Tuesday 29 April 2014

No 11071, Tuesday 29 Apr 2014, Arden


Delightful offering from Arden.

ACROSS
1   Cracked jokes about President in capital (6) SKOPJE {SKO{P}JE*}
4   Places to look for a word, perhaps (8) CHAMBERS [DD]
9   Reverberation among three chords (2-4) RE-ECHO [T]
10 Appeal for admission (8) ENTRANCE [DD]
12 I rave about our arrangement for so long (2,6) AU REVOIR*
13 Another phrase for an angel (6) SERAPH*
15 Getting her in trouble for pacifying the baby (8,4) TEETHING RING*
18 Control panels replace tables (12) SWITCHBOARDS {SWITCH}{BOARDS}
21 Conforms to a day suitable for school (6) ADAPTS {A}{D}{APT}{S}
22 Adding fibre to food with flourish (8) BRANDISH {BRAN}{DISH}
24 “Cut risk and monopolize” — said a bore (8) HEDGEHOG {HEDGE}{HOG}
25 A spruce outside university courtyard (6) ATRIUM {A}{TRI{U}M}
26 Bird wants me to play around centre court (4,4) MUTE SWAN {M{U}TE SWAN*}
27 European city’s revival is mired in grave negligence (6) GENEVA [T<=]

DOWN
1   Workers mostly help workers (8) SERVANTS {SERVe}{ANTS}
2 & 20 dn. Individual carrying a gun said to have stopped this game of chance (3-5,6) ONE-ARMED BANDIT {ONE}-{ARMED} {BANDIT}(~banned it)
3   With his faith he made those Jews vanish (8,7) JEHOVAH'S WITNESS*
5   Straight? No way, make it sharp (4) HONE HONEst
6   She offered cake and biscuits for a troubled nation, contents of the letter show (5,10) MARIE ANTOINETTE {MARIE} {NATION*}{lETTEr}

7   Nina from Carolina (6) ENNEAD [GK]
8   Article under watch will make you hot under the collar (6) SEETHE {SEE}{THE}
11 Fuel makes oil finally catch fire (7) LIGNITE {oiL}{IGNITE}
14 You get fruits or vegetable here (7) ORCHARD {OR}{CHARD} Semi&lit
16 Cunning and skill provided diamonds (8) ARTIFICE {ART}{IF}{ICE}
17 With reduced blood supply lives with spies across border (8) ISCHEMIA {IS}{C{HEM}IA}
19 Understand it’s huge unfinished accommodation (6) FATHOM {FAT}{HOMe}
23 Artist, unknown in a state (4) GOYA {GO{Y}A}

38 comments:

  1. 7d I had not heard of this earlier. Just thought of Bhavan's daughter though she still too young for 15a I suppose

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    1. Nina from Carolina:I had not heard the phrase before. What is its origin?

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    2. CV,

      This is a term which comes from gambling. I checked on the internet and found that is associated with craps (in Casinos in the Wild West). While betting that the next roll of the two dice will together give the total sum of 9, they call it variously as "centerfield nine", "railroad nine", "Jesse James" (the outlaw Jesse James was killed by a .45 calibre pistol), "Nina from Pasadena", "Nina at the Marina", and "Nina from Carolina". Another term popular was "Nina, Nina. You should have seena in the back of my Cortina".

      More details on craps can be accessed HERE.

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  2. OT
    Padmanabhan/Kishore
    What is the original serial number of The Guardian Quick crossword if one wants to do the same as that is published in the local paper today, interactively on the original site?
    I traced the one yesterday and saw the edited version of Clue for carburettor on TG site.
    But the time-lag, number difference I am yet to figure out.

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    1. Since TH quickie 11503/23.4.14 is same as TG 13640/27.1.14 and THQ 11506/26.4.14 is same asTG 13643/30.1.14, I presume the time gap is about 6 months and one can arrive at tTG numbering byadding 2137 to TH number

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    2. I don't do 'quickies' But tried this with fair amount of success in a short time.
      16d: MISJUDGE? ILL-JUDGE?
      If the answer is PREJUDGE, is the clue fair?

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    3. Kishore/ CV,
      I did not make out any formula like that. It should be correct since both are regularly serialised. I get it from 'The guardian quick CW' site by adding one of the clues of the day.

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    4. Prejudge is perfectly correct for 'making up one's mind without evidence' IMO. Our politicians and media are experts at that. Courts and investigators my take ages, but these 'experts' do it very fast.

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    5. I think so too. BTW, the correct answer (according to Guardian) IS 'Prejudge". For today's CW the Guardian S. No. is 13645.

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    6. Kishore, ....I presume the time gap is about 6 months ...
      The examples given show a gap of about 3 months only (TH 23.4.14 same as TG 27.1.14 and TH 26.4.14 same as TG 30.1.14).

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  3. 24 “Cut risk and monopolize” — said a bore (8) HEDGEHOG {HEDGE}{HOG}

    I took BORE to be ~ BOAR

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    1. But a Boar is not related to a Hedgehog, is it?

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    2. One of those clues where the def is cryptic - here it is homophone.
      The WP is charade - hedge/hog
      I happened to write a similar clue recently but I don't remember if I retained it in the final version. In any case, it is some five or six months before it might be printed.
      I think I saw the device in a clue in a recent UK crossword.

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    3. I took it like this:

      Cut risk and monopolize said - hedge+hog
      A bore- one who bores - defn= hedgehog

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    4. Said as in pronounced together

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    5. One who bores would be 'a borer' and not 'a bore'

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    6. When I bore people, I am called a bore ;-)

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    7. @Kishore: Your analysis seems right.
      A male hedgehog is called a boar, so I thought it may be a ~.

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    8. My 907 is the clincher, beyond dispute ;-)

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    9. Axshually, Sandy, your anno is better

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    10. Hedging is avoiding/ lessening of risks, isn't it? This is used generally in the stock market & betting.So
      Cut risk- Hedge
      Monopolize- hog (as in hogging the limelight)
      Bore- We use both 'It is a bore' & 'He is a bore'.

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    11. and in foreign exchange also

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  4. 'Marie' for a biscuit? Trade name?

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    1. It is a generic name for that kind of biscuit. That is why we do not have a brand infringement suit though the name is used by several manufacturers

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  5. Given that Jehovah's Witnesses are among the best-known proselytising faiths, I see 3 as at least partially &lit!

    The clueing for 7 is too obscure for me. The crosses suggested ennead, but I had to google it to see that Nina from Carolina is listed as a synonym on many sites, although I couldn't find any source that explained the rationale/origin.

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    1. Origin of this phrase is from betting done in CRAPS. The thread on Kishore's opening post has the details.

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    2. The Ennead (denoting a group of nine) was a group of nine deities in Egyptian mythology.

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  6. Re. 23: It is one of the most straight-forward clues I have ever seen, but I got stuck for a short while simply because I kept looking for abbreviations for an American state that would fit! (That's the problem with doing too many crosswords by Western setters, I guess.) It was only once HEDGEHOG fell into place that the artist's name - and the state - jumped out.

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  7. Great creat9ive crossie by Arden.

    MY parse for HEDGEHOG: “Cut risk and monopolize” — said a bore (8)---- cut risk-- hedge (as in stock exchange parlance) monopolize--as in what I do sometimes in this blog !- Said a bore -phonetic bore or boar-- HEDGEHOG.

    TEETHING RING SWITCHBOARDS and CHAMBERS are gems of clues in my HU_OP

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  8. KISHORE'S COMMENT YESTERDAY

    The Mangalrean poDi is usually pronounced with an aspirated p, as phoDi, as against the Tamil one where p is unaspirated and pronounced like PoeDi . Its near relative in Kannada is puDi for powder.

    I wonder why Mangaloreans swap p for ph and fa to p !! I had a friend Who used to pronounce Preference as freperence , So I used to call him Fayyar though his name was Payyar- a mangalorean.

    Similarly, Haalu haal hagi hoyittu !! The milk has gone curdled !~~ used to tickle me piink when
    Kannadigas speak. and my wife was badffled when asked " do you want HOO? meaning a flower veni by her aunt. !!

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  9. CV Sir - Yesterday 2 50 pm - With regard to new songs I am sailing in the same boat with you. An old song - I think it was Jaishankar's - Male: Sarithan Podi Vaayaadi Sandaikku neeyo sarijodi
    Female: Ada Sarithan Poyya sidumoonchi sirithaal pothum azhumoonthi...

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  10. Typo azhumoonchi for the last word

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  11. Today's Guardian Quick in DC is the same as the original 13510 published in Aug 2013 (date uncertain as there is discrepancy between two in two places).

    When two newspapers from the same country/region ask for publishing arrangement, the series are distanced from each other so that no same puzzle appears in two different papers.

    The DC carries no serial number.

    Collectors will find it difficult to match grid with solution unless they note down the dates on the clippings.

    Didn't I say that when it comes to printing crosswords few newspapers are solver-friendly.

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  12. Logging in late today.

    Raju @ 12:55

    The poDa-poDi exchange, which I cast the first stone at yesterday, refuses to die down apparently.

    The first syllable in pODi / phODi, meant as a delicacy, is a longer one. The poDi in Tamil has the shorter first syllable. As Kishore pointed out it has the Kannada equivalent of puDi, in the sense of powder or any pulverized stuff.

    And as for your sweeping comment on swapping of 'p' and 'ph' by 'Mangaloreans', it is extremely difficult to believe that you have come across an enormously large number of people from our region to arrive at that conclusion. But for a few exceptions, I have not come across people following that practice or habit in any discernible way.

    The Mangaloreans consist of not a single faith or culture. They form a region, inhabited by Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Jains, Lingayats, Buddhists and other communities who follow different creeds and traditions.

    There are different shades of Kannada, different shades of Tulu, Malayalam, Beary, Konkani, Marathi and other dialects being spoken here. Each language has its own share of influence on the way English or Hindi is being spoken. (Any person tends to pick up at least four languages from childhood - school or no school!) That is what makes this place unique.

    One cannot brand the whole populace with a single stroke of a pen or dash of the mouse.

    Re haalu (हालु) turning haaLu (हाळु) in Kannada, the second characters are different.

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    1. Thanks, Richard. No offence meant to any language the way it is spoken. That;s the beauty of this country and we make a diverse happy nation enjoying everything that's good and laughing at ourselves too, at the same time !!

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  13. 23D - Kishore with his years of stay in Goa may have remembered the song Goyake chunanche from the movie Manoranjan.

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    1. Delightful movie with Sanjeev Kumar and Zeenat Aman, a remake of Irma La Duce which starred Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine.

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