Solution to 23D has been deliberately left unsolved and is to be answered only by a non-regular / novice commenter, with proper annotation. Those who have answered earlier in the week, please give others a chance.
Open for anyone to answer, if not solved by 1 PM.
ACROSS
1 Measure of 16, 36 maybe found in carpenter's tool? (6) SQUARE [DD]
5 Cabinet basically worried over a vexatious border (8) WARDROBE {Wo...d}{A}{BORDER*}
9 Surprise from shooter's weapon by enthusiast (4,4) BOWL OVER {BOW}{LOVER}
10 Has two pants? It's not important (2,4) SO WHAT*
11 Hides six-shooter wielding Duke inside for wines (10) BURGUNDIES {BUR{GUN}{D}IES}
12 American jerk (4) YANK [DD]
13 Dissent features in suicide/ murder (5) DEMUR [T]
14 Husband in second air-conditioned train (6) SCHOOL {S}{C{H}OOL}
17 Agree years spent in overseas (3,3) SAY YES {YY} in {SEAS<=}* (Correction - {YY} in {SEAS<=} - See comments)
19 Scottish inventor reportedly consumed drug in cereal (5) WHEAT {(~watt)WHAT}* over {E}
22 Five out of five got 50. It's a record (4) FILE {FIv{L}E}
24 Fly low with courage (10) BLUEBOTTLE {BLUE}{BOTTLE}
26 Associate withdraws support to government bill (8) DIAGNOSE {AID<=}{G}{NOSE}
27 Word play maybe repeater (8) REPARTEE*
28 Man-made hybrid of aster with zinnia mainly (6) ERSATZ {ASTER*}{Zi...a}
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2 Queen is doubtful about alternative members required for the meeting (6) QUORUM {QU}{UM} over {OR}
3 By all accounts, friend buys story without suspicion in the end (9) ALLEGEDLY {AL{LEGEnD}LY}
4 Malign knight in flat with objectionable material primarily (7) ENVENOM {E{N}VEN}{Ob...e}{Ma...l}
5 He is fussy about Bank of Nile perhaps losing volume (7) WORRIER {ROW<=}{RIvER}
7 Disorderly mob razed college with artillery eventually (5) ROWDY {cROWD}{a...lY}
8 Maybe Einstein goes to bathroom first to take shower before buffet (8) BRAINBOX {Ba...m}{RAIN}{BOX}
15 They have pegs with bowler near stadium seats (3,6) HAT STANDS {HAT}{STANDS}
16 Photoelectric device - An enchanting quality on surveillance (5,3) MAGIC EYE {MAGIC}{EYE}
18 Content with substitute, vacation judge of court (7) SUBJECT {SUB}{JudgE}{CT}
19 Budding forest-fly, I hear (5-2) WOULD-BE (~wood bee)
20 Welcome support cutting short toastmaster (7) EMBRACE {EM{BRA}CEe}
21 Ready to start new Tesla model finally (3,3) ALL SET {TESLA+m..eL}*
23 It goes to in-side and outside (5) E?T?A (Addendum - EXTRA [DD] - See comments)
Reference List
Duke = D, Second = S, Husband = H, Year = Y, Drug = E, 50 = L, Government = G, Queen = QU, Knight = N, Volume = V, College = C, Court = CT, Support = BRA
17a typo! Seas<=
ReplyDeleteYou are right, Prasad
DeleteSO WHAT?
ReplyDeleteVladimir had chosen the ROWDY attire from his WARDROBE.
He was ALL SET, standing in a corner of Times SQUARE.
The SUBJECT was nearing him. Was the subject BOWLED OVER? DId the subject SAY YES? Did he EMBRACE?
What happened next?
Welcome back Sir
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DeleteWelcome CGB. Welcome Vladimir
ReplyDelete26A- what is the definition? It is not associate.
ReplyDeleteIt is associate.
DeleteWhich culture do you identify youself with!
Nice grid by KKR. Hopefully will complete by 1 PM.
ReplyDelete23d EXTRA
ReplyDeleteAnno not clear
Rather not sure
Delete23D - EXTRA - DD
ReplyDeletethat\s what RK said. but where is the anno?
