In this entertainer, Arden seems to have thrown in a few creatures (including a couple of poets) and given a couple of directions - Yes or No?
ACROSS
1 Stop profiting with counter inducement (10,4) BARGAINING CHIP (BAR GAINING CHIP)
10 Two without one is still two (5) TWAIN (TWIN without A)
11 Support two boys as they mature (9) PATRONAGE (PAT RON AGE)
12 He advances by a point, it’s meagre (7) SLENDER (S LENDER)
13 Vice-chairman started before, to be honest (7) SINCERE (Se
14 Stop getting atomic power (5) STEAM (STEM getting A)
16 Spanish saint steeped in sin… it goes on and on (9) INCESSANT (INCES(SAN)T)
The nicest sort of sin?
19 During battle Lawrence almost ran away with a Cladoceron (5,4) WATER FLEA (WA(TE)R FLEd A) Had to Google Cladoceron
20 Place the Spanish will return to with ease (5) LET UP (PUT EL)<
22 Ounce of fat around retired author (7) LEOPARD (LARD around POE<)
25 Order to go away with two fruits (7) MANDATE (MAN
27 Models ran away from fish (3,6) RED SALMON (MODELS RAN)*
28 Land owner put down internal resistance (5) LAIRD (LAID with R)
29 Mischief maker’s heart set in cash transaction (6,8) MONKEY BUSINESS (MON(K)EY BUSINESS)
DOWN
2 Humiliation of living in such a part of building (9) ABASEMENT (A BASEMENT) & LIT
Unless you are 'underground'
3 Try and transplant a gland (5) GONAD (GO AND*)
4 To teach one a lesson, first one should be fair (9) IMPARTIAL (IMPART I A L)
5 Strict usage will contain the attack (5) ICTUS (T)
6 On land mostly dispose of the weeds (9) GROUNDSEL (GROUND SELl)
7 The average person has to throw (5) HEAVE
8 Is it a gift? (7) PRESENT 2
9 Inactivity of East German police on Sunday (6) STASIS (STASI S)
15 Preserve and hand over a boy in setter’s custody (9) MARMALADE (ARM A LAD in ME)
17 Mails can’t convert people with demands (9) CLAIMANTS (MAILS CANT)*
18 They know the risk to perform with universal sign (9) ACTUARIES (ACT U ARIES)
19 It’s very hard for the hunted to chase a hunter (7) WOLFRAM (RAM chasing WOLF)
The answer was at the tip of my tongue. Sten?
21 Bogus claims during work brought up (6) PSEUDO (DUES in OP)<
23 Poet will rise and study (5) OGDEN (GO< DEN)
Some people prefer to gNash their teeth
24 Discharge of French people (5) DEMOB (DE MOB)
26 Direction only to tailor material (5) NYLON (N ONLY*)
Need contributions for Sunday specials. Current stock ZERO
ReplyDeleteWill send Colonel. :)
Delete5 d needs correction
ReplyDeleteThanks, Aries
Delete:)
DeleteYou star in two consecutive clues today -18 and 19 d
DeleteWhat does not escape Kishore's eyes?
DeleteWhat does not tickle Kishore's mind?
Does he ever scratch his head?
Lateral thinking from multiple angles...
DeleteCV Sir 09.10 Only he makes others to do it!
Delete...like me to be inserted before to do it
DeleteI now know why there is nothing much at the top for me!
DeleteIn fact, I was wondering (scratching?) why N in gNash, before seeing the link Ogden
DeletePaddy, do not blame me for status quo ante
Delete:-)
DeleteMy scratching (due to you) has been going on for a while. So strictly it cannot be classified under status quo ante!
I like Poe da in the cartoon
ReplyDeleteAgree that was simply superb multilingual pun. Enjoyed it. thank you.
ReplyDeletePaddy, your samosa is confirmed !
ReplyDeleteI saw it on Saturday itself- thanks to on line solution. Could not wait. But no samosa today!
ReplyDelete13A- Is the hyphen intended?
ReplyDelete10A- Which two is the def.?
ReplyDelete19A- I have a grouse,neither the definition nor the wordplay is easy.
10a looks like both!
Delete19a do you possesa gaming licence? Else, you can be pinched
Grouse?
DeleteGrouse is a game bird as well :)
DeletePaddy is a game bird too
DeleteI thought Paddy was Irish
DeleteLet us check if he prefers Bushmills
DeleteLet me put it this way. I want friends. What they call me is up to them. Five blind men?!
DeleteOne felt the top and said " bowling ball". ;-)
DeleteNot far from the truth.
DeleteHow 2D &lit ?Humiliation not playing any role in wordplay
ReplyDeleteLiving in a basement might be considered infra dig, and as a whole the clue says that
DeleteSo semi &lit ? As the wordplay is just a basement with entire clue as definition.
DeleteA non vegetarian does not mind getting pinched of a grouse!
ReplyDelete19 It’s very hard for the hunted to chase a hunter (7) WOLFRAM (RAM chasing WOLF)
ReplyDeleteSo 'wolfram' is nothing but 'tungsten', a very hard metal! Always learning something new!
