Monday, 15 August 2011

No 10233, Monday 15 Aug 11, Arden


INDEPENDENCE DAY GREETINGS

ACROSS
1   - The odd bet Marianne placed in the slot machine (3-5,6) - ONE-ARMED BANDIT*
10 - It is hard to set up identity (5) - RIGID {RIG}{ID}
11 - Metal worker past fifty, shows human resolve (9) - LANTHANUM {L}{ANT}{HANUM*}
12 - Frenzied feeding is not genuine (7) - FEIGNED*
13 - Facial feature seen when a noble gets knighthood (7) - EARLOBE {EARL}{OBE}
14 - Surrender the dividend (5) - YIELD [DD]
16 - The carthorse is changed, but they play (9) - ORCHESTRA*
19 - If one could be home at ten, one must be old! (4-5) - MOTH-EATEN*
20 - The pace at which student empowerment takes place inside (5) - TEMPO [T]
22 - Drunken people of the north are missing the head of clan (7) - SOTTISH ScOTTISH I looked at Kashmiri etc etc...
25 - A Bridge player's progress, it is the beginning (7) - NASCENT {N}{ASCENT}
27 - A merchant gets a place before the Queen (9) - STATIONER {STATION}{ER}
28 - Hang the head of department. It is a crime (5) - DRAPE {D}{RAPE}
29 - Dethroning game played when one is mean-spirited (3,2,3,6) - DOG IN THE MANGER* Somehow mean-spirited doesn't sound correct for a 'dog in the manger'
DOWN
2   - Casual line about girl going astray with a man (9) - NEGLIGENT {NE{G}LI*}{GENT}
3   - Some publicity over dress is extra (3-2) - ADD-ON {AD}{D-ON}
4   - Clumsy admiral to be replaced (9) - MALADROIT*
5   - An ass, or is it a horse in front of the church? (5) - DUNCE {DUN}{CE}
6   - It could be hot, barren and distasteful (9) - ABHORRENT*
7   - The wild beast makes so much noise to leave (5) - DINGO {DIN}{GO}
8   - When cross, one could lose it with a paint (7) - TEMPERA {TEMPER}{A}
9   - Being wily, it is back within shout (6) - CRAFTY {CR{AFT}Y}
15 - Go before it returns. Can I regulate what you eat? (9) - DIETICIAN {DIE}{IT<-}{CIAN*}
17 - The fish has swallowed sister? Strange problem! (9) - CONUNDRUM {CO{NUN}D}{RUM}
18 - Moderate 8 has mostly tea (9) - TEMPERATE {TEMPERA}{TEa}
19 - He chides us immediately, when exploited are back inside (7) - MISUSED [T<-]
21 - Beginning, when not in the group (6) - OUTSET {OUT}{SET}
23 - The Yankees have it, we hear (5) - TWANG [CD] Was stuck with DRAWL
24 - A premonition that Quasimodo is not back (5) - HUNCH HUNCHback
26 - The chair in one of those dance halls (5) - SEDAN [T]



25 comments:

  1. Liked very much.

    A bit gloomy on ID with the sober thought that we have not reached where we should have and seem to have digressed a bit too much. No silver lining to the cloud is visible. Let us hope for the best.Wishing all of you a better more 'Independant' India.


    Further gloomy on passing of the fake tiger. I had modeled myself in his mould during my school and college days.

    Article on him in TH entitled 'Forever contemporary!' talks of him as 'well healed'.;-)

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  2. 23 - The Yankees have it, we hear (5) - TWANG [CD]

    DD?

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  3. Happy I-Day to all :)

    An observation in today's puzzle: There are 8 instances of 'IT' in the clues to define words, of those 4 are succeeded by 'IS'. Unnecessary and samey, I thought.

    In 24D, does Quasimodo define 'hunchback'? Have never heard of the name.

    [T] in 20A is not clear at all. 'halls' is useless in the 26D [T] clue. Arden has this habit of using long hidden fodders.

    In 12A, got reminded of a programme in NDTV Hindu - 'Feeding Frenzy' :)

    19D belongs to Shuchi's past article: lousy clue with definition in middle and no indication.

