ACROSS
1 - Moved with speed — spoke, dismissing girl and son (7) -disCOURSED
5 - Clean, darling youngster (6) - {MOP}{PET}
9 - Musician begins playing in support (5) - {PI{P}ER}
10 - And the German queen, rather rife, is exposed to criticism (5,4) - {UND}{ER}{ {FIRE*}
11 - Warm entrance of head of roisterers in production of Hamlet (7) - {THE{R}MAL*}
12 - His mate propagated disbelief in the existence of god (7) - ATHEISM*
13 - Thin network Koshy's emptied (5) -{LAN}{KoshY}
14 - Gen and scribe wander in the theatre (3,6) - BIG SCREEN*
16 - Clean mad about a great engineering work in the Black Canyon of the Colorado River (6,3) - {HOOVER} {DAM*}
19 - Console the alien leaving the ministry (5) - CABINet
21 - Exploits, almost ready, bad and singular (3-4) - {RIPe}-{OFF}{S}
23 - Notice is put in streets: bad men are here! (7) - {S{AD}{IS}TS}
24 - Parsee not translating language (9) - ESPERANTO*
25 - Am completely backing the beast (5) - {LLA}{MA}<-
26 - Bengali leader fires off memorandums (6) - {B}{RIEFS}
27 - Dog uncle on return and fight! (7) - {MAS<-}{TIFF}
DOWN
1 - The costs of owning a business in prime attacks (7,7) - {CAPITAL} {CHARGES}
2 - Posh politician, young person, united many (7) - {U}{MP}{TEEN}
3 - Opening statement on chronic drinker is delicious (7) - {S}{C}{RUMMY}
4 - Yet a single can rest there! (6,3) - DOUBLE BED [CD]
5 - Drum beaten with a gesture in dance in India (5) - {MUDR*}{A}
6 - Publicity about youth on rich display is at great cost (7) - {P{Y}R}{RHIC*}
7 - Journalist provided with reserve building (7) - {ED}{IF}{ICE}
8 - Hands that have come to stay (9,5) - PERMANENT STAFF [CD]
15 - Syce describing Mae's refurbished recreation centre (5,4) - {G{AMES*} ROOM}
17 - Propane distribution existing in theory only (2,5) - ON PAPER*
18 - Drive in French army (7) - {EN}{FORCE}
19 - Clues thrown about divine embraces (7) - {CU{DD}LES*}
20 - Short piece about Atma's cultivation of a variety of rice (7) - {B{ASMAT*}It}
22 - Transmits to saint's terminals (5) - {S}{ENDS}
1 - Moved with speed — spoke, dismissing girl and son (7) -
5 - Clean, darling youngster (6) - {MOP}{PET}
9 - Musician begins playing in support (5) - {PI{P}ER}
10 - And the German queen, rather rife, is exposed to criticism (5,4) - {UND}{ER}{ {FIRE*}
12 - His mate propagated disbelief in the existence of god (7) - ATHEISM*
14 - Gen and scribe wander in the theatre (3,6) - BIG SCREEN*
16 - Clean mad about a great engineering work in the Black Canyon of the Colorado River (6,3) - {HOOVER} {DAM*}
21 - Exploits, almost ready, bad and singular (3-4) - {RIP
23 - Notice is put in streets: bad men are here! (7) - {S{AD}{IS}TS}
24 - Parsee not translating language (9) - ESPERANTO*
25 - Am completely backing the beast (5) - {LLA}{MA}<-
27 - Dog uncle on return and fight! (7) - {MAS<-}{TIFF}
1 - The costs of owning a business in prime attacks (7,7) - {CAPITAL} {CHARGES}
2 - Posh politician, young person, united many (7) - {U}{MP}{TEEN}
3 - Opening statement on chronic drinker is delicious (7) - {S}{C}{RUMMY}
4 - Yet a single can rest there! (6,3) - DOUBLE BED [CD]
5 - Drum beaten with a gesture in dance in India (5) - {MUDR*}{A}
6 - Publicity about youth on rich display is at great cost (7) - {P{Y}R}{RHIC*}
7 - Journalist provided with reserve building (7) - {ED}{IF}{ICE}
8 - Hands that have come to stay (9,5) - PERMANENT STAFF [CD]
15 - Syce describing Mae's refurbished recreation centre (5,4) - {G{AMES*} ROOM}
17 - Propane distribution existing in theory only (2,5) - ON PAPER*
18 - Drive in French army (7) - {EN}{FORCE}
19 - Clues thrown about divine embraces (7) - {CU{DD}LES*}
20 - Short piece about Atma's cultivation of a variety of rice (7) - {B{ASMAT*}I
22 - Transmits to saint's terminals (5) - {S}{ENDS}
10A is my COD.
ReplyDeleteDidn't quite get why is THERMAL warm entrance and not just warm ... in which case the entrance might be seen as redundant.
My COD 17D
ReplyDeleteBhavan
ReplyDeleteJust "warm" is the def.
[E]ntrance is part of the c/c ind.
MY COD - 7D edifice.
ReplyDelete@Bhavan - true that the clue was solvable without entrance ... but the wordplay should prob'ly be read as
"entrance of R in hamlet*" ..
CV,
ReplyDelete'Warm head of roisterers in production of Hamlet' would produce the same answer.
Maybe, but look at the overall surface reading.
ReplyDelete"Warm head of roistereres" does not make sentence.
OTOH, the entrance of a h of rs. somewhere can be 'warm'.
