Thursday, 24 April 2014

No 11067, Thursday 24 Apr 2014, Buzzer



ACROSS
1   Minor point Truman reviewed (11) UNIMPORTANT*
9   Standard book style is to omit introduction (6) BANNER {B}{mANNER}
10 State of Washington carried by right leader (8) DELAWARE {DELA{WA}RE*}
11 Shivering? Let’s put together a fire (5) INGLE [T]
12 New fleet in a river (7) NARMADA {N}{ARMADA}
13 Man-eater is able to nibble say (8) CANNIBAL (~can nibble)
15 Study individual entering bar from the back (4,2) BONE UP {B{ONE} UP<=}
16 Twist in novel evil or otherwise? (6) OLIVER* Wonder if we'll get a mouthful on this ;-)
18 Essentially pages, pencils best for companies (8) AGENCIES {pAGEs}{peNCIls}{bESt} 
20 Girl let out after recurring delay (4,3) TIME LAG {TIME} {LAG}<=
21 Group of singers losing heart to a rocker perhaps (5) CHAIR CH(-o+a)AIR
22 Young lady working in a store (8) SENORITA*
23 Chop stick (6) CLEAVE [DD]
24 Hope broadcast segment is outside ordinary and acceptable to all (2,9) BE AMBITIOUS {BE AM}{BIT}{I{O}{U}S}

DOWN
2   Figure or number horse has on (7) NONAGON {NO}{NAG}{ON}
3   Endeavour from a code inventor (5) MORSE [DD]Endeavour not clear From Inspector Endeavour Morse
4   It is said to include row number (7) ORDINAL [DD] (Addendum - {OR{DIN}AL} - See comments)
5   Allot beer in a way that is satisfactory (9) TOLERABLE*
6   Reportedly nude on rebirth (3,4) NEW DAWN (~nude on)
7   Excellent landlord I say (7,6) CAPITAL LETTER {CAPITAL} {LETTER}
8   Traverse route that’s offbeat to find untapped wealth (8,5) TREASURE TROVE*
14 Be lumberly moving around isle (9) BERYLLIUM {BERYLL{I}UM*}
17 Leave in a hurry with case of vanilla mousse by the sound of it (7) VAMOOSE {VanillA}{MOOSE}(~mousse)
18 A sequence of alphabets written up in a language like Pashtu (7) AFGHANI {A}{FGH}{ANI<=}
19 Selection of mocha, tea usual in a French home (7) CHATEAU [T]
21 Those growing spines take steps to stop corrupt Indian leaders (5) CACTI {C}{ACT}{I}

86 comments:

  1. 3 Endeavour from a code inventor (5) MORSE [DD] ? Endeavour not clear

    Endeavour Morse: character in a TV series. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour_%28TV_series%29)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Funny how setters spot problems in their puzzles mostly after they are published.

      That should have been 'Endeavour for one' although Colin Dexter's creation is more widely known as Inspector Morse.

      Delete
  2. Sandhya has made three endeavours. ;-)

    ReplyDelete
  3. Found it through Google when Sandhya was hitting her four

    ReplyDelete
  4. Oops! Not sure how that happened! Now, I'm unable to delete the comments :(

    ReplyDelete
  5. CW in today's Banged has found another new spot! Bottom left corner of the page today

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yesterday I wrote to the RE saying that the 'downgrading' of the three features put the crossword in an awkward spot as we cannot fold the paper to a pliant quarter page while filling in. Snipping it for saving is also a problem.
      I have no problem with its present corner position but I am not sure if they will be able to maintain it. For the ad level will not be the same every day.
      The previous position of the three features in a straight eight-column format was better - in that other news items could be displayed in any manner in the space left after placing the available ads.

      Delete
    2. We are on a round robin tour!

      Delete
    3. Same here, hitting the rock-bottom level...

      Delete
  6. 4D is OR(DIN)AL, with def = number

    ReplyDelete
  7. 12, 16, 22a - even as I glance at these clues I marvel at smooth surface of the clues.

    Re 7d "Excellent landlord I say". Is there lack of editorial attention here? I mean, did the setter have a comma between 'landlord' and 'I'?
    In fact, if the clue were rewritten as "Excellent landlord, say I" will it have a better effect, as the words are in an emphatic order?
    'Say' in the clue is to be interpreted as 'state' in surface reading and as 'e.g.' in WP.
    All in all, a quality crossword.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I got "letter" very easily, but got the "capital" only after mentally trying out punctuation at different points in the clue. I don't think it's an issue of editorial attention - rather, it looks like some (justifiable!) mischief of the part of the setter.

      Delete
  8. On the easier side today. As usual anagrams are very nicely done. Sujata may appreciate these.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Apologies to Sujata for missing 'h' while spelling out her name.

      Delete
    2. Talking of anagrams...

      While setters can always get anagrams for words/phrases from software (just as solvers can get anagrams the same way), we must remember that the software will throw up only those words that are in the in-built dictionary.
      If the anagram uses a typically Indian word/phrase taht is not found in a standard dictionary, you can be sure that the setter produced it by working out the letters.

