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5 Determined in advance to have soft trees felled (6) PRESET {P}{TREES*}
9 Non-liability of one politician’s factory having extreme
irresponsibility (8) IMPUNITY {1}{MP}{UNIT}{Y}
10 Hands-up time? (6) TWELVE [CD]
12 Pitcher, more recent, loses head (4) EWER nEWER
13 Hot Poles in roll for a kind of biscuit (6,4) BRANDY SNAP Not sure if this is right. Anno pending (Addendum - {B{RANDY} {SN}AP} - See comments)
15 Servant briefly takes one’s travelling bag (6) VALISE {VAL{1'S}Et}
17 Straightens the woman with partners (5) EVENS {EVE}{NS}
20 Alien after one month gets a singing group (5) OCTET {OCT}{ET}
21 No outstanding demonstrations by workers (3-3) SIT-INS [CD]
24 Advert Naga created is unconventional (5-5) AVANT-GARDE*
27 Inviting word (4) COME [CD]
29 Prepare principal turf (6) DOMAIN {DO}{MAIN}
30 Trip backward leader abandoned for you and me sparks discussion
(8) EXCURSUS {EXCURS(ion<=)}{US} New word for me
31 Separate queen’s present (6) RENDER {REND}{ER}
32 Ben lined up sheets and pillowcases (3,5) BED LINEN*
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2 Fruit time in Java? (6) APPLET {APPLE}{T}
3 One might break into it for a small amount (4) SONG [DD]
4 Look closely around treasurer’s top safe (5) PETER {PE{T}ER} Never knew this meaning.
6 Rough word on young lawless fellow (5) ROWDY {WORD*}{Y}
7 Therefore one coming ashore gets box that looks like a book
(8) SOLANDER {SO}{LANDER}
8 Go over a boundary and cause shock across health centre (8) TRESPASS {TRE{SPA}SS}
11 Place face of Rosie in blown-up detail (6) INSERT {INSE{R}T}
14 Seasoning for sailor? (4) SALT [DD]
16 A sort of strain in insect stage (6) INSTAR*
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17 English worker going up Sicilian mountain (4) ETNA {E}{TNA<=}
18 Think about mother’s source of perfume (8) POMANDER {PO{MA}NDER}
19 Person of no substance wants arm twisted (8) STRAWMAN*
22 Firm’s primarily unjust wrong to relative (6) COUSIN {CO}{U}{SIN}
23 Hold Mandela? (6) NELSON [DD]
25 Brit dispersed extremely hostile group of natives (5) TRIBE {BRIT*}{E}
26 Expire holding team’s camp-kettle (5) DIXIE {DI{XI}E}
28 Brood over fabric? (4) MULL [DD]
13a Hot poles in roll for a kind of biscuit
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Poles=sn
In =insertion indicator
Roll (bread) =bap
A kind of biscuit=def
B(RANDY SN)AP
4D Haven’t you heard of robbing Peter to pay Paul ? ;-)
ReplyDelete13 Hot Poles in roll for a kind of biscuit (6,4) B{RANDY} {S}{N}AP - a popular snack or dessert food
Hot RANDY
poles S,N
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roll BAP
1A Thanks for the diagram, Deepak. So helpful for a not-so-frightfully practising Christian like me.
ReplyDeleteI think what you mean is: you don't love your neighbour ... ;-)
DeleteCome forth with your stock of Konkani spoonerisms so that I can add them to stock
The diagram would not help you if the Rev. asked you to meet him in the vestry
DeleteNot here, brother. It'll be injustice to those who might miss the flavour. :-)
DeleteYou can mail it to me.TIA
DeleteRe AISLE, a part of the church, shown in the diagram for 1 Across.
DeleteWould like to share what I said recently while raising the toast at a wedding.
As the bride enters the church on her wedding day, first she sees the AISLE, then the ALTAR and finally, HIM, the bridegroom.
AISLE, ALTAR and HIM - in that order.
