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1 Drink over drink - It's a drinking spree (4-2) PISS-UP{SIP<=}{SUP}
5 Spooner's defender followed old maid, maybe (4,4) CARD GAME (~ guard came to card game)
9 Tightening to catch thieves chiefly for shoplifting (8) STEALING {S{Th...s}EALING}
10 Pass through evil blood (4,2) SINK IN {SIN}{KIN}
11 They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle (5,5) ARMED FORCE {CARED+FOR+periMEters}* &lit
12 Wine biscuits available partly on counter (4) ASTI [T<=]
13 Low-rent? 50 less for hooter! (5) OWLET {lOW}{LET}
14 Get hold of scoundrel in bishop's diocese (6) SECURE {SE{CUR}E}
17 Wine bar back in airport, Siberia (6) BISTRO [T<=]
19 Animal's long laugh outside (5) HYENA {H{YEN}A}
24 Training at noon, that maybe marathon mostly or another athletic event (10) PENTATHLON {PE}{N}{THAT*}{LONg}
25 I hear marketing drink makes sense (4,2) ADDS UP {(~ad)ADD}{SUP}
26 Instruments found in radio car in a shed (8) OCARINAS [T]
28 One of two plus one in number (6) EITHER {E{1}THER}
DOWN
2 Detain one after the other, I say (6) INTERN (~ in turn)
3 Extremely sadistic animals get bunny (9) SCAPEGOAT {Sa...iC}{APE}{GOAT}
4 Traumatic chill essentially disturbing sleep on retirement? Take flu shot (7) PAINFUL {N{chIll}AP}<={FLU*}
5 Primarily cancer institute gives admission readily excluding tobacconists for a whiff (7) CIGARET Acrostic Semi&lit
6 Resorts concocted registers (7) ROSTERS*
7 Intoxicating preparation smuggled out of Michigan, Jackson (5) GANJA [T]
8 Jogging suit in extra sweat (8) MOISTURE {MO{SUIT*}RE}
15 Edit the technique of weight-loss (5,4) CRASH DIET {EDIT}* [RA]
16 A way between extremes through press, maybe (3,5) VIA MEDIA {VIA}{MEDIA}
18 Ideally, where do you see this grid? (2,5) ON PAPER [C&DD]
19 No-hoper mostly failing to catch cock mainly in cage (3-4) HEN-COOP {NO+HOPEr}* over {Cock}
20 Man-eater roaming freely passing over river in spring (7) EMANATE {MAN+EATEr}*
21 Take measure party-wise (6) DOSAGE {DO}{SAGE}
23 Indian agricultural worker from the South in town (5) NASIK<=
Reference List
50 = L, Bishop's diocese = SEE, Training = PE, Noon = N, Marketing = AD, Drink = SUP, River = R, Party = DO
7 down answer GANJA, (telescope
ReplyDelete5d, Primarily c-i-g-a-r-e-t = a whiff. CIGARET. 17a, wine bar, back in airpORT-SIBeria, BISTRO. 12a, Wine, biscuITS-Available partly on counter, ASTI. 6d. RESORTS concocted registers, ROSTERS.
ReplyDelete25 ac adds up, marketing is ads, and drink is sup
ReplyDeleteAdssup? Relook.
Delete13 across
ReplyDeleteOWLET = hooter
Rent = LET,
50 = L
LE T less 50 = ET
LOW, ET anagram = OWLET
Anagrind for LOW becoming OWL? Take a second look.
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DeleteLOW, 50 less OW,
DeleteRent = LET
NOW, OW+LET = OWLET
Mr Padmanabhan, thanks for your critical comment
DeleteNow I ve got the correct annotation for 13 across
8 down is moisture, anagram of suit with extra meaning more
ReplyDeleteIt can't be a straight anagram with a synonym of extra.
ReplyDelete14a SECURE: get hold of
ReplyDeleteSEE: bishop's diocese
CUR: scoundrel
SE(CUR)E
20Dn EMANATE – {MAN EATE(-r)}*
ReplyDelete23D NASIK = town {Indian Agricultural worker KISAN, from south, means reverse}
ReplyDelete10 ac sink in
ReplyDeleteevil-sin blood-kin
21d – {DO}{SAGE}
ReplyDeleteParty – Do
Wise – sage
Do+sage = dosage
Def. a Measured dose
3D SCAPEGOAT - Bunny. SC (extremes of sadistic) APE and GOAT animals
ReplyDelete👌
DeleteExcellent solve!
