Friday, 29 September 2023

No 13982, Friday 29 Sep 2023, Karaoke

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ACROSS
1   Drink over drink - It's a drinking spree (4-2) PISS-UP{SIP<=}{SUP}
5   Spooner's defender followed old maid, maybe (4,4) CARD GAME (~ guard came to card game)
9 Tightening to catch thieves chiefly for shoplifting (8) STEALING {S{Th...s}EALING}
10 Pass through evil blood (4,2) SINK IN {SIN}{KIN}
11 They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle (5,5) ARMED FORCE {CARED+FOR+periMEters}* &lit
12 Wine biscuits available partly on counter (4) ASTI [T<=]
13 Low-rent? 50 less for hooter! (5) OWLET {lOW}{LET}
14 Get hold of scoundrel in bishop's diocese (6) SECURE {SE{CUR}E}
17 Wine bar back in airportSiberia (6) BISTRO [T<=]
19 Animal's long laugh outside (5) HYENA {H{YEN}A}
22 Encouraging expression from compound periodically (4) CMON {CoMpOuNd}
24 Training at noon, that maybe marathon mostly or another athletic event (10) PENTATHLON {PE}{N}{THAT*}{LONg}
25 I hear marketing drink makes sense (4,2) ADDS UP {(~ad)ADD}{SUP}
26 Instruments found in radio car in a shed (8) OCARINAS [T]
27 Second slip position (8) BACKDROP {BACK}{DROP}
28 One of two plus one in number (6) EITHER {E{1}THER}

DOWN
2   Detain one after the other, I say (6) INTERN (~ in turn)
3   Extremely sadistic animals get bunny (9) SCAPEGOAT {Sa...iC}{APE}{GOAT}
4   Traumatic chill essentially disturbing sleep on retirement? Take flu shot (7) PAINFUL {N{chIll}AP}<={FLU*}
5   Primarily cancer institute gives admission readily excluding tobacconists for a whiff (7) CIGARET Acrostic Semi&lit
6   Resorts concocted registers (7) ROSTERS*
7   Intoxicating preparation smuggled out of MichiganJackson (5) GANJA [T]
8   Jogging suit in extra sweat (8) MOISTURE {MO{SUIT*}RE}
15 Edit the technique of weight-loss (5,4) CRASH DIET {EDIT}* [RA]
16 A way between extremes through press, maybe (3,5) VIA MEDIA {VIA}{MEDIA}
18 Ideally, where do you see this grid? (2,5) ON PAPER [C&DD]
19 No-hoper mostly failing to catch cock mainly in cage (3-4) HEN-COOP {NO+HOPEr}* over {Cock}
20 Man-eater roaming freely passing over river in spring (7) EMANATE {MAN+EATEr}*
21 Take measure party-wise (6) DOSAGE {DO}{SAGE}
23 Indian agricultural worker from the South in town (5) NASIK<=

Reference List
50 = L, Bishop's diocese = SEE, Training = PE, Noon = N, Marketing = AD, Drink = SUP, River = R, Party = DO


91 comments:

  1. 7 down answer GANJA, (telescope

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  2. 5d, Primarily c-i-g-a-r-e-t = a whiff. CIGARET. 17a, wine bar, back in airpORT-SIBeria, BISTRO. 12a, Wine, biscuITS-Available partly on counter, ASTI. 6d. RESORTS concocted registers, ROSTERS.

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  3. 25 ac adds up, marketing is ads, and drink is sup

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  4. 13 across
    OWLET = hooter
    Rent = LET,
    50 = L
    LE T less 50 = ET
    LOW, ET anagram = OWLET

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    1. Anagrind for LOW becoming OWL? Take a second look.

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    3. LOW, 50 less OW,
      Rent = LET
      NOW, OW+LET = OWLET

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    4. Mr Padmanabhan, thanks for your critical comment
      Now I ve got the correct annotation for 13 across

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  5. 8 down is moisture, anagram of suit with extra meaning more

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  6. It can't be a straight anagram with a synonym of extra.