      Delete
    3. Oh, am just seeing the crossword now. I kept searching in the paper and totally missed it no thanks to the new position. I even thought of the possibility of no crossword today. Checked again in the evening and found it! Dry day for me. Didn't do well.
      And, it's okay for missing the H. I lived in Delhi for long and got teased a lot for the extra h in my name. I got tired of explaining that I am from Madras and we don't have the multiple t, th, d, dh as in Hindi and that my name is meant to be transliterated from Tamizh to English and not as how Hindi speakers would do it from their language to English. And yet, people used to deliberately pronounce my name with the Hindi tha - as if spitting on me. Gave up explaining after some time. Who formulated these rules anyways? Anand and Anant are written similarly but we know to pronounce them differently. It is just common usage. :-)

      Delete
  9. Very nice puzzle. 22 A my COD. Awesome surface

    ReplyDelete
  10. No one seems to have commented on the new feature on the left hand side - the IPL standings chart.

    Thanks a lot DG.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Kishore commented on the day I put it up

      Delete
    2. I must have missed it.

      Ajeesh, namaskaram

      Delete
    3. I guess Raghu also. There was one more I am sure

      Delete
    4. Though I am a cricket nut I am not a big IPL fan. Dyed-in-the-wool type. I like the longer versions of the game more, and involving nations.
      As luck would have got a clue on the game in the CC 1 on Sunday.

      Delete
    5. Pl read 'as luck would have it'. Perils of posting through mob phone.

      Delete
    6. Actually I have my own spreadsheet to work out the IPL standings. I put this just to crosscheck if my calculations are correct.

      Delete
  11. Joining late after exercising my franchise!
    I am so happy (after yesterday's drubbing) to have achieved 100 % before going out. Enjoyed it immensely.Buzzer always excels in smooth surface reading. Too may good enjoyable clues to list here. a big 'Thank you'.

    ReplyDelete
  12. Can't get enough of Buzzer's puzzle. Top class as usual.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Early morning good turnout for voting at Chennai.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Lovely one from Buzzer. Liked 14d the best.
    Had a question on 24A. Is 'Be ambitious' a valid phrase ?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why not?

      "Be ambitious in whatever you're doing"

      Delete
    2. Can any phrase be used in a grid fill ? For example Can my grid fill have 'Can any' ?

      Delete
    3. Again, why not? Provided of course that you can Define it properly and then frame a clue for it

      Delete
    4. I remember a discussion between Gridman and Bhavan some months on this blog, on the same topic where Gridman justified his use of a phrase which was non-standard.

      Delete
    5. I lost what I wrote before it was uploaded.
      I was going to write exactly what the Col said wrt the first long phrase. I differ from him wrt the second phrase.
      An old, successful man might tell a youngster: "Be ambitious and work hard. You will reach great heights." Even if you tear the words "Be ambitious" out of context, the words in themselves are meaningful. So it sits well in a crossword grid.
      OTOH, 'can any?' doesn't mean anything. "Any of you can't solve this math problem, can any?" - this is OK. But 'can any', to acquire some meaning, needs all the words that go before it. So it is not permissible in the grid.
      (Series of mistakes while posting. Bear with me.)

      Delete
    6. Let me see if I can extract the Bhavan-Gridman discussion ( It would have been easier if it was a Chaturvasi-Buzzer discussion )

      Delete
    7. Let that second example sentence go. For illustrative purposes only. It is not perfect English.

      Delete
    8. http://thehinducrosswordcorner.blogspot.in/2013/10/no-10904-tue-15-oct-2013-gridman.html
      has the discussion and the conclusion there seems to be that idioms can't be altered. But no decision seems to have been reached on phrases that are not found in a dictionary

      Delete
    9. That's correct. I vaguely remembered it was to do with back seat driving.

      Delete
    10. Is 'Be ambitious' a valid phrase ?

      Ramesh, I don't like using phrases that are not in the dictionary. It will open an unwanted can of worms and solvers will be forced to find answers like "I woke up" or "She laughed" or such which might make sense but are meaningless to me if taken as grid entries.

      As for "Hope = Be ambitious", see the entry under verb which is where I took the grid entry from:

      http://www.chambers.co.uk/search.php?query=hope&title=thes

      Delete
    11. For a while I thought you had goofed on this one. But how did you dig out the phrase from the Chambers thesaurus?

      Delete
    12. Bhavan@1:41. Yes that makes sense. So phrases found in dictionary & phrases that appear in synonyms list can be treated as acceptable ones ?

      Delete
    13. +1 to Raghunath's question as to how you dug that one out ? Did the CW software provide it?

      Delete
    14. I meant after the software provided the phrase, how did he work back to the Chamber's page?

      Delete
    15. In Crossword Compiler you can choose from where you want to fill the next word - out of WordWeb, Chambers, Chambers Thesaurus, ODE etc. I found that entry under Chambers Thesaurus.

      Because I knew it was in Chambers Thesaurus, I searched for the same at chambers.co.uk and luckily it was listed, so I could provide the link here.