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  4. Where are the anagrinds for 1A and (CIAN)* in 15D? Also didn't like the clues with 2 unrelated sentences together. 21D is ideally 'out of set' rather than 'outset', but should be borderline okay...

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  5. Sudalamani, hidden clues are probably the only clue type where verbiage is pardoned if it makes the surface better.

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  6. Sudalamani @ 9:01,

    In 1A 'placed' and in 15D 'regulated'

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  7. Bhavan, that's fine for 26D, but 19D and 20A don't read great, I think.

    Thanks Col. 'place' as in 'arrange' looks fine. I don't like 15D with the double duty going on. The def is 'I regulate what you eat'.

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  8. Agree, 19D doesn't feel right. But 20A I have no problems.

    I see no issue with 21D either:

    not in = out
    the group = set

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  9. Did Saturday's and today's Ardens together this morning and really enjoyed this (new to me) setter.
    One small gripe - an OBE is not a knighthood, but an honour that doesn't make you a "sir".

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  10. I had always taken "dog in the manger" to mean smug, but wiki has it listed as spiteful, quoting the original Aesop fable - you learn something new every day!

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  11. David. The top two classes of OBE does give a person knighthood. Refer Wiki.

    Neat cw.Have no issues with any of the clues

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  12. Whoops - my bad! Always better to check your facts than go with what you THINK you know

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  13. Good and enjoyable though I could not complete.It made me stretch that little bit extra.Only grouse is about 19D.

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  14. 23 - The Yankees have it, we hear (5) - TWANG [CD]

    DD 1. A strongly nasal tone of voice, especially as a peculiarity of certain regional dialects.

    2.A sharp, vibrating sound, as that of a plucked string.(Freedict)

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  15. I will be in Coimbatore over this weekend and will be free on Saturday/Sunday (20th/21st) night, in case feasible we, that is the THC followers in Coimbatore, could have a small meeting on one of those days. Once decided I shall fix up my program for the other day depending on which day we decide to meet. On Monday I am off to Chittur in Kerala to attend my aunts 84 B'day and will be traveling back to Bangalore on the 23rd.

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  16. Here are some interesting 15 letter clues from a CW in Singapore's Strait Times:

    Thanks the information people in turn (15)

    For example, you are the first successor (3,6,6)

    Needs more staff at a cat dispensary really (2,1,6,2,4)

    Where there was a fall in fruit consumption? (3,6,2,4)

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  17. 17 - The fish has swallowed sister? Strange problem! (9) {CO{NUN}D}{RUM}

    This was how it was clued in HT of 5 Aug (Times #23049):
    Tease, catching sister with unusual riddle (9){CO(NUN)D}{RUM} COD: Tease in slang.

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  18. This is how NJ clued it on 09 Nov 10 The CON was never resolved that day

    Problem with the German spirit (9) - {CON}{UND}{RUM} A'la Kishore. But from where is the CON? Is it from with?

    We had 89 comments on that day

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  19. Deepak

    Thanks for the info about your CBE visit.

    Much as I would have liked to visit CBE, where I have many relatives and it's years since I went there, I am afraid I will not be able to come (as I had said some months ago). Doctor has advised me against travel without an escort.

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  20. CV,
    I understand, besides the notice also is too short for anyne from out of Coimbatore to attend. I was informed only yesterday about my aunt's 84 b'day lunch. With no train reservations being available by the night trains I have to travel by the day train, as I hate travelling by bus.

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  21. I solved the Hindu crossword after a long time today. Liked this new setter's style on the whole. COD: 19A, its structure reminded me of Afrit and the surface raised a smile. Ticks also for 2D, 4D.

    There were a few inconsistencies with the cryptic grammar and more surface padding than I like, but overall I found this pleasant and accessible. Thanks Arden.

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  22. CV,

    Your use of CBE reminded me of KMU which many elders in my family still use while referring to Kumbakonam in their letters. I came to know that this is the railway code for Kumbakonam. Incidentally, the town was at one time called the "Cambridge of South India".

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  23. Welcome to CBE, Gopi-sir.

    Will you call me on arrival? Can we meet breifly, of possible at my place?

    Any one else available? Would like to meet all of you.

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