Saturday, 11 May 2013

No 10770, Saturday 11 May 13, Klue Klux Klan

 Stumped by 1A and 2D.

ACROSS
1   Represent auditor’s instrument (6) CYMBAL (~symbol) - See comments
4   Greeting one with a sausage (6) SALAMI {SALAM}{1}
9   A kitty backs an antelope? (4) TOPI {TOP}{1}<=
10 Following on, lower order precedes former English captain who lost toss first (10) TAILGATING {TAIL}{GATtING}
11 Concert of single boy (6) UNISON {UNI}{SON}
12 Insult led to island being detached (8) DISCRETE {DIS}{CRETE}
13 Iron sign used to indicate shelf location … (9) PRESSMARK {PRESS}{MARK}
15 … to store holy man’s remains (5) STASH {ST}{ASH}
16 Free couple with revolutionary sex appeal … (5) UNTIE UN{TI<=}E Anno not clear (Addendum -{UN{IT<=}E} - See comments)
18 … housed with liquor in bed (9) BARRACKED {B{ARRACK}ED}
22 Ridiculer with an eye for a musician (8) SITARIST S{I}TARIST Anno pending (Addendum - {S(-a+i)IT(-i+a)ARIST - See comments)
23 Antelopes found in New York, unfortunately (6) NYALAS {NY}{ALAS}
25 Checked out toilet with fly partly intact, partly open (6,4) LOOKED INTO {LOO}{KED} {INTact} {Open}
26 Has Oscar winner Anne lost out? (4) HATH HATHaway
27 Decapitate orients gruesomely with a tuck (6) INSERT oRIENTS*
28 Chap caught beheading grandmother (6) CRANNY {C}{gRANNY}

DOWN
1   Medical examiner backed choice of singer (7) CROONER {C(-o)R(+o)OONER} How does  indicate 'O' ? (Addendum - {C(OR<=)ONER} - See comments)
2   Disfigures, beheads upset Algonquian for dollar (5) MAIMS  Anno pending {(-i}MAIM<=}{S} - See comments
3   The opposite of Cleopatra’s lover, Mark (7) ANTONYM {ANTONY}{M}
5   Oscar winning movie about safely evacuated merchant ships (6) ARGOSY {ARGO}{SafelY}
6   Worker at North Pole travels to the South Pole (9) ANTARCTIC {ANT}{ARCTIC}
7   Cop dances in set lights (7) IGNITES {IG}{NITES*}
8   Schools where dark inners get soiled (13) KINDERGARTENS*
14 Jackets for Bob in Arkansas without any new seams initially (3,6) SKI PARKAS {SKI P}{ARKansAS}
17 Malayali old boy in an African city (7) NAIROBI {NAIR}{OB}{1}
19 Show resentment when harassed, uncared-for, not fed (7) RANCOUR {UNCARed+fOR}*
20 Just take it out of the empty library (7) EXACTLY {EXACT}{LibrarY}
21 Fragment left when fantasy heroine divorces Fitzgerald, the singer (6) CINDER CINDERella
24 She’s in an anaemic state (5) ASHEN {A{SHE}N}

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34 comments:

  1. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:33

    Before the gang wishes me a Happy Birthday on the basis of the info on this blog, let me admit that the date stated is the ‘official’ one and to be summarily ignored.

    Re: 22A I am not sure if the clue talks of exchange of letters between the Satirist and the Sitarist, it only talks of an I for an A.

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    1. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:42

      And not a swap/exchange. No mention of I becoming A.

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  2. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:34

    1A Represent auditor’s instrument (6) CYMBAL ~SYMBOL

    1D Medical examiner backed choice of singer (7) CROONER {C(-o)R(+o)OONER} How does indicate 'O' ? I think backed choice means that OR is reversed

    2d MAIMS fits but I don’t have the anno

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  3. Richard11 May 2013 at 08:34

    22A - Anno not clear to me either. But could it have something to do with SATIRIST?

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    1. Richard11 May 2013 at 08:35

      Yes, Kishore's 8-33 confirms interchange of I and A.

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  4. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:35

    16 Free couple with revolutionary sex appeal … (5) UN(IT)E to UNTIE

    22 Ridiculer with an eye for a musician (8) SITARIST from SATIRIST

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  5. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:35

    16 Free couple with revolutionary sex appeal … (5) UNTIE UN{TI<=}E Anno not clear

    Couple= UNITE
    rev s a= reversal of IT
    def= free

    So what you have stated is fine

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  6. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:36

    Couple of ants eloping today !

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  7. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:37

    16 Free couple with revolutionary sex appeal … (5) UN(IT)E to UNTIE

    22 Ridiculer with an eye for a musician (8) SITARIST from SATIRIST Exchange I for A

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  8. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:39

    2 DN: MAIMS. Miami is an Algonquin. Upset & beheading: (-I) MAIM + S (dollar)

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    1. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:45

      I would put it like this:

      Upset= rev of MIAMI = IMAIM
      and then decap- MAIM

      Upset in the sense of anagram would be a tad unfair and there would be 120 anagrams to make before decap.