And, there, on the spot, she decides: I'LL ALTER HIM...
Hear ! Hear ! From a chap who has been altered
DeleteIs she Aussie?
Delete8 Go over a boundary and cause shock across health centre (8) TRESPASS {TRE{SPA}SS}
ReplyDeleteIs the usage alright grammatically: Cause shock, Cause TRESS? What's role of shock?
Re: PETER / safe: Go to: http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2012/10/peter-is-safe.html.
a shock of hair...
Deleteis a tress
I know that, but had a doubt about it being used in that manner.
DeleteIt means that cause shock: TRESS?
Deletecause shock across health centre
Deletewould mean
put shock (i.e. tress) across(around) spa (health centre)
Richard
ReplyDeleteI know that when Mr X and Miss Y walk down the aisle, they marry.
Now, where is the aisle? In the diagram it's not the central passage.
Is the central aisle also called a nave? What exactly is a nave? FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHERE IS THE AISLE?
I want to be sure when I walk with a woman into a church. I just now learnt from an ad on Yahoo as to what I should do "to get proposals like this in my inbox". Those girls are lovely, by the way.
You have a point there, CV. The aisle is on the left-hand side as you enter.
DeleteLet me make a guess. The phrase 'walking down the aisle' does not appear to hold water in modern times since the current practice is to enter from the maina entrance. It is possible that in the olden days, the bridal couple used to enter from the left-hand side, down the aisle.
Just a potshot. Not sure about it.
CV @9:14 - Regarding the last para, all I can say is - you have good tastes.
DeleteAfter research:
ReplyDeleteNave is "the long central part of a church where people sit".
So the passage on which the term 'nave' is marked in the diagram is also an aisle and I can imagine a man and a woman followed by the retinue walking down that passage to the altar.
The whole area where people sit is nave. It is marked in an inapt way in the diagram.
Sorry, folks!
ReplyDeleteOn further browsing, I find I could be wrong.
Many church diagrams show only side passages as 'aisles'.
Whether the central passage dividing the seats is also called aisle and whether the couple walk down this, I am not sure.
However, in films we see couple walking up the central passage, no?
Richard, please do talk to some priests and let's know. No hurry!
2 the side part of the inside of a church... from Chambers
Deleteaisle noun
Delete1 a passage between rows of seats, eg in an aircraft, theatre, or church.
2 the side part of the inside of a church.
Thanks, Raghunath.
ReplyDeleteThe confusion is clearing up slowly.
In a church, an aisle is "a side division of the nave or other part of a church or similar building, generally separated off by pillars;"
However, in those days when I used to go the cinema I always got an aisle seat. Chambers has: "a passage between rows of seats eg in an aircraft, theatre, cinema, etc;"
This is as per Wikipedia and it should put matters to rest
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An aisle is, in general (common), a space for walking with rows of seats on both sides or with rows of seats on one side and a wall on the other. Aisles can be seen in airplanes, certain types of buildings, such as churches, cathedrals, synagogues, meeting halls, parliaments and legislatures, courtrooms, theatres, and in certain types of passenger vehicles.
Aisles can also be seen in shops, warehouses, and factories, where rather than seats, they have shelving to either side. In warehouses and factories, aisles may consist of storage pallets, and in factories, aisles may separate work areas. In health clubs, exercise equipment is normally arranged in aisles.
Aisles are distinguished from corridors, hallways, walkways, footpaths/pavements (American English sidewalks), trails, paths and (enclosed) "open areas".
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Going up the aisle is a rather naive action on the part of couples
ReplyDeleteI rememer mention of a caption below a photo:
The bride and the broom coming out of the church after marriage.
She must have swept him off his feet.
U mean the groom was missing in the photo !?
DeleteThe bride and no good groom coming after Bishop out of the church after marriage?
Delete:-)
DeleteIt was a typo on part of te paper that hadbgot past the proofreader
Ewer, valise, peter, solander, dixie...
