Thursday, 12 July 2012

No 10513, Thursday 12 Jul 12, Mover

ACROSS
1   - Interrupt advice on how to board a packed train compartment? (3,2,8) - GET IN EDGEWISE [DD]
10 - Community funds stashed away for auditors (5) - HORDE (~hoard)
11 - Everywhere, each flower container holds four (9) - PERVASIVE {PER}{VAS{IV}E}
12 - After sunset, left to be picked up by young fox in disco (9) - NIGHTCLUB {NIGHT{C{L}UB}
13 - Each time missing Greek letter gave message for Alice (3,2) - EAT ME {EAch TiME}
14 - Six-footers, apparently in nonconformist groups (7) - INSECTS {IN}{SECTS}
16 - Leaves allowed by cute cook (7) - LETTUCE {LET}{CUTE*}
18 - Handicap resolute supporter (4,3) - GAME LEG {GAME} {LEG}
20 - Vessel the writer had to dip into (7) - INKWELL [E]
22 - Place to get dates? (5) - OASIS [CD]
24 - Love a party assignment (9) - ADORATION {A}{DO}{RATION}
26 - Explorer taking stuff back before starting odd game (5,4) - MARCO POLO {MARC<-}{O} {POLO}
27 - Sweetie sniffs cocaine (5) - TOOTS [DD]
28 - Could a flypaper pose such a puzzle? (6,7) - STICKY PROBLEM [CD]
DOWN
2   - Furious rag seen in tatters (7) - ENRAGES*
3   - All the same, I lanced in anyhow (9) - IDENTICAL* Is it in or isn't it in?
4   - Throw out some unisex pelicans (5) - EXPEL [T]
5   - Judo costume covers a bawdy Italian patriot (9) - GARIBALDI {G{A}{RIBALD}I }
6   - Beat a very large person (5) - WHALE [DD]
7   - Massage suit has gone awry (7) - SHIATSU*
8   - Perhaps clueing moors for a BBC broadcast show (8,5) - CHANGING ROOMS {CHANGING MOORS}
9   - A serious complaint (6,7) - SEVERE ILLNESS [E]
15 - Witness violent gyrations (9) - SIGNATORY*
17 - Make an attempt at weaving a basket (4,1,4) - TAKE A STAB {AT+A+BASKET}*
19 - Mouse relative follows animal scent for an aquatic rodent (7) - MUSKRAT {MUSK}{RAT}
21 - Abstract pie thrown to me (7) - EPITOME {PIE*}{TO}{ME}
23 - Not passionate, this Greek philosopher (5) - STOIC [CD]
25 - A smell, but nothing gloomy (5) - ODOUR {O}{DOUR}




16 comments:

  1. 3 - All the same, I lanced in anyhow (9) - IDENTICAL* Is it in or isn't it in?

    Only time will tell...

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  2. if it is in or if it is on it is as it is.

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  3. Thought that was a good testing puzzle from Mover.

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  4. Furious is enrages or enraged?

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    1. To clarify. The synonym of furious ( 2D ) cannot be enrages. It could be enraged.

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  5. 8 - Perhaps clueing moors // for a BBC broadcast show (8,5) - CHANGING ROOMS {CHANGING MOORS}
    This is a DD.
    1) Reverse anagram Changing rooms = (ROOMS)* = MOORS
    2) a Do It Yourself home improvement show broadcast by BBC

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    1. How can it be a DD

      Perhaps clueing moors = CHANGING MOORS which gives CHANGING ROOMS which is the 'BBC broadcast show'

      And if you didn't notice the link has already been provided in the main post so what's the point you are trying to make in posting the link again?

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    2. How can it be a DD?

      Clueing/Changing MOORS as suggested will lead only to ROOMS.

      Here, CHANGING ROOMS is given as a way of clueing MOORS - 'perhaps clueing moors', one of the two definitions.

      The other definition is 'a BBC broadcast show'.

      The confusion between 'didn't' and 'did' is common in Indian usage of English which has been mentioned in this forum on an earlier occasion.

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    3. CHANGING ROOMS is a reverse "wordplay" for MOORS and not a definition.

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  6. 22 - Place to get dates? (5) - OASIS [C]

    On first reading, one might take it as STEAD from DATES* meaning place, e.g., "in his STEAD".

    The answer OASIS identified this clue as Straight or Easy. The need for '?' is not clear.

    A wit once said, "I am fond of history as it is full of dates".

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  7. Nice one, but for the couple of 'dodgy' bits already mentioned earlier, which could easily have been corrected with a bit of proof reading. Not that many anagrams from Mover this time!

    I do wish straightforward meaning type clues were avoided, ref 9D

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  8. @Barbadkatte @11.24 I agree with you and I also felt the same

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  9. 22 - Place to get dates? (5) - OASIS

    I refrained from commenting on this earlier.

    But when I just now saw someone elsewhere suggesting the answer STEAD (obviously the solver in Kuwait was not using the grid), I thought that that was a better answer (though inappropriate in the grid), especially because of the use of the question mark at the end of the clue.

    As the answer is DATES, I don't think the question mark is apt.

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    1. PS: Venkatesh, I didn't notice that you in the post above had mentioned STEAD. Only after I wrote my Reply and after I scrolled up, I saw it.

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  10. CV,

    Thanks for the clarification on the '?'. Had the setter used a charade or other device, it would have made it interesting.

    Sankalak had also used '?' when it was not needed in THC 10054 of 18.1.11:
    A refuge where one may find dates? (5) OASIS

    However, he had clued it imaginatively in THC 10412 of 16.3.12:
    African group, one's refuge in wasteland (5)(OAS)(1'S)

    MManna had set this clue in THC 10226 of 6.8.11:
    Nothing is like being in one in the desert (5) (O)(AS)(IS)

    Everyman 2681 (Sunday THC 8.4.12) had this:
    Old unaltered haven (5) - OASIS {O}{AS}{IS}

    A variation on the same theme by Buzzer last week (in THC 10504 of 2.7.12):
    Watering hole lacks zip in its present condition (2,2) [-o]AS,IS

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