Thursday, 28 July 2022

No 13620, Thursday 28 Jul 2022, Karaoke

Solution to 9A has been deliberately left unsolved and is to be answered only by a non-regular / novice commenter, with proper annotation. Those who have answered earlier in the week, please give others a chance.

ACROSS
9   Moneylender without initial capital remains loose (7) U?L?A?H (Addendum - UNLEASH {UNcLE}{ASH} - See comments)
10 Cryptic clue form occasionally with comma in the end causes problem to the eye (7) LEUCOMA {CLUE*}{fOrM}{c..mA}
11 Fruit mostly eaten by the great ape (5) ORANG ORANGe
12 Check for errors in the evidence and interpret (9) PROOFREAD {PROOF}{READ}
13 Suitable for occupation by mostly intern ladies in a mess (11) RESIDENTIAL {INTERn+LADIES}*
16 Able-bodied incognito did no job essentially at sea (2,4,9) IN GOOD CONDITION {INCOGNITO+DID+NO+jOb}*
18 Narcissistic damselfish? (4-7) SELF-CENTRED How do we classify this clue?  Definition by example. See comments.
22 Puzzled lots (4,2,3) LOST AT SEA {LOTS}* [RA]
24 Silly soldiers chase some booze (5) BARMY {ARMY}<=>{Bo..e}
25 Capital's appearance influenced by rich islands (7) NAIROBI {N{AIR}OB}{I}
26 Left-over uniform, clean up (7) UNEATEN {U}{NEATEN}

DOWN
1   Sudoku solved without you? Say congratulations! (5) KUDOS SUDOKu*
2   50 in bill for fish (5) BLEAK {B{L}EAK}
3   Go off with anorak for boomer (8) KANGAROO {GO+ANORAK}*
4   Thrash women at work consuming heroin (4) WHOP {W}{H}{OP}
5   Pablo odd on ordering sandwiches for the life-giver (5,5) BLOOD DONOR [T]
6   Miss India cake (6) MUFFIN {MUFF}{IN}
7   Producing hit movies? Doctor sometimes does this (4,5) HOME VISIT*
8   It slices vegetables, powders almond at home (8) MANDOLIN {ALMOND*}{IN}
14 Player's double fault (6-4) SECOND-SLIP {SECOND}{SLIP} Second slip is a position and not a player per-se. See comments.
15 Agile cast played without laughing (9) AGELASTIC*
16 Mainly vodka is missing on the rocks? How rude! (8) INSOLENT INSOLvENT
17 Thankful truly to accommodate bishop and knight finally (8) INDEBTED {INDE{B}{k...hT}ED}
19 Waxwork done with this from cosmic ray only (6) CRAYON [T]
20 White House initially arrested spy for fury (5) WRATH {W}{RAT}{Ho..e}
21 First of all, have you ever noticed an animal that laughs? (5) HYENA Acrostic
23 Tree's branch hides nut essentially (4) ARUM {AR{nUt}M}

Reference List
Rich = NOB, Islands = I, Uniform = U, 50 = L, Women = W, Heroin = H, India = IN, Bishop = B, White = W, Spy = RAT

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62 comments:

  1. Rajan28 July 2022 at 08:50

    9AC: Loose = UNLEASH. Monyeylender = Uncle". Without C = UNLE. Remains = ASH. UNLEASH

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  2. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 08:55

    14DN I have dictionary def. as below: "The meaning of SECOND SLIP is a fielding position in cricket near to and on the off side of first slip; also : a player fielding in this position."

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    1. Col_Gopinath28 July 2022 at 09:00

      Agreed. My comment is not warranted. Even in Bridge, players are called North, South etc which is their position

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    2. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 09:25

      In fact, I had this as my COD.

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  3. Badri28 July 2022 at 09:05

    Nice grid, enjoyed solving got 95% especially 22a so very happy. Liked 12a as well. Doubt on 11a is eaten part of the word play or just for surface?

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  4. D.Chandrasekhar28 July 2022 at 09:18

    18A Definition by Location ??

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    1. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 09:25

      Definition by example?

