Friday, 8 September 2023

No 13965, Friday 08 Sep 2023, Incognito

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ACROSS
8   Fight about European clothes (4) WEAR {W{E}AR}
9   Graduate hugs pale master in Kenya (5) BWANA {B{WAN}A}
10 Cooking equipment from Coventry (4) OVEN [T]
11 For example, Jupiter's aircraft model (6) PLANET {PLANE}{T}
12 Can court start to use recorded evidence? This is the essence... (8) TINCTURE {TIN}{CT}{Use}{Re...d}{Ev...e}
13 Mount damaged ladder kept behind service truck initially (8) STRADDLE {Se...e}{Tr..k}{LADDER*}
15 Radio enthusiast permitted a play (6) HAMLET {HAM}{LET}
17 Score more than 80 (7) HUNDRED {80+20 = 100}
19 After bath, Neil walks dog (7) SPANIEL {SPA}{NEIL*}
22 Scrape away some candelabra debris (6) ABRADE [T]
24 Take care of toad hopping around damaged tent (6,2) ATTEND TO {TOAD*} over {TENT*}
26 Egyptian peasant dropped a hint to some extent (8) FELLAHIN {FELL}{A}{HINt}
28 Drops plant parts (6) LEAVES [DD]
30 Forbid capturing eastern animal (4) BEAR {B{E}AR}
31 Gardner's lawyer's builder (5) MASON [DD]
32 Old silver with newspaper boss (4) AGED {AG}{ED}

DOWN
1   That chap is accompanied by the Spanish bounder (4) HEEL {HE}{EL}
2   Dipsomaniac and medico at UN beginning to kiss on a road (8) DRUNKARD {DR}{UN}{Kiss}{A}{RD}
3   Sailor consumed a drop of drink and slacked off (6) ABATED {AB}{ATE}{Dr..k}
4   Hot inside gas emitter that is a longer distance away (7) FARTHER {FART{H}ER}
5   Shown app designed in uncle's place (8) PAWNSHOP*
6   After interactive program, Thomas is behind (6) BOTTOM {BOT}{TOM}
7   Fruit and vegetable, right? (4) PEAR {PEA}{R}
14 General's opposer on hand (5) THUMB [CD]
16 Evening before book ceremony, for example (5) EVENT {EVE}{NT}
18 Come home, for example, for words spelled similarly but pronounced differently (3,5) EYE RHYME [Definition by example]
20 Pushed corgi out of conflagration... injured... will not lead to death (3-5) NON-FATAL coNFLAgrATiON*
21 Disappear carrying recipe for liquid coating material (7) VARNISH {VA{R}NISH}
23 Temptation everyone at old place experienced in the beginning (6) ALLURE {ALL}{UR}{Ex...d}
25 Gift old Roman and Greek currency (6) TALENT [DD]
27 First lady's new flat (4) EVEN {EVE}{N}
29 Animals kept in new estate (4) EWES [T]

Reference List
European = E, Model = T, Court = CT, Radio enthusiast = HAM, Eastern = E, Newspaper boss = ED, The in Spanish = EL, Sailor = AB, Hot = H, Interactive program = BOT, Right = R, Book = NT(New Testament), Recipe = R, Old place = UR, New = N


64 comments:

  1. 4D. FARTHER - H(hot) inside FARTER (gas emitter)
    22A. ABRADE - telescopic
    15A. HAMLET - HAM (radio enthusiast) + LET (permitted) = a play by William Shakespeare
    20D. NON LETHAL - CONFLAGARATION - CORGI
    32A. AGED - AG (silver) + ED (editor = newspaper boss)

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  2. Please check the solution for 20d

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    1. He just missed mentioning it is an anagram though he meant it.
      (Conflagration- corgi)*
      What a mighty deletion!

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    2. Solution itself is incorrect Paddy, check emu.

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    3. Just noticed. I had filled in correctly in my print edition. Double checked after your comments.

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  4. 17 Score more than 80 (7)
    HUNDRED [CD]

    19 After bath, Neil walks dog (7)
    {SPA}{NEIL*} = SPANIEL

    22 Scrape away some candelabra debris (6)
    ABRADE [T]

    24 Take care of toad hopping around damaged tent (6,2)
    {TOAD*} around {TENT*} = ATTEND TO

    26 Egyptian peasant dropped a hint to some extent (8)
    FELLAHIN {FELL=dropped} + {AHINt}

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    1. All downs! Forgot to label them

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    2. 17d clue classification can be better.

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    3. @Prasad how so? 17D is not a DD. Do you mean &lit? In that way every CD must be &lit. I don't think this clue is GK (although most people should know 80+20) nor is it Easy/non-cryptic.

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    1. you have solved 14 clues. please go through the rules. only 5 puzzles per solver.

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  7. I find some over enthusiastic cruciverbalists to overshoot more than 5 clues. Most of the solutions were not explained or broken down.

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  8. 20d. Conflagration minus corgi leaves you with the anagram of letters ( nflaaton). The solution is non fatal , which means it doesn't lead to death.