Delete24a : PENTATHLON = Another athletic event
ReplyDelete(PE)(N)(THAT*)(LON-g)
Training : PE
Noon : N
That" : TATH
Marathon mostly : LON-g
Typo : That* maybe : TATH
Deleteexcellent solve MB sir
DeleteThanks Prasanna 😊
Delete5A Spooner's
ReplyDeletedefender - guard
followed - came
old maid, maybe - CARD GAME(Spooner's guard came)
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ReplyDelete19A. Hyena= Animal
ReplyDeleteHa= laugh
Yen= long
Laugh outside= Ha
H(yen)a
15D CRASH DIET = technique of weight loss (RA)
ReplyDeleteEdit => Diet
Super grid from KKR garu. My COD 28Ac.
ReplyDelete+1 including COD.
DeleteHow about 27Ac
DeleteEqually good as COD
Deletevery intersting grid BY KKR garu.....had many aha moments......
ReplyDeletemy Cod - NASIK,DOSAGE & few
26a Instruments found in radio car in a shed (8)
ReplyDeleteOCARINAS - Instruments [T]
1A- Piss up= Drinking spree
ReplyDeleteDrink over= SIP=<
Drink= Sup
So, Piss up.
Another superb clue. KKR in superb form!!
Excellent solve Paddy sir......I was bit confused in this....
DeleteGreat solve Paddy! 👋
DeleteThank you Prasanna & MB.
Delete2d- intern; def- detain . One after the other is "in turn". When said, sounds as "intern"
ReplyDelete18d - on paper; def - ideally
ReplyDeleteCertainly!
DeleteImho, in the case of newspaper, it's "in (the) paper"
DeleteActually the grid we are seeing is 'on paper', which happens to be in(part of) a news periodical.
Delete"on paper" means "in theory" (as opposed to "in practice"), or "ideally" (as opposed to "in reality"). The definition provided in the clue is appropriate. Regarding the grammar, even when the crossword is in the paper, it is very much on paper, i.e. printed.
DeleteYou should be able to remove it? If it's on. Right?
DeletePun excluding, when you have more than one paper, whoch becomes a booklet, one uses " in".
DeleteSure, one can remove the ink on the paper using an eraser or chemical techniques.
DeleteSomething can be "in" the paper and also "on" the paper, they are not mutually exclusive.
4d PAINFUL: traumatic
ReplyDeleteSleep: NAP: PAN on retirement
Chill essentially is I
I disturbs PAN
We get PAIN
flu shot if FUL
Thus PA(I)N FUL
28a - either; def - one of two
ReplyDeleteFrom "One in number"; one - "i" in "three" a number - I.e., anagram of three & i
ReplyDeleteMy anno was different
DeleteNumber is Either. I in Ether is either.
There is no anagram indicator
my take was
Deleteone - I
two + one = three
E{I}THER*
Read 'Number is Ether' in my comment.
DeleteVeena is right. Ether numbs and so 'Numb'er
Deleteether refers to organic compounds. more over one of two is directly gives the meaning of either. setter specifically stated one in number. number is 3. and one is insetred in three. setter to confirm
DeleteWow, I thought plus (somehow has to be anagrind.
DeleteOne inserted in three will not give either: there is no anagram indicator. And even if there was, it would be an indirect anagram
Deleteword play is too tricky. solver's perception was different. but, As paddy says it might be right. have to go with Veena's anno.
DeleteRole of plus is not clear though. Didn't think it would be an Anagrind
Deletederived the the anno. in 3 ways...1- one of two = either=DD ; 2. 'in number ' we can say it as 'there' and insert 'i' in there* = either ; 3. 2+1=3 - three and insert 'i" in three = either
Delete'One of two' is the def.
DeletePlus is AND here
Delete@Prasanna Rao...regarding your proposed annos
DeleteThe clue reads...
28 One of two plus one in númber (6) EITHER
1. It cannot be a DD. If the first definition is "one of two", the second definition has to be "two plus one in number" which is not a definition of either.
2. If "in number" = there, then this is an anagram clue without an anagrind. I think we can be sure KKR would set an anagrind for an anagram clue.
3. Similarly, if "two plus one" = "three" as anagram fodder, it would be an indirect anagram, which we can be sure KKR would avoid.
The most likely intended anno from the setter is as follows.
Definition = One of two
plus = link word
one = letter I
in = containment indicator
númber = ETHER.
I in ETHER = {E{I}THER}
As ether is an anaesthetic, it numbs. Therefore it is a number. Similar to how river = flower, ram = butter, cow = lower, etc. in crosswords.
Thnaks Mr KKR. Fully understood. All the way I cracked with anagram. Hats off to you for the excellent wordplay.
Delete27a, position = backdrop
ReplyDeleteSecond = back
Slip = drop
Second slip is deceptive- makes you think of cricket!