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  7. 14a SECURE: get hold of
    SEE: bishop's diocese
    CUR: scoundrel
    SE(CUR)E

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  8. 20Dn EMANATE – {MAN EATE(-r)}*

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  9. 23D NASIK = town {Indian Agricultural worker KISAN, from south, means reverse}

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  10. 10 ac sink in
    evil-sin blood-kin

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  11. 21d – {DO}{SAGE}
    Party – Do
    Wise – sage
    Do+sage = dosage
    Def. a Measured dose

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  12. 3D SCAPEGOAT - Bunny. SC (extremes of sadistic) APE and GOAT animals

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  13. 24a : PENTATHLON = Another athletic event
    (PE)(N)(THAT*)(LON-g)
    Training : PE
    Noon : N
    That" : TATH
    Marathon mostly : LON-g

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  14. 5A Spooner's
    defender - guard
    followed - came
    old maid, maybe - CARD GAME(Spooner's guard came)

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  16. 15D CRASH DIET = technique of weight loss (RA)
    Edit => Diet

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  17. very intersting grid BY KKR garu.....had many aha moments......
    my Cod - NASIK,DOSAGE & few

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  18. 26a Instruments found in radio car in a shed (8)
    OCARINAS - Instruments [T]

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  19. 1A- Piss up= Drinking spree
    Drink over= SIP=<
    Drink= Sup
    So, Piss up.
    Another superb clue. KKR in superb form!!

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  20. 2d- intern; def- detain . One after the other is "in turn". When said, sounds as "intern"

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  21. Replies
    1. Imho, in the case of newspaper, it's "in (the) paper"

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    2. Actually the grid we are seeing is 'on paper', which happens to be in(part of) a news periodical.

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    3. "on paper" means "in theory" (as opposed to "in practice"), or "ideally" (as opposed to "in reality"). The definition provided in the clue is appropriate. Regarding the grammar, even when the crossword is in the paper, it is very much on paper, i.e. printed.

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    4. You should be able to remove it? If it's on. Right?

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    5. Pun excluding, when you have more than one paper, whoch becomes a booklet, one uses " in".

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    6. Sure, one can remove the ink on the paper using an eraser or chemical techniques.

      Something can be "in" the paper and also "on" the paper, they are not mutually exclusive.

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  22. 4d PAINFUL: traumatic
    Sleep: NAP: PAN on retirement
    Chill essentially is I
    I disturbs PAN
    We get PAIN
    flu shot if FUL
    Thus PA(I)N FUL

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  23. From "One in number"; one - "i" in "three" a number - I.e., anagram of three & i

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    1. My anno was different
      Number is Either. I in Ether is either.
      There is no anagram indicator

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    2. my take was
      one - I
      two + one = three
      E{I}THER*

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    3. Read 'Number is Ether' in my comment.

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    4. Veena is right. Ether numbs and so 'Numb'er

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    5. ether refers to organic compounds. more over one of two is directly gives the meaning of either. setter specifically stated one in number. number is 3. and one is insetred in three. setter to confirm

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    6. Wow, I thought plus (somehow has to be anagrind.

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    7. One inserted in three will not give either: there is no anagram indicator. And even if there was, it would be an indirect anagram

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    8. word play is too tricky. solver's perception was different. but, As paddy says it might be right. have to go with Veena's anno.

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    9. Role of plus is not clear though. Didn't think it would be an Anagrind

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    10. derived the the anno. in 3 ways...1- one of two = either=DD ; 2. 'in number ' we can say it as 'there' and insert 'i' in there* = either ; 3. 2+1=3 - three and insert 'i" in three = either

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    11. @Prasanna Rao...regarding your proposed annos

      The clue reads...
      28 One of two plus one in númber (6) EITHER

      1. It cannot be a DD. If the first definition is "one of two", the second definition has to be "two plus one in number" which is not a definition of either.

      2. If "in number" = there, then this is an anagram clue without an anagrind. I think we can be sure KKR would set an anagrind for an anagram clue.

      3. Similarly, if "two plus one" = "three" as anagram fodder, it would be an indirect anagram, which we can be sure KKR would avoid.

      The most likely intended anno from the setter is as follows.

      Definition = One of two
      plus = link word
      one = letter I
      in = containment indicator
      númber = ETHER.
      I in ETHER = {E{I}THER}

      As ether is an anaesthetic, it numbs. Therefore it is a number. Similar to how river = flower, ram = butter, cow = lower, etc. in crosswords.

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    12. Thnaks Mr KKR. Fully understood. All the way I cracked with anagram. Hats off to you for the excellent wordplay.