      ... phrases that appear in synonyms list

      Not sure what were you referring to here, but I stick to Chambers/Chambers Thesaurus/ODE only for the most part. If I include any Indian words, I see if they are there in one of those three or at least if the word/phrase is common enough or has a wikipedia entry.

      Delete
  15. Bingo! Finally I could crack Buzzer's puzzle!! My top CODs are 7Dn followed by 14Dn. 11Ac an excellent 'T' clue. 22Ac smooth surface reading. A top class brain teasing crossy from Buzzer. Thank you very much, Buzzer. :-)))

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. While not taking away anything from your 100% effort, Buzzer was a tad easier today compared to his usual offerings.

      Delete
    2. Nevertheless very interesting and innovative too in some. For me, full house is to be enjoyed,savoured- easy or otherwise.

      Delete
  16. Great time today. Delighted to see a Colin Dexter reference!

    ReplyDelete
  17. Incidentally, the Wikipedia page linked in the blog speaks of Morse as "a fictional character in the eponymous series of detective novels by British author Colin Dexter." Small problem there: none of the novels contain the detective's name in the title (although a couple of short stories - and a collection of stories that includes one of them - do carry his name in the title). It is the TV series that is eponymous.

    ReplyDelete
  18. Who does the cartoons under the name "Ixor"? Good ones, especially since they are produced at such short notice!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The nom de plume is not Ixor but CIXOR.(The letter 'C' goes around there!)

      In Goan Konkani, because of the Portuguese background, 'C' is used in the place of 'k'. 'X' is pronounced as 'sh'. Hence Cixor become 'Kishor' or 'Kishor'.

      Kishore may confirm this.

      And, incidentally, we can trust Kishore to be as distinct and extraordinary as ever.

      Delete
    2. The second sentence in the second para of my post @12:53 above should read "Hence Cixor becomes 'Kishor' or 'Kishore'.

      Delete
    3. http://thehinducrosswordcorner.blogspot.in/2013/10/special-sunday-06-oct-2013-director.html has Kishore's explanation

      Delete
    4. "Cheat company, Edward!" (9)

      Delete
  19. Replies
    1. We had a discussion on this and Kishore had explained how he came up with it.

      Delete
    2. BTW, my post @ 11:32 is in response to Abhay's post @ 11:26

      Delete
  20. 10 State of Washington carried by right leader (8) DELAWARE {DELA{WA}RE*}

    One more novel anagrind - "RIGHT" - in this clue!

    ReplyDelete
  21. Non-convoluted (is that a valid word?) constructs, smooth surfaces and a pinch of sly cluing all made for a satisfactory session of solving the grid.

    Thanks, Bhavan, for your early morning reply in yesterday's post.

    And, Raghunath, I'm glad to have found someone with similar tastes in following cricket. :-)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Cheers Navneeth.

      I'm in the same group as you and Raghu as far as IPL is concerned.

      Delete
    2. Guess we are among the eleven thousand fools who watch/ appreciate the game.

      Delete
    3. IPL is fine to watch post dinner after a tiring day. Help de-stress and sleep well. Because the result is irrelevant.

      Delete
    4. I don't watch second session of night matches. Sleep is more important to me and I get up at 5:30 AM so that I don't miss my daily morning walk/jogging!

      Delete
    5. Exactly!
      Nowadays I don't watch IPL matches but I did see every one of the first edition.
      The atmosphere mattered. The huge hits mattered. The dance by the cheerleaders mattered.
      I used to watch them lying on a mat on the floor and after the late night matches go to bed and fall asleep quickly.
      As Suresh says often you would how the match was going to end.
      As for subsequent editions of IPL I never saw any match except perhaps the final.
      Nowadays the sleep inducer is the notorious TV news debate where the anchor shoots questions non-stop in a loud voice and never allows the guest to put forth any point of view.
      For the past few days I was not only disgusted but had to hold my heart. I might stop viewing that channel.

      Delete
    6. Please ignore typos! You are all clever enough to guess the intent. Not reposting corrected version.
      I don't preview. We could do that if the appearance is the same as in the blog; previewing in existing format is useless.

      Delete
    7. At the risk of being stripped (of my citizenship), I would like to inform all that I do not watch cricket.

      Regarding, typos, CV, I think I spotted one. In the fourth sentence, you wrongly typed it as 'hits'

      Delete
    8. A titbit of 'hits' worth decoding! ;-)

      Delete
  22. 12,13,16a &2,6d nice clues.The matrix brilliantly brings out /ignites the inner spark of the solvers. Lovely CW.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Nice crossword. Except for one hitch:
    In 19D, isn't there need for a grammatical conjunction (like and/or) between mocha and tea? Or can a rule of grammar be waived by a setter in a cryptic clue? Richard or CV may provide guidance on this.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. See this recipe http://www.food.com/recipe/mocha-tea-472696

      Delete
  24. Maybe the comma is unnecessary

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, the comma may serve better in 7Dn before 'I say' as CV had suggested @8:50.

      Delete
  25. Regarding comments about Anu Garg in yesterday's blog, he is presently based in Woodinville, WA.

    ReplyDelete

deepakgita@gmail.com