DeleteTrue
Delete16d VIA MEDIA = A way between extremes
ReplyDeleteVIA = Through
MEDIA = Press
22 CMON
ReplyDeleteDefinition Encouraging expression
compound periodically - C M O N
22A. Encouraging expression = C'MON. From "CoMpOuNd" (periodically)
ReplyDeleteIn lieu of 22A.
ReplyDelete9A. T (from "thieves") inside "sealing" (tightening) = STEALING = shoplifting
11 Ac and a couple of anno questions(25A & 8D) pending.
ReplyDelete8D- Mo(istu)*re
ReplyDeleteAnagram of suit in More gives Moisture with jogging ad Anand.
Extra= More
25A- Add- homonym of Ad
ReplyDeletedrink= Sup
Adds up
Def. is ' Makes sense'.
Marketing to advertisement to ad? And then hp!
DeleteThink we had this discussion and gen consensus was "not adv"
I see no problem with the HP of ~ad sup = ADDS UP.
DeleteAn ad is an instance of marketing.
11a, They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle = Armed Force
ReplyDeletePerimeters essentially = me
(Cared for me)* = armed force
11A They cared for perimeters essentially in struggle - ARMED FORCES
ReplyDeletecared for + em(perMEters essentially) *
in struggle(anagrind)
Semi&lit?
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DeleteTypos corrected by KRM @14:03.
Delete11A ARMED FORCE = (entire clue is defn)
ReplyDelete(CARED FOR + ME )*
ME (periMEters essentially)
in struggle = anagrind
Semi &Lit?
DeleteQuite a difficult puzzle from KKR, it was tough to get started with a poorly-connected grid that splits into top- and bottom-halves connected by only 2 clues. The wordplay was excellent and many of the clues were praise-worthy. After spotting the letter J in 7D, I thought it might be a pangram but was mistaken.
ReplyDelete1A PISS UP had amazing wordplay...it was clear to me from the start it had something to do with SUP, TEA, CHA, GIN, or the like, but to finally get the anno was a solver's delight. 2A CARD GAME was tough - I had to google "old maid" to see what it was. "Evil blood" for 10A {SIN}{KIN} was incredible, as was "second slip" for {BACK}{DROP} in 27A. I knew 13A was OWLET but struggled to get the anno as I had mistakenly taken {low}{rent} as [anagram fodder][anagrind]. It turned out to be simpler than I had expected. 19A was a nice charade and semi&lit. 25A was a satisfying HP, as was 1D. In 5D, the unconventional spelling threw me off but I was able to verify it easily.
6D was an unexpectedly tough clue! I had initially marked registers = STORERS (as in cash registers store cash). It made me stuck and I was unable to get 10A for a long time. Later I decided that no, it must be SORTERS, as cash registers sort the various denominations of cash. It was only after a long time that I realised the solution must be ROSTERS.
In 8D, "jogging suit" as [anagrind][fodder] was a clever feint by the setter. The RA for 15D CRASH DIET was also surprisingly hard, as with the bottom crossings came also the possibility of SMASH DIET. 18D ON PAPER and 23D NASIK were amusing and felt rewarding to solve. 19D and 20D were two very similar clues involving taking an anagram after deleting one character.
11A could have avoided wordplay in the past-tense (ref: Gussalufz' article on 'cryptic grammar'). Similarly, "taking" would have been better cryptic grammar in 4D. The word 'that' was grammatically out-of-place in the surface of 24A.
Does anybody have a good reference for scapegoat = BUNNY as in 3D? I was unable to spot it in Chambers online.
Bunny is more from Down under.should gave had a indi.
DeleteDifficult and tough to get it even after getting a couple of answers.
Delete19A wasn't a semi. & lit.
Animal = h(yen)a
Get in(not get it). Typo.
DeleteHi Econ,
DeleteThanks for your lengthy message. My responses:
1. In my Chambers Thesaurus, scapegoat [noun] has: victim, whipping-boy, sucker
colloq. fall guy; Aust bunny; slang N American patsy
and in Chambers Dictionary: bunny [noun]
A young rabbit, esp a pet name for one (also bunny rabbit)
A simpleton, a scapegoat (Aust inf)
2. I am not sure whether you meant 11A in the last para. "cared for" is anagram fodder.
3. In 4D, I don't find any issue here. it was like a statement made by someone in the first part. The second part is like a suggestion.
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ReplyDeleteMany thanks to you all for the comments.
ReplyDeleteNice grid KKR. I actually found it very easy. Except CMON which was the last to fall. My fav - EITHER, BACK DROP, SCAPE GOAT.
ReplyDeleteThanx.
Thanks Gowri
DeleteExcellent CWP from KKR garu 👏
ReplyDeleteThanks Ramesh garu
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