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ACROSS
1 In short "A tale" - there is no interest for it (7,7) CURRENT ACCOUNT {CURRENT}{ACCOUNT}
10 Winger's lift at home (5) ROBIN {ROB}{IN}
12 Left one in lead, only a sugar pill (7) PLACEBO {P{L}{ACE}B}{O}
13 Stop! Nothing to hold me back! (7) EMBARGO {O}{GRAB}{ME}<=
14 What is held by United States, say in reparation? (5) ASSET [T<=] Semi&lit
16 Walk way to retain billboard? Follow intuition, perhaps (9) ESPLANADE {LAN{AD}E}<=>{ESP}
19 Seamstress will eat wearing short gloves (9) MIDINETTE {MI{DINE}TTEn}
20 Show rejection in some hospital certificate (5) ECLAT [T<=]
22 Dictator in trial, looking extremely neat (7) TIDIEST {T{IDI}EST}
25 Sign of authority gets dubious respect (7) SCEPTRE*
27 Hottest in a way, sorted it out, right inside (9) TORRIDEST {SORTED+IT}* over {R}
28 Private meal, hasn't started (5) INNER dINNER
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2 Bin used as substitute - is it fair? (9) UNBIASSED*
3 Wash and go up anonymously (5) RINSE {RI{N}SE}
4 Shelter housing missile, extremely cramped (9) NARROWEST {N{ARROW}EST}
5 Beer drinking, is this a way? (5) AISLE {A{IS}LE}
7 Decapitated ram, say (5) UTTER bUTTER
8 Material that sets our ground (7) TUSSORE*
9 Drink with general consent to accept blame (6) GRAPPA {G{RAP}PA}
17 Urge male to hold the clothes in place (5,4) PRESS STUD {PRESS}{STUD}
18 Lancelot accepting a representation suddenly (3,2,4) ALL AT ONCE {LANCELOT+A}*
19 Transformed with time consumed in keeping dirt out (7) MUTATED {MU{T}{ATE}D}
21 Party takes him in principle (6) THEORY {T{HE}ORY}
23 Physicist finds it dry on the way up and cloudy (5) DIRAC {ARID<=}{C}
24 Connection with money that is invested (3-2) TIE-IN {T{IE}IN}
26 Around one acre to put up a plant (5) ERICA {ER{1}CA<=}
Reference List
A = Ampere = CURRENT, Left = L, Only = O, Billboard = AD, Right = R, Time = T, Cloudy = C
28A: (_d)INNER
ReplyDelete10A: ROB(IN)
8D: TUSSORE..sets+our*
20 A: ECLAT..Rev T
25A: SCEPTRE..respect*
10A was a lovely clue. Simple charade. "Winger's lift at home (5)"
Delete18D. ALL AT ONCE - LANCELOT + A
ReplyDeleteBy far, most gratifying puzzle for me in some time. Finding the annotations is more difficult than the answers.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteNevertheless very entertaining,
Delete27 ac torridest anagram of sorted it with r ie right
ReplyDeleteDefinition?
Delete27A Hottest in a way sorted it out, right inside (9)
DeleteSolution = TORRIDEST
Hottest = Definition
SORTED IT = anagram fodder
out = anagrind
right = R
Inside = Containment indicator
What is "in a way" doing in the clue? Is it part of the definition? "Hottest, in a way"?
Separately, I am scratching my head for the meaning of the surface reading. It contains 3 phrases tacked together with commas that together don't seem to mean anything!
There is only one comma. It IS cryptic in a way🙂
Delete5 ac aisle ale with is.
ReplyDeleteIt is 5d
DeletePl find tune the anno
5 Beer drinking, is this a way? (5)
DeleteSolution = AISLE
Beer = ALE
Drinking = containment ind
IS = containment fodder
a way? = Definition
"This" appears to be redundant.
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DeleteThis a way? - has an unsaid Is in front.
DeleteAISLE answers to
'This a way?'- Definition
Or 'is' on double duty!
Delete19Ac MIDINETTE -{MI{DINE}TTE(-n)}
ReplyDelete-ns ??
Delete13a EMBARGO - stop
ReplyDelete{o}{grab}{me}<=
Brilliant solve. I had used the crossings to solve it but was stuck on the anno. There was a subtle wordplay at the end implying the entire thing subsidiary indication to be reversed to arrive at the definition.
Delete12a : PLACEBO (P(L)(ACE)B)(O)
ReplyDeleteDefinition : A sugar pill.