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    2. Col_Gopinath28 July 2022 at 09:32

      Chandrasekhar, there is no indicator for location so it can't be that.
      Paddy, what is the example?

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    3. Ramesh Kosaraju 28 July 2022 at 10:00

      This comment has been removed by the author.

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    4. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 10:11

      I intended it as DBE as Paddy guessed. SELF is exactly in the centre of damselfish

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    5. Ramesh Kosaraju 28 July 2022 at 10:51

      General comment
      Any clue that does not conform to a single pattern (or category) may perhaps be called INNOVATIVE clue!

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    6. Vasant28 July 2022 at 11:55

      These are classified as Novelty clues. Some of the classic ones that I remember are:
      1. Gegs (9,4)
      2. O (8,6)
      3. HIJKLMNO (5) and its variant ONMLKJIH (4-5)

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    7. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 11:59

      Self is centred in damSELFish.

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    8. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 12:05

      Vasant- clarification
      1. Scrambled Eggs
      2. ??? oxygen?
      3. Water & Backwater?

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    9. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 12:22

      Paddy, you are correct. No.1 was by Gridman, I think. No. 3 is super solve. No. 2 yet to crack

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    10. Ramesh Kosaraju 28 July 2022 at 12:25

      2 With a different enumeration
      O (4,6) is LOVE LETTER

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    11. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 12:38

      Circular letter?

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    12. Vasant28 July 2022 at 12:48

      Circular Letter is right!

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  5. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 09:26

    Only a couple of days back I was thinking that we have not heard from KKR for a long time.
    Happy to do your nice CW.

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    1. D.Chandrasekhar28 July 2022 at 09:36

      Indeed i had the same thought

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    2. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 10:14

      Thanks. I was little busy with some family functions and hence not active for a week.

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  6. D.Chandrasekhar28 July 2022 at 09:35

    Good crossword. Bordering Kishore's. Thank u KKR garu

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  7. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 09:40

    liked Miss India too! Had a good laugh when it dawned on me.

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  8. Ramesh Kosaraju 28 July 2022 at 09:54

    Probably first time, I could solve 90% of KKR's crossie. Liked 22a RA, 26a Charade, 14d and 21d - the Definition 'animal that laughs?'

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    1. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 10:15

      Thanks Ramesh. I am happy about your performance

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  9. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 10:40

    Thanks Sathia

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  10. Mukundala Balasubramanyam28 July 2022 at 10:46

    Delightful crossie, Thanks KKR garu!
    My favs... 9A, 22A, 25A.


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  11. sree_sree28 July 2022 at 12:42

    Excellent crossie except for two naggets!
    12a Chambers.co.uk has Proof v meaning proofread. Def a Root problem.
    18d centred is a US spelling. Plus centred being adjective should come before noun!


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    1. Gowri28 July 2022 at 13:06

      @ Prasad! For once i thought the same about both the above.
      Am I inching towards a better understanding of clues & cluing?? 😊

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    2. Gowri28 July 2022 at 13:07

      I, ofcourse, was not confident enough to post my doubts!!

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    3. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 13:27

      self-centred adjective
      /ˌself ˈsentəd/
      /ˌself ˈsentərd/
      (US English self-centered)

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    4. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 13:28

      The above is from OED

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    5. Kolluru Koteswara Rao28 July 2022 at 14:10

      Thanks Prasad for your views.
      I don't know how there is a root issue here. It's a simple charade clue.
      Why you are looking into the word [usage could be American]. It is very much there in almost all dictionaries. Do you mean to say the dictionaries are wrong? We will find several such words [like self-conscious]. Particularly, this clue, being different from routine, you have to take it as it comes, ha ha.

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    6. Col_Gopinath28 July 2022 at 14:18

      Centred is British spelling. Centered is American spelling.

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    7. Gowri28 July 2022 at 14:33

      I have 2 doubts.
      1. Proof reading is nothing but checking for errors against the original document (which is the proof).
      Hence i thought Proof & proof reading have the same root.
      2. If the answer is PROOF READ & a part of the clue leads to the word PROOF - is this really a root issue?