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  9. 3d. Sailor=ab
    Consumed =ate.
    Drop of drink =d. Hence the answer is abated. Slacked off.

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  11. 11a - {PLANE}{T}
    def: Jupiter - Planet
    aircraft - plane
    model - T

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  12. 12Ac TINCTURE – {TIN}{CT}{U(-se)R(-ecorded)E(-vidence)}

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  13. 31a MASON: builder
    Gardner: Earle Stanley Gardner of Perry Mason fame
    His lawyer: Perry MASON

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  14. 18d, Eye Rhyme = solution [& lit]
    - come home , for example, for words spelled similarly but pronounced differently [& lit]

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  15. 9a BWANA = Master in Kenya
    B A = graduate
    WAN = pale
    Hugs Contain. Ind

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  16. 17A Score more than 80 - HUNDRED
    score - 20
    more than 80: (20+80)=100
    C&DD?

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  17. 6D BOTTOM = after
    BOT = interactive program
    TOM = Thomas

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  18. 16d EVENT (EVE)(NT)
    Evening : EVE
    Book : NT(New Testament)
    Def : Ceremony, for example

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  19. After interactive program, Thomas is behind (6)
    BOTTOM - behind
    {bot}{tom}

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  20. 10A. Cooking equipment = OVEN. From cOVENtry

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  21. If you ignore the deluge @9:54 there will be more

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    1. I took one out of the deluge which had no anno.

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    2. Deluge or not, if there is no attempt to annotate or if the anno is too off the mark, soemone else can take it.
      Only when amenable to correction (not rewrite) ones should be hinted to the original attempt.
      Remember answers are always avaible online.

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  22. 2D- Drunkard- Dipsomaniac- Dr un k a rd
    dr= Medico, Kiss=k, road= rd

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  23. 1D yet to be answered.

    Of the 14 answers provided by @kripa singan 7 didn't have proper annotations. Three have since been solved.
    Ac 13 and Dn 2, 14, 27, 29 need annos.

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    1. 1d answered by Kripa Singan at 9:55

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    2. I don't see it. Maybe deleted?

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    3. It wasn’t one of the 14 answered at 9:54. Separately answered at 9:55

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    4. I see 8A @9:55.

      Anyway
      1D That chap - HE
      is accompanied by
      the Spanish - EL
      bounder(def) - HEEL

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  24. 13A mount(def) - STRADDLE
    damaged ladder*
    kept behind (s)ervice (t)ruck initially
    (S)(T)(RADDLE*)

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  25. 14 d THUMB : opposed on hand
    General: General Tom Thumb (Charles Sherwood Stratton, circus perform's stage name)

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  26. Performer instead of perform’s

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  27. Sorry for correcting typo from somebody else’s solution.

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  28. Incognito tends use this particular grid design with fragmented corners and longer words appearing in the middle. Of the four common base patterns used in cryptic grids, this one has the maximum number of black squares. This design yields 32 clues, with 8 clues being 4-letter words and no solutions having more than 8 letters.

    The word BWANA (9A) has appeared at least 9 times previously in THC, with at least 3 of the prior usages coming from Incognito! The last time we saw it was in No 13792, Saturday 18 Feb 2023, Afterdark. The setter's toilet humour returned with 4D FARTHER this time as opposed to FARTHING from one month ago (26D in No 13939, Wednesday 09 Aug 2023, Incognito).

    24A had a nice visual surface. 26A FELLAHIN was an unusual word with a good surface reading of the clue. The reference to Perry MASON in 31A was interesting, although it would have been better if Gardner had been indicated as a proper noun - I spent some time wondering whether it was a typo for "gardener". I had to google for 16D EYE RHYME, which was an interesting topic to research.

    Is 12A TINCTURE "the essence" (as defined in the clue) or "an essence"? Is 1D HEEL a "bounder" like "cow" is "lower", "ram" is "butter" and rivers are "flowers"?

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    1. Heel is a synonym of bounder as in a despicable person. From dictionary reference.

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  29. Thoroughly enjoyed Incognito puzzles. Thanks to Col.sir for Friday's specials.

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  30. The/ an for Tincture.
    Whenever you suggest a change keep in mind the surface reading. An will not st all suit and the is not far off the mark gor cryptic.

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    1. My point is that a precise definition should not be sacrificed in favour of a slick surface reading.

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    2. No sacrifice. Kust have to identify the actaul def!!?

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    4. Re: 12A
      Don't know how the setters see it.
      But from a language(solver's) perspective the ellipsis(...) following essence takes care of any ambiguities. 🤔

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    5. 12 Can court start to use recorded evidence? This is the essence... (8)
      Solution = {TIN}{CT}{URE}
      Can = TIN
      Court = CT
      start to Use Recorded Evidence = URE (acrostic)

      If the Definition = "This is the essence", then grammatically it is better to say "an essence"

      If the definition = "Essence", then "this is the" is neither part of definition nor wordplay and is without a job. If you consider the view that a good clue contains a precise definition, fair subsidiary indication and nothing else, then stray link words don't make for good clues.

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