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  24. 27a, position = backdrop
    Second = back
    Slip = drop

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  25. 16d VIA MEDIA = A way between extremes
    VIA = Through
    MEDIA = Press

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  26. 22 CMON
    Definition Encouraging expression
    compound periodically - C M O N

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  27. 22A. Encouraging expression = C'MON. From "CoMpOuNd" (periodically)

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  28. In lieu of 22A.
    9A. T (from "thieves") inside "sealing" (tightening) = STEALING = shoplifting

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  29. 11 Ac and a couple of anno questions(25A & 8D) pending.

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  30. 8D- Mo(istu)*re
    Anagram of suit in More gives Moisture with jogging ad Anand.
    Extra= More

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  31. 25A- Add- homonym of Ad
    drink= Sup
    Adds up
    Def. is ' Makes sense'.

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    1. Marketing to advertisement to ad? And then hp!
      Think we had this discussion and gen consensus was "not adv"

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    2. I see no problem with the HP of ~ad sup = ADDS UP.

      An ad is an instance of marketing.

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  32. 11a, They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle = Armed Force
    Perimeters essentially = me
    (Cared for me)* = armed force

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  33. 11A They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle - ARMED FORCES
    cared for + em(perMEters essentially) *
    in struggle(anagrind)
    Semi&lit?

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  34. 11A ARMED FORCE = (entire clue is defn)
    (CARED FOR + ME )*
    ME (periMEters essentially)
    in struggle = anagrind

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  35. Quite a difficult puzzle from KKR, it was tough to get started with a poorly-connected grid that splits into top- and bottom-halves connected by only 2 clues. The wordplay was excellent and many of the clues were praise-worthy. After spotting the letter J in 7D, I thought it might be a pangram but was mistaken.

    1A PISS UP had amazing wordplay...it was clear to me from the start it had something to do with SUP, TEA, CHA, GIN, or the like, but to finally get the anno was a solver's delight. 2A CARD GAME was tough - I had to google "old maid" to see what it was. "Evil blood" for 10A {SIN}{KIN} was incredible, as was "second slip" for {BACK}{DROP} in 27A. I knew 13A was OWLET but struggled to get the anno as I had mistakenly taken {low}{rent} as [anagram fodder][anagrind]. It turned out to be simpler than I had expected. 19A was a nice charade and semi&lit. 25A was a satisfying HP, as was 1D. In 5D, the unconventional spelling threw me off but I was able to verify it easily.

    6D was an unexpectedly tough clue! I had initially marked registers = STORERS (as in cash registers store cash). It made me stuck and I was unable to get 10A for a long time. Later I decided that no, it must be SORTERS, as cash registers sort the various denominations of cash. It was only after a long time that I realised the solution must be ROSTERS.

    In 8D, "jogging suit" as [anagrind][fodder] was a clever feint by the setter. The RA for 15D CRASH DIET was also surprisingly hard, as with the bottom crossings came also the possibility of SMASH DIET. 18D ON PAPER and 23D NASIK were amusing and felt rewarding to solve. 19D and 20D were two very similar clues involving taking an anagram after deleting one character.

    11A could have avoided wordplay in the past-tense (ref: Gussalufz' article on 'cryptic grammar'). Similarly, "taking" would have been better cryptic grammar in 4D. The word 'that' was grammatically out-of-place in the surface of 24A.

    Does anybody have a good reference for scapegoat = BUNNY as in 3D? I was unable to spot it in Chambers online.

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    1. Bunny is more from Down under.should gave had a indi.

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    2. Difficult and tough to get it even after getting a couple of answers.

      19A wasn't a semi. & lit.
      Animal = h(yen)a

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    3. Hi Econ,
      Thanks for your lengthy message. My responses:
      1. In my Chambers Thesaurus, scapegoat [noun] has: victim, whipping-boy, sucker
      colloq. fall guy; Aust bunny; slang N American patsy
      and in Chambers Dictionary: bunny [noun]
      A young rabbit, esp a pet name for one (also bunny rabbit)
      A simpleton, a scapegoat (Aust inf)
      2. I am not sure whether you meant 11A in the last para. "cared for" is anagram fodder.
      3. In 4D, I don't find any issue here. it was like a statement made by someone in the first part. The second part is like a suggestion.

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  37. Many thanks to you all for the comments.

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  38. Nice grid KKR. I actually found it very easy. Except CMON which was the last to fall. My fav - EITHER, BACK DROP, SCAPE GOAT.
    Thanx.

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