      Or is it that the clue should not directly contain a word which may be the root of the answer.

      Kindly clarify when u have time.

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    8. Gowri28 July 2022 at 14:35

      Reg Centred - i had some confusion over the spellings - Thanx Colonel!
      Self centred is a compound word which totally forms an adjective.
      Self centered man.
      If centered is the adjective, it has to precede the noun, I thought.

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    9. sree_sree28 July 2022 at 17:30

      Thanks col on the spelling. Stand corrected.

      As an experiment, "damselfish" itself would have worked. (No need for narcissist!). Dam selfish as def is enough! (Anyways "self in the centre" (centred self) to self centred would be gettable by avg solver. So agree with the leeway)

      But proofread is an issue. Because proof(ing) can replace proofread(ing) in any sentence. It's just that read here is a qualifier. And the charade is simply cluing the two words directly with synonyms. And the definition "check for errors" is actually applicable to any proof/test. Need not necessarily for reading.

      As I said naggets.

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  12. R Nagendra Prasad28 July 2022 at 13:30

    Excellent and entertaining crossword from KKRji today. Loved solving.

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  13. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 13:32

    Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) printing a trial impression made from composed type, or a print-out (from a laser printer, etc.) for the correction of errors
    This from Free Dic. I checked up OED as well. No mention of proof read,
    IMO,proof and proof read are 2 diff.things

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    1. sree_sree28 July 2022 at 17:33

      From chambers.co.uk for
      Proof:
      verb (proofed, proofing) 1 to make something resistant to or proof against a specified thing. Often in compounds • to damp-proof the walls. 2 to take a proof of (printed material). 3 to proof-read.

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  14. sree_sree28 July 2022 at 17:41

    Staying on novelty

    Isolated place: El Asmada? (9)'

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  15. VMA Nair28 July 2022 at 20:47

    Nice puzzle. Liked many especially Hyena. Some doubts

    11 A - Fruit mostly eaten by the great ape (5) ORANG ORANGe

    mostly eaten = delete all but last letter rather than keeping them

    If 'by' is a connector, it should be 'definition by wordplay' not 'Wordplay by definition'

    12 A - is not quite cryptic.

    14 D - Player's double fault (6-4) SECOND-SLIP
    How double = second?

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  16. Padmanabhan28 July 2022 at 21:58

    Double is not second, but double fault is second slip.
    KRK had explained above that eaten itself is there only for surface reading (not sure if you will agree with it) So it is fruit mostly giving orang.

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    1. VMA Nair28 July 2022 at 22:05

      No Paddy, not in favor of adding redundant words (which affect cryptic grammar) just for the surface.

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    2. Satyen Nabar28 July 2022 at 22:34

      Hi! There is nothing to debate about. You cannot add words because it helps surface reading. The word 'eaten' is extraneous. Period. The setter could simply have said 'finally eaten/consumed'.

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    3. Satyen Nabar28 July 2022 at 22:40

      And yes, the point about 'by' is also valid.

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    4. Kolluru Koteswara Rao29 July 2022 at 06:37

      Thanks all for the inputs.
      Ajeesh, "second" is "double" as per Chambers Thesaurus.

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    5. VMA Nair29 July 2022 at 06:47

      Yes, I see double under second (adj) though second is not listed under double in Chambers. Thanks

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    6. Kolluru Koteswara Rao29 July 2022 at 07:58

      Under "double" it is listed [as verb] below:
      2 double as someone/something
      have a second job/purpose, have a dual/second role, do/function also

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  17. Prasanna Rao28 July 2022 at 22:43

    Interesting clues KKR garu. Many aha moments. 50% solved in wee hours. rest solved few min. ago. 22a,12a & 14D took more time. overall enjoyed by solving your grid.

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  18. Amita Baviskar29 July 2022 at 00:19

    A tough and enjoyable puzzle. However, 23D: ARUM is not a tree; it's a plant.

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  19. Kolluru Koteswara Rao29 July 2022 at 06:40

    Thanks for pointing out. Yes, it is a plant. Apologies

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