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    2. Deepak Gopinath11 May 2013 at 08:47

      Doesnt look correct. If you behead MIAMI you will lose the M and not the I

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    3. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:48

      Kishore, That's what I meant. I did not say it was an anagram. I overlooked adding the <- sign before 'S'.

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    4. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:48

      On reading up about the Miami language, I understand that the name is an autonym. Konkani people use a similar one: Amchigele to refer to 'our people' and the language itself

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    5. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:49

      Upset: IMAIM <- , Decapitate: -I MAIM add S

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    6. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:52

      Still a wee bit far-fetched, methinks

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    7. Deepak Gopinath11 May 2013 at 08:56

      The 'for' in the clue is misleading

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    8. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:57

      WITH would have been a better fit.

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    9. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 09:01

      Farfetched, it is to get Miami from Algonquin. I saw the meaning of Alg... and worked back the anno.

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  9. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 08:45

    1 Represent auditor’s instrument (6)CYMBAL ~ Symbol

    Represent: SYMBOLISE, whereas Symbol is Representation.

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    1. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:53

      Agree with you perfectly on that

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  10. Shrikanth11 May 2013 at 08:50

    Few tough ones today. :(

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  11. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:50

    20 Just take it out of the empty library (7) EXACTLY {EXACT}{LibrarY}

    The empty library reminded me a famous line by detective Sidney Wang (played by Peter Sellers)in the movie 'Murder by Death':

    A room full of empty people

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    1. Richard11 May 2013 at 08:55

      Reminded me of a hungry person saying 'My stomach is completely empty'...

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  12. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 08:55

    23 Antelopes found in New York, unfortunately (6) NYALAS {NY}{ALAS}

    Could remind Raju of the Nyali bridge in MSA

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  13. Raghunath11 May 2013 at 09:18

    22 Ridiculer with an eye for a musician (8) SITARIST S{I}TARIST Anno pending (Addendum - {S(-a+i)IT(-i+a)ARIST
    How is `eye' = I, w/o ~ indicator?
    25 Checked out toilet with fly partly intact, partly open (6,4) LOOKED INTO {LOO}{KED} {INTact} {Open}
    Wonder about the `O’ for partly open?
    17 Malayali old boy in an African city (7) NAIROBI {NAIR}{OB}{1}
    An : 1 Acceptable?

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    1. VJ11 May 2013 at 12:22

      17, First off, I'm not happy with "in" being used as a charade indicator either. And fairness of A = I and AN = I is questionable.

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  14. Anonymous11 May 2013 at 09:26

    A bit of black humour today:

    Klue Klux Klan beheading an Alongquin

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  15. Padmanabhan11 May 2013 at 09:28

    2D- Micmac is also Algonquin. Maybe this has some connection. But I am not sure how to connect. I leave it to the experts!

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  16. VJ11 May 2013 at 12:28

    This is one helluva violent puzzle. A couple of beheadings and decapitations here and there. An example of crossword befitting a setter's name I reckon.

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  17. Klue Klux Klan11 May 2013 at 15:09

    What ho!

    A few clarifications are in order, I believe.

    First, symbol for represent: I thought that in usage such as X symbols Y was alright. Perhaps that part of speech in this clue was not OK but I put it there for the surface.

    In the sitarist clue, I thought that 'for' itself was sufficient yo indicate the exchange. However, I am inclined, now, to agree with your reservations. Apologies for that.

    One/an/a for 'I', I, personally, as a solver, do not have a problem with but if there are some questions of fairness, I must consult more experienced setters then.

    Partially open for O, I do not think is not alright.

    Finally, on the maims clue, I did have doubts when I did make the clue but thought that while solving, it could be deciphered.

    Thank you for the dissection of the clues. Any further feedback on the general level and clueing of the puzzles would be great!


    Cheers

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    1. VJ11 May 2013 at 15:47

      "Finally, on the maims clue, I did have doubts when I did make the clue but thought that while solving, it could be deciphered. "

      Hi Klue, a friendly word of advice. Any clue can somehow be deciphered either with the help of crossings or some lateral thinking, by stretching a bit. As a setter one should look to lay everything out very clearly - IOW, it should all be there for the solver to arrive at the solution without any ambiguity. The answer should throw itself at the solver.

      And you'd want to avoid intrusive for's in wordplay - liked used in 2D

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  18. Navneeth11 May 2013 at 20:46

    A slightly off-topic comment.

    Could someone please provide me the link to "that Long List" which was posted a couple of years ago?

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    1. RameshJ11 May 2013 at 22:24

      http://mythic-beasts.com/~mark/random/indicators/ has a vesrion, but be aware of the pit falls using that list to set CWs

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