone else can give just the link to the top/opening page of the dictionary (instead of to a particular word), anyone can save it and use it for looking up any word.
    The word lookup facility on the Chambers website does not have/may not have the dB of the same Red Book.

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  22. CV
    Here's the link to the start of the book http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pz2ORay2HWoC

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  23. CV,
    Please see the book at the link shown below and let me know if this is the actual Chambers? It's selling at Rs 625/-
    http://books.rediff.com/book/ISBN:8186062254

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  24. Hi everyone

    Thank you all guys and gals who made it to the S&B meet II yesterday. It was real fun. I have sent pics clicked by me to everyone's email IDs. If not received, mail me at RLASRADO@GMAIL.COM (all in lower case please).

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  25. Deepak, After going through the photo captions, I find Cocoa is spelt as such. Sorry for cur-tailing it to Coco in the S&B II post.

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  26. Kishore,
    Apologies accepted on Cocoa's behalf, he was happy you didn't de-tail him!!

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  27. That reminds me: Coconut is often misspelt as cocoanut.

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  28. Actually Coconut is what made me assume the spelling was Coco, as he was just one more nutty guy (courtesy the fescue which made him do a burlesque, wagging his curlesque, till mention of PETA came to his rescue) among many others.

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  29. The 'Red T - shirt' comment by colonel reminds me of Rajanikanth's line 'Aana avaru pottirukira chattai ennuthu' from the film Padaiyappa.

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  30. Hi looks like you all had a great time at S&B meet II. Looking forward to read about the coverage in The Hindu soon.

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  31. Bravo Zulu, Colonel.

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  32. Snatching a minute on a busy day. . .

    Deepak

    Re the Chambers dictionary that we reach by following the link that you have given above.

    Yes, it's the very Chambers dictionary that I often mention.

    The ISBN that is there matches with the one on my copy of the dict.

    This is the last Indian less-costly edition printed in our country.

    This is the 10th edition - just one short of the latest edition in the UK, the jacket of which will be red with some words written in large types in some lines on the lower section. This I have not seen in any bookstore in India. (If anyone has seen it any shop in any city, let me know.)

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  33. I may also add that there is no possibility of the Indian associate bringing out a less-costly edition of the latest edition in the UK. That is because the UK company is in the doldrums and is cutting down publications from the Dictionary section. They are least likely to enter into any arrangement with any Indian publisher.

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  34. Some more photographs of the S & B meet can be seen at the following link PHOTOS OF S & B MEET. These photos were taken by Richard and uploaded to Picasa by Vinod

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  35. His boots were too big for me, but the

    Rapid Transport System initially fitted ...

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  36. VJ

    Isn't 16D in your crossword today faulty?

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  37. Just a technical question on 5A.

    Could "up" be used as a reversal indicator for an across clue?

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  38. Sudalaimani, it's an awful mistake. LOL..Thanks for the heads up. If you any clues for the word share it so that I can correct it.

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  39. Never mind VJ. Rare blip in your crosswords from among those I solved. The good thing is I learnt a new word: Persue (noun): Trail of blood, it seems!

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  40. Richard@10:28 Coconut can also be spelt as cocoanut. It is an alternate spelling which is given in my OED preloaded in my computer.

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  41. Kishore @10:13. Did Cocoa notice?

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  42. I frankly do not know, Suresh. But he was quite friendly. Mebbe because of MRTS (not Mass Rapid Transport System).

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  43. Thanks for the pics, Colonel, Richard et. al.

    Chaturvasi, the 11th ed.of the dictionary, from Larousse Kingfisher Chambers, is available here. Would you rate the Chambers higher than a single-volume dictionary from Oxford?



    I have a peeve about 13A: is a bar really a rod? (Topologically, maybe... but can you expect everyone to know that?)

    Wrote STOOD in place of POSED. I know, my answer seems a little repetitious, but I didn't set the clue! :D

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  44. Get set for Neyartha tomorrow & day after

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  45. Navneeth
    Thanks for the link which supplies the imported edition of the 11th edn.

    My advice to you and others would be:

    Unless you are a professional setter or a word enthusiast, don't order this imported UK edition that costs so much.

    Get the Indian edition of the 10th - you will miss very little. (The gap between the two editions is not more than five years.)

    Single vol. Concise Oxford dictionary is good and might do for cryptic crosswords. But Chambers includes Shakespeare, Spenserian, etc. senses of words and includes many Scottish words.

    It is proven today that it was potent for a particular and rare sense of a well-known word.

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  46. The moment Kishore came down to our room to fetch me and CGB to the S&B II meeting, I noticed that he with his red T-shirt was making a statement. But I did not comment.

    I think Deepak with his grey T-shirt too was making a statement. He wore the same for S&B I meeting.

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  47. CV,
    Correction it was Grey for S&B I and Light green for S&B II, no statements were intended by me. I however ensured not to wear Red for S&B II.

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  48. Thanks, Chaturvasi, for the advice on the dictionaries.

    And by the way, the cover displayed at the "official" e-shop contains a large A on red background. And there is a difference of 33 with respect to the page count between the earlier site and this one; however the ISBN at the two places match.

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  49. The absence of flash or the intensity of light from a flash often show colours differently. I should not have made the statement on colours of shirts.
    * * *
    Navneeth: The difference in jacket designs for the UK 11th edition of the Chambers Dictionary is because I think the company - which usually brings out a fresh edition once in five years - once did not do that but instead reprinted it after some years by merely adding some words but not completely revising it. This might explain the difference in page numbers.

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  50. 2 points:

    I hope Deepak did not see red :-). It was just in jest.

    I am colour blind. So, only the really bright colours catch my eye.

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