Liked the pun 'Poe da'. In restaurants here, we get 'poDi', a delicacy made of slices of breadfruit, raw or ripe bananas or sweet potato, coated with a paste of gram flour or maida, and fried in oil.
ReplyDeleteWould love to hear if other places have their own versions and names.
By the way, I am aware that 'Po-Di' is the feminine form of 'Po-Da' in Tamil and Malayalam. ;-)
DeleteAnd here is the recipe.
DeleteToNNa udda yetta, jibberi laaL devtaa!
DeleteZalyar tel khavche uNe korka paL'la
DeleteArden has just informed me that 7d is a telescopic clue and that his annotation for 13a is SIN C ERE. Accordingly updated above.
ReplyDeleteAnother article with recipe for Breadfruit Fritters, Jeegujje Podi or Devichya Gujyache Podi, a traditional Mangalorean Snack - this one is from Foods & Memories of Mangalore - Ruchik Randhap.
ReplyDeleteAs Richard points out, in Mangalore, 'poDi' means 'fritters or bhajji' as opposed to 'powder' in Tamil Nadu. Breadfruit (Artocarpus altilis) has a taste somewhat akin to potato. A large green fruit, it is also popular as thickly sliced deep-fried chips.
Here is to happy snacking.
UdayavaaNi seems to be getting well oiled!
DeleteI have heard only about 'AAkashvaaNi'. What os 'UdayavaaNi'?
DeleteThe newspaper on which the fritters are displayed, published from Manipal
DeleteThank you Kishore.I had once been a visitor to Mangaore & Udupi while on way to Manipal, but not heard about this.
DeletePaddy, the defn in 5d in the quickie is incorrect
ReplyDeleteKishore@11.53-
DeleteJust checked. You are right. It only gets mixed there and not ignited. If it gets ignited there, engine becomes redundant!
Yes, podi in TN is short form form of 'milagappodi' (translated roughly as chilli powder though it contains lots of dhal varities) a favourite side dish of idli & dosai. Nowadays they give podi dosai in hotels for snack.
ReplyDeleteThe Mangalrean poDi is usually pronounced with an aspirated p, as phoDi, as against the Tamil one where p is unaspirated and pronounced like PoeDi . Its near relative in Kannada is puDi for powder.
DeleteMy 11.57 is in connection with earlier 'podi' chain.
ReplyDeleteKishore's cartoons have to be read carefully and in depth. I am sure, on second reading, some of us would have made the connection between 'red herrings' and (Edgar Allan) Poe (remember 'Poe'-da).
ReplyDeleteIn his very first book 'Murders in the Rue Morgue' (1841) which features detective Dupin, Poe misleads the reader with a red herring (this one concerned the voice of the murderer).
In Jeffrey Archer's 'Twelve Red Herrings', each short story features a twist at the end and relies on a red herring to deceive the reader.
Those investing in stocks and bonds would be familiar with the 'red herrring' prospectus - a a first or preliminary prospectus issued to potential investors which may not have complete particulars on the price and quantum of securities in offer.
Bingo, NR, my day is made!
DeleteWhile giving the meanings of verses like Thiruppavai, Upanyasakars give anyApadesam (what appears on the surface, the literal meaning) and swApadesam (essence that is not evident to the untrained eye, the deep and hidden meanings that lie underneath at several layers). Your cartoons remind me of that concept.
DeleteThiruppavai is recited in Thailand also during Dec–Jan. It was for this Triyampawai or Swing Ceremony, a royal ceremony held in Sukothai, that the 'Giant Swing' was constructed. I have seen this in Bangkok in front of Wat Suthat temple. During coronation of the King of Thailand (Rama), they recite the last two stanzas of Thiruppavai in Tamil!
Thank you NR. So happy to read about Thiruppavai's reach. A flood of information.What does 'wat' indicate in Thai language? We have heard of 'Angkor Wat' temple.
DeleteA wat is a monastery or temple. This word is commonly used in Thailand, Cambodia and Laos.
DeleteIn Cambodia (in late 1970s and 1980s, it was
Kampuchea, which derives from the Sanskrit word Kambujadeśa or land of Kambuja*), a wat refers to all kinds of places of worship. Angkor Wat means 'city of temples'.
[*Kambu/ja - the descendents of Kambu, an Indian sage who married a naga princess named Mera in Indochina]
Thank you for the reply & references. Looks like Indian influence in temples,worship and language was very great in the far eastern countries in those times. Interesting.
DeleteNot only Kishore's cartoon, but most of his replies also contain puzzles & red herrings.
ReplyDeleteBTW, red herring is a word I have come across fairly frequently in Perry Mason mysteries.
A good workout overall - thank you, Arden!
ReplyDeleteA small quibble, though, re. 23: if a poet's first name is being used, surely that should be indicated somewhere, since standard practice is to refer to poets by their last names.