Deletea prefix meaning “outside,” . extracted from Collins. Hence the meaning applicable for both out and inside. After seeing Dic. My take as Double Def.
DeleteOk, what is the second def.?
Deletelikewise, other wise , else - comes under extra. But typical 'inside' meaning could not get.
Deleteok, I prefer to wait for someone else!
Deletemind blowing and brain teasing puzzle. This is my CoD.
DeleteExtra goes to the in -side i.e the side batting(in cricket)?
DeletePerfect Sridhar, that is what my intention was.
DeleteThanks! Enjoyed the clue!
DeleteExtra is either a bye (in-side) or a wide (out-side) in cricket. It's a DD
ReplyDeleteThought the same. Still can't convince myself.
DeleteNot same but on similar lines
DeleteYes, you two are right too.
DeleteKaraoke's grid today contained many exemplary charade type clues including 9A {BOW}{L OVER}, 11A {BUR{GUN}{D}IES}, 13A {S}{C{H}OOL}, 2D {QU}{OR}{UM}, 4D {E{N}VEN}{OM} and 15D {HAT}{STANDS} and 26A {DIA<=}{G}{NOSE} which contained a reversal.
ReplyDeleteSome nice substitution-type clues were 22A {FI(-v)(+l)E} and 3D {AL{LEGE(-n)D}LY}.
While technically correct to parse, 17A ("in overseas") had a small grammatical bug. In 16D, "surveillance" as EYE was not convincing.
However, "pants" as the anagram indicator in 10A SO WHAT (Has two pants? It's not important) was clever.
ERSATZ was a nice word to find here. MAGIC EYE and BOTTLE for "courage" were new concepts to me.
DeleteI have a question for anyone who protests the use of indirect anagrams.
ReplyDeleteLet us consider the classic example given by Ximenes of indirect anagram: Unusually tough monster (5) HYDRA {HARDY*}
This type of clue is widely considered to be unfair to the setter because the wordplay (anagram) fodder is not visible in the clue.
At the same time, consider the following clues from Karaoke's CW today:
19A Scottish inventor reportedly consumed drug in cereal (5) WHEAT {WH{E}AT (~what HP)}
In this clue, the wordplay fodder "Watt" which sounds like "what" is not visible in the clue. Is it any more or less fair a clue than an indirect anagram?
5D He is fussy about Bank of Nile perhaps losing volume (7) WORRIER {(WOR<=)RI(-v)ER}
In this clue, neither the wordplay fodder for "ROW" nor "RIVER" is visible in the clue. Is it any more or less fair a clue than an indirect anagram?
20D Welcome support cutting short toastmaster (7) EMBRACE {EM{BRA}CE(-e)}
In this clue, neither the wordplay fodder for BRA nor for EMCEE is visible in the clue. Is it any more or less fair a clue than an indirect anagram?
Why do some solvers get up in arms when confronted with a partial or complete indirect anagram, but accept indirect homophone, indirect substitution, indirect reversal and most commonly charades which are largely indirect clues? What is so special about an anagram type crpytic clue that it elicits the bad reputation that arguable some of these other clue types could also do? Surely it cannot be only because Ximines wrote that he hates them, and that many solvers accept this uncritically as a shibboleth?
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DeleteIt's mathematics: the number of possibilities that need to be considered is unfairly large for indirect anagrams (as opposed to, say, an indirect reversal).
DeleteHow can WH(E)AT be called an angram?
DeleteWH(E)AT isn't an anagram, nor has it been called one.
DeleteCol, have a doubt about grid
ReplyDeleteIf i pick a 7*7 or even 8*8 SW corner, except for 3d check, its an Island.
Like Suchi said in yesterday ref article "the solver is left no better off than at the start even if he solves the rest of grid."
Is it OK.
Fav clues were ROWDY, ALLEGEDLY, FILE, ALL SET to name a few. Thanks Karaoke and Col
ReplyDeleteA bit tougher than the usual KKR.
ReplyDeleteLoved ALL SET, SO WHAT, ALLEGEDLY.
Did not connect bottle with courage & diagnose with associate. So didn't parse properly.
Extra - dd become extra run goes to the side (inside) & extra means additional or outside - is how I annoed it.
Thank KKR.
Becos*
ReplyDeleteThank you all for your comments
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