(A pill that is given to a patient like a drug but that has no medicine in it )
L(left)+ACE(one) in PB(lead)+O(only)
Lead is a chemical element with the symbol Pb
MB sir!!!! what a solve!!!!!!
Delete👌
Delete19 ac midinette-seamstress.
ReplyDeleteshort gloves -mitte(n).eat-dine.
mi(dine)tte.
Gloves:mittens!!
Delete3D RINSE
ReplyDeleteGo up: Rise
Anonymously: without Name (n)
Rise without N: Rinse
Definition: Wash
Anonymously = delete N. Is this common in crosswords?
DeleteThis is the only anno I couldn't figure out. Got it from this comment.
Delete11A Reverberates(def) - RESONATES
ReplyDeleteanother(anagrind) reason*
for (link)
failure? - setback? - TES
(RESONA*)(TES)
"Failure?" = setback was interesting, though beyond the line of fair subsidiary wordplay. The wordplay should lead directly to the solution, not to a further step of wordplay.
Delete16 a. ESPLANADE: walk
ReplyDeleteESP: intuition( extra sensory perception
LANE: way
AD: billboard
ESP LAN (AD) E
I think (walk) way is on double duty as definition and lane.
Deletewalk as noun is a route meant for walking for pleasure; so is esplanade.
Deleteway is a route on which one may walk or run for any purpose.
I thought the setter did not mean double duty for either word.
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DeleteGood solve AJ mam. I was not getting anno. for ESP
DeleteThanks Prasanna
DeleteGood solve. I had got the word ESPLANADE using the crossings and given up on the anno, eventually finding out through your comment.
Deletecompensating....
ReplyDelete29 ac ducks and drakes-pastime.
as kurds danced k* wee(k)end
I was dancing with Kurds for long before realising its arden.
Delete22A – {T{IDI}EST}
ReplyDeleteTrial – Test
Dictator – Idi Amin
Def. Neat - Tidiest
I would have preferred to have it as 'Say, dictator' since it is part of a proper name.
Deleteagreed sir......
DeleteI disagree regarding the proper name.
DeleteIf the clue has a proper noun indicating a generic word (or proper noun) in the solution, then we need an indicator to make it fair. For example, if the clue had "Idi" and the solution had DICTATOR then we could say that "Idi, say" would have been a fair indication.
Since the clue is the other way round - generic indicator in the clue with a specific example in the solution, the clue is fair as it is. It is normal for example to have "River" in a clue meaning DEE or TEES or NILE in the solution. Why not the same for "dicator" = IDI?
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Side note regarding the same issue: yesterday I was solving Guardian Cryptic 29162 by Picaroon. One of the main clues was - "Will fruit put in drinks finish in lemonade? (11)" with the solution {SHAKES}{PEAR}{(-lemonad)E}. I thought this clue was unfair as the definition is "Will", which is a proper noun. However on the solution blog fifteensquared, there were 100+ comments on the puzzle and not a single one pointing this out! The post is interesting as the puzzle across solutions also have a subtle theme.
https://www.fifteensquared.net/2023/08/30/guardian-cryptic-29162-by-picaroon/
Will for william is very common in england/gaurdian. Even SS is also ref with that name in local.
DeleteSo its fair for them.
2d UNBIASSED: Fair, unbiased alternative selling
ReplyDelete(bin used as)*
2D Bin used as substitute - is it fair?
DeleteMy comment: Substitute as anagrind - is it fair???
4D N(ARROW)EST = extremely cramped
ReplyDeleteshelter = NEST
housing = containment indicator
missile = ARROW
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ReplyDelete1A CUURENT ACCOUNT; there is no interest for it; In short A = current (ampere); tale=account
ReplyDelete👍
DeleteGood one- to get current from A. Arden had disguised it neatly as 'A tale'
Delete+1
Delete+2, a fine charade with A as the unit of curent.
Delete6D. CAN (able) + E (last letter of "escape") + BRAKE (stop) = CANEBRAKE = a thicket of bamboo
ReplyDelete7d UTTER = Say
ReplyDeleteRam = Butter, decapitated (- B)
Though "butter" in the clue = RAM in the solution seems to be common in clues, I found it strange that "ram" in the clue should mean BUTTER in the solution.
DeleteThat would be like putting Nile in the clue and expecting the solvers to put FLOWER in the solution.
Ram(animal) is a noun synonymous with butter(one who butts), not a name(proper noun) like Nile.
DeleteDirac. C(ARID)=<. Physicist
ReplyDeleteDry=Arid, Cloudy-C
On the way up is reversal indicator.