It is quite another thing that ultimately the surface reading of the clue is not that great.
Hi everyone
ReplyDelete16A - Curiously enough, HOOVER, brand-name of a vacuum cleaner, has been accepted to mean 'clean' or 'vacuum-clean' in verb form. e.g. 'I got the office hoovered.'
Similarly, XEROX, is widely used for a photocopy, esp., in India. Wonder if the brand-owners are amused.
Besides, one can get BANGALORED.
Any other examples? I am sure our knowledgeable friends here can come out with many.
Recently one newspaper said Bangalore was getting Puned.
ReplyDeleteWelcome back, Richard.
ReplyDeleteBefore Bangalore became a verb, Shanghai was there earlier.
No doubt we are all getting KISHORED with witty comments.
ReplyDeleteMy COD 2D. If only for the implied reference to Nancy Mitford and her "U non-U" essay. Unfortunately for my children, I think I have based my parenting skills on her Uncle Matthew creation.
ReplyDeleteRichard @ 950, as you would notice, nary a peep out of me before you posted !
ReplyDeleteNew Delhi attacks. My COD is 1 Dn.
ReplyDelete21 - Exploits, almost ready, bad and singular (3-4) - {RIPe}-{OFF}{S}
ReplyDeleteTo exploit someone is to rip-off someone, but is the plural valid, i.e, is using the word rip-offs the same as using the word exploits? Someone exploits someone would be someone rips-off someone.. Even using rip-offs in the sense that someone has been subject to several rip-offs, the use of the word exploits replacing rip-offs does not seem right, or is it?
So 2D CODs :)
ReplyDeleteCol,
Missed * in 26 A.
21 - Exploits, almost ready, bad and singular (3-4)
ReplyDeleteVeer
Exploits, both in the surface reading and as def for word reqd, is noun, pl.
I am not sure if there is any problem there.
CVasi Sir: Thanks for responding. Since the intent in def. and surface is noun (pl.), exploit as a noun is defined in Chambers online dictionary as
ReplyDeleteexploit noun (usually exploits) an act or feat, especially a bold or daring one.
The OED online concurs with this def. as well.
As a verb however, Chambers online dictionary gives this:
verb (exploited, exploiting) 1 to take unfair advantage of something or someone so as to achieve one's own aims. 2 to make good use of something.
Rip-off is defined solely as a noun in Chambers online dictionary as:
rip-off noun 1 an act or instance of stealing from someone, or cheating or defrauding them, etc. 2 an item which is outrageously overpriced.
The nounal defs. for exploits and rip-offs seem to signify opposite intents, one implies bold and daring feats and the other implies acts of stealing.
My confusion basically came from this dichotomy. So it appeared that while one could use exploit as a verb to define rip-off as both have a similar connotation (whether a verb can define a noun is a different matter, though in this case, it might be admissible I would hazard), using the noun form of exploit to define rip-off seems to be not right..
Would love to hear more on this. Thanks
Or maybe, much ado over not much...
ReplyDeleteMostly, I raised the query because I could not think of a sentence that could just replace exploits with rip-offs and it mean the same. A soldier's daring exploits cannot become A soldier's daring rip-offs. Or even, A thief's daring exploits cannot become A thief's daring rip-offs, though in this example the line is a bit fuzzier for me (exploits describing the said thief's bravery while rip-offs signify more the brazenness of thievery).
Believe it or not:
ReplyDeleteToday's Bang ed ET 4551 has this in 1d:
How pleasant is it to have money ! (7)
giving us the exact letters in the exact place as today's THC.
Veer,
ReplyDeleteWould you accept a usage like this,
"The Nigerian con-artist involved in several rip-offs was arrested in London"?
Haven't got a dictionary to hand, but in general usage exploit as a verb has a different meaning to exploit as a noun. As a verb rip off is fine, but as a noun it generally means exciting deeds. So if answer was to match the verb it should be rips off not rip offs. The noun to match the verb "rip off" is exploitation.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Veer and Dave that 'exploitations' rather than 'exploits' approximates to 'rip-offs'.
ReplyDeleteThat is, as noun.
ReplyDeleteCol.,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for the google ref. to Hoover dam.Enjoyed reading it!
Unusual for Col. to choose an anagram as COD.I think it is for the nice way the clue has been formed and its surface reading.
My crib is only when there are too many CD/DD/E type clues in the grid
ReplyDeleteKishore,
ReplyDeleteMy computer was down for 2 days.Just read Sunday's comments,particularly the following:
Newts ? Spink-bottle !
Good old memories of PGW.Even a hint likes gets me into splits!!
I second Colonel's 16:54.
ReplyDeleteWhen you are in a corner you might always see if there's a way out...
ReplyDelete21 Exploits, almost ready, bad and singular (3-4) RIP-OFFS
After the wordplay, for def. re-read the whole clue! Won't they be rip-offs?
CV/CGB,
ReplyDeleteA query on memorandums: At school, we were told that the plural of agendum is agenda, that of addendum addenda, memorandum memoranda, and curriculum curricula. While for the last two, adding 's' has also now been accepted for making the plural word, for the first two, such is not the case. Any reason for this exception?
Here is an interesting memorandum from Bernard Woolley, the memo-pushing private secretary of James Hacker (in YES MINISTER) which reflects his pedantic sense of humour and nit-picky abilities as also his penchant for details:
“With reference to your memorandum in reply to my memorandum on the subject of classical tags. Your description of