I was convinced the answer to 23 was Auden, and kept looking for ways to make "au" fit the "will rise" part of the clue. Of course, this also led to untold difficulty with getting 22, because I had the crosses in as "L_A_A_D"! (In any case, I wouldn't have got it because I didn't know that ounce was a term for leopard.)
They are telecasting the funeral rites of the slain Army officer, LIVE on Sun News.
ReplyDeleteMay his soul rest in peace.
Prof Nadatur @ 12 04 - We will be much obliged if we could receive such 'Konar notes' daily to appreciate more of K's cartoon
ReplyDeleteKishore,
ReplyDeleteAbout 5D in quickie, interestingly the original clue in Guardian reads-" Where fuel is mixed with air in a petrol engine (11)
I hope TH is not carrying its typo in the syndicated puzzles also. Or the clue has since been corrected in the Guardian? Again it brings us to the question- if Guardian listens to its readers and correccts errors, why does not TH even mention it?
That, certainly, is curious!
DeleteThat is certainly not a typo
DeleteCV Sir @ 9:10 "What does not escape Kishore's eyes?"
ReplyDeleteWell, he missed 7Dn "T" clue! So are many others!! 7Dn could be rated as top 'Telescopic' clue. Thanks Arden for pointing it.
I, indubitably, did!
DeleteInstead of scratching my head, straightaway I took out my OED and got your intended message! :)
Deleteand I like your subtle ways of pointing out grammatical mistakes! :)
DeleteFor all of you who have been wondering what K said at 12:03 and 12:04
ReplyDeleteLoosely translated from Konkani, it goes like this:''The mouth is watering, tongue is getting wet. But what can be done, the intake of oil is to be checked..."
Not to take away from your excellent translation, I'd prefer slavering insteas of wet.
DeleteYep. That sounds better.
DeleteThe 'Poe Da' discussion also reminded me of the Tamil song
ReplyDeleteponaal pogaTTum poDa - indha bhoomiyil nilaiyaay vaazhndhavar yaaraDaa? from the 1961 Sivaji Ganesan-B Saroja Devi-starrer Paalum pazhamum.
Credits: Lyrics - KaNNadasan, music - M S Viswanathan and vocal - T M Soundhararajan
Listen to it here.
The 1968 Hindi re-make Saathi had Rajendra Kumar, Vyjayanthimala and Simi Grewal in the cast. It had some memorable songs set to music by Naushad.
Thanks for reminding about the one time great picture & song.
DeleteIn a recent Tamil film song poda-podi occurs iteratively.
DeleteSorry, can't recall like I can the old film songs such as the one mentioned above.
Ram might help!
See the similarity btn Tamil and Telugu : "Ponaal Pogattum Poda" = "Pothe Ponee Pora"
DeleteKishore,
ReplyDeletewe have a Doppleganger in today's AWAD with an interesting picture of Tintin.
Quiff!
DeleteThe Yes or no? Question tag?
ReplyDeleteQuestion tag? You mean the look on his face?
ReplyDeleteThe 2012 Tamil Movie, Poda Podi, stars DR's son Silambarasan 'Simbu' and Varalaxmi (D/o Sarathkumar). The director is Vignesh Shiva.
ReplyDelete23 Poet will rise and study (5) OGDEN (GO< DEN)
ReplyDeletewill rise = go up = GO<= (UP in a Down clue is Reversal Indicator) = OG
study = DEN
Defn: poet (OG)(DEN) Ogden Nash, the poet known for his light verse. Nice clueing.
Good clue alright, and I got it right (after the detour mentioned in my earlier post), but I maintain my point that there should have been some indication that it was a poet's first name that was being clued. If the poet mentioned were Robert, Dylan, or William, I would expect to see some indication that we were talking about Frost, Thomas, or Blake. Why not for Ogden Nash, then?
DeleteHis verses can be sampled HERE. One of my favourites is I Do, I Will, I Have.
DeleteAbhay,
DeleteYou might have a point there. Had 'Comic' or 'humorous' been added before 'poet', it would have made it easy.
It still will not point to the first name.
DeleteHow many poets have you heard of who have a name like Ogden?
DeleteIt is not a name like John which can be confusing.
Abhay,
DeleteWhat would you suggest if the poet's name happened to be Thomas John ?
But when we refer it's usually the surname like Poe, Keats, Wordsworth , Bond, etc. First name is referred only when indicated.
DeleteThe question is: Why only those two options have been used "Yes" and "No.
ReplyDeleteIs this your 'mathematical' response to 10 Across -Two without one is still two?
DeleteNope, the ref is to the previous words - 2 directions:
Deletein 12 across: S = Yes
in 26 down: N = No
The statement is also TRUE in another way.
ReplyDeleteTwo without one is still two TW[-a]IN (TWAIN without A)
'Without' works both as a Containment Indicator and as a Deletion Indicator.
His occupation as a steamboat pilot gave Samuel Langhorne Clemens his pen name, Mark Twain; "mark twain" is the cry for a measured river depth of two fathoms (12 feet). Born two weeks after a visit by Halley's Comet, he had predicted that he would "go out with it". His death occurred on the day after the comet's subsequent return.