Had to google to confirm Paul Dirac as a theoretical physicist.
From Big Bang Theory
DeleteSheldon: I brought Amy here to show her some of the work I'm doing.
Amy: It's very impressive, for theoretical work.
Sheldon: Do I detect a hint of condescension?
Amy: I'm sorry, was I being too subtle? I meant compared to the real-world applications of neurobiology, theoretical physics is - what's the word I'm looking for? Hmm, cute.
Sheldon: Are you suggesting the work of a neurobiologist like Babinski could ever rise to the significance of a physicist like Clerk Maxwell or Dirac?
Amy: I'm stating it outright. Babinski eats Dirac for breakfast and defecates Clerk Maxwell
Oh yes, that was a memorable scene 😁
DeleteAnyway, credit to me for having solved the clue, though I did not watch Big Bang theory, Of course, wiki is there to help people like me!!
DeleteI think ARID<= C would be more appropriate anno
DeleteUsed to have the theme song of big bang theory by bare naked ladies as my ringtone. That episode between Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler is legen, wait for it..., dary!
DeleteThat (legendary stuff) is from 'how I met your mother'.
17a, Press Stud = To hold clothes in place
ReplyDeleteUrge = press
Make = stud
Male = stud, typo
ReplyDeleteSorry again, it id 17d and not 17a
ReplyDelete14A-asset-what is held; united staTES SAy in reverse; not sure if reparation means reverse though
ReplyDelete+1, "reparation of" could be an anagram indicator. "Repulsion" and "Repelling" could be reversal indicators.
Delete+2
Delete19D MUTATED = Transformed {MUD, dirt taking time T, ATE consumed}
ReplyDelete4d NARROWEST
ReplyDeleteshelter = nest
missile = arrow
Nest housing arrow
Def : extremely cramped
4D Solved at 11:11
DeleteDown 9, 15, 24, 26 remaining.
ReplyDeleteReplacement for 4d
ReplyDelete15d : TANNERIES
endeavors = tries
girl = anne
def: hides = animal skin (tannery is a place where animal skin in processed)
I got the TANNERIES anno because of hides, but HIDES HERE as a definition lacks something.
Delete15d (T(ANNE)RIES) = place with hides / skins; Anne from girl; Endeavours => tries
ReplyDelete24d (T(IE)- IN) = connection; Money=> Tin; that is => ie
26d ERICA = a flowering plant: anagram of Acre + I from one.
26D is not an anagram
DeleteRight. Acre reversal around I. "Put up" being the reversal instructor.
Delete9d G(rap)PA def: drink
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ReplyDeleteYes, Prasad's solution will also be cryptic!
ReplyDeleteoverall view Friday's special experienced with challenging & interesting. lot of debates and interactions. Thank you Col.sir & Arden.
ReplyDeleteSome words had an interesting French etymological connection: MIDINETTE, ECLAT, SCEPTRE, ESPLANADE. Seeing IDI as "dictator in trial" in 22A was amusing. 1A (Charade) and 29A (Anagram) were challenging but key clues to open up the grid.
ReplyDeleteCANEBRAKE, GRAPPA and TUSSORE were interesting words to research. I think my mother owns some saris made with TUSSORE silk.
Rather unfairly, "substitute" was used as an anagrind in 2D and "reparation" as a reversal indicator in 14A. In two clues, the wordplay led to additional wordplay: "failure"->setback->{SET<=}->{TES} in 11A and "anonymously"->without name->{(-n)} in 3D, also unfair to the solver in my opinion. In 15A "Hides here" as the definition for TANNERIES was on the borderline, as the definition contained adequate information to arrive at the solution but it was grammatically incomplete, seemingly in the name of misdirection.
In 17D, the definition was a verb while the solution was a noun - a part-of-speech mismatch.
My clue-of-the-day was 19D {MU{T}{ATE}D} ("Transformed with time consumed in keeping dirt out"). It was a fine charade with an agreeable surface reading.
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ReplyDeleteI started filling the grid mainly marking the junctions(crossings) because I wasn't 100% about a lot of them. As the crossings started matching, started looking at the clues more closely to arrive at the answers.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, in 11A I needed TES for answer and to account for failure. Reverse engineering worked.
Probably some clues are unconventional, but gave me aha moments.
19A solution should show
ReplyDeleteshort gloves as 'mittens - ns'.
Not as shown, that is 'mitten-n'.
Arden has not served a garden variety CW, for sure! I like it👍
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