ReplyDeleteWas Gridman listing containers ? Or cooking something with dixie, salt, brandy etc. to keeo on the trivat ?
Pardon me, that was keep on the trivet
Delete2D - Is the definition enough? An applet is an application that runs within the main program and not always it has to be Java. Though the term is always associated with Java. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteCV has raised an interesting issue. The word 'aisle' comes from aile the French for a wing, so it originally meant something on the side.
ReplyDeleteChurches, like the one shown in the diagram selected by Col, have two aisles (on the sides). In such churches, during wedding ceremony, the left aisle is the "bride's aisle" and the right aisle is the "groom's aisle". The bride walks down the left aisle (escorted by her father and the bridesmaid) to meet her groom at the front of the church. After the ceremony, the couple exit up the groom's aisle during the recessional.
What is mistaken for the aisle in the above discussion is, in fact, the ‘central walkway’; down this we are used to see the bride walking in films.
However, this is often referred to loosely as an aisle. People call a church with a central walkway and two (side) aisles as a church with three aisles! This is one of those inaccuracies which has come to stay.
Thank you, Rajan, for your explanation. Now the doubts are cleared up.
ReplyDeleteRajan,
DeleteThe 'central walkway' when provided in a church is definitely an aisle. The diagram I have shown above has 4 aisles, one between the nave and the columns and the other between the columns and the wall so also on the other side making a total of 4.
The explanation given by you is applicable only when there are only 2/4 aisles as shown in the diagram above.
3 Dn SONG [DD]
ReplyDeleteThe phrase "going for a song' indicates that something of great value is available for a mere fraction of its true worth. The expression's origin was clearly different and opposite to its present day usage.
Edmund Spenser wrote "The Faerie Queen" to honour Queen Elizabeth I. Never one to turn her back on flattery, she ordered that his effort be honoured in return with £100, an enormous sum in the 1590s.
On hearing about the Queen's wish, William Cecil (the Lord High Treasurer) exclaimed, " What all this for a song?". His remark was widely repeated and went into common usage meaning a high payment for something of low value.
Over time, the term became shortened and overturned in meaning!
Does it take nine years for one to master crossword solving?
ReplyDeleteRead the article in a UK paper:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349277/Nine-years-master-cryptic-crosswords-How-solving-brainteasers-similar-learning-musical-instrument.html
The researcher elsewhere says the results are yet to be published officially; she did not know how this report was published.
She also says there is a real news article in The Times - but I don't have access to it.
Something I always expect from solving Gridman's crossies: learning new words. Quite a few of them today!
ReplyDeleteRe: the whole Aisle thing, there was a question about this is in the British comedy panel quiz show QI. (Any fans here?) Wiki tells me that it's from the second episode in its history (look under "General Ignornace"). YouTube contains all episodes, if you're interested.
AfterDark,
The clue ended with a QM, so the setter was trying to connect the Java applet to 'Fruit time', and not to applets in general.
Dr. Kathryn Friedlander and Dr Philip Fine at the University of Buckingham have investigated
ReplyDeletethe cognitive skills, motivation and development of expertise in the domain of cryptic crossword solving.
Initially, they conducted on-line survey from May 2007 until December 2008, (paper copies were also available) to which 256 people responded. Their findings are reported in www.crossword.org.uk/Survey.doc
In 2010/11, they invited a number of crossword solvers to participate in recorded trials, during which they solved a cryptic crossword while commenting on their progress out loud. This crossword has now been published in the Independent newspaper as 'Cryptic Crossword #7385 by Phi'.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/QDBJNQK
Continuing from y/day:
ReplyDelete13 Hot poles in roll for a kind of biscuit (6,4) B(RANDY SN)AP
Hot poles said Spooner looking at pitted road (3,5)
Very familar to Bangaloreans. I know them for a period longer than I know anyone on this forum.
DeleteHyderabad is no different.
ReplyDeleteDoes it take nine years for one to master crossword solving?
ReplyDeleteThanks CV for this article. One more item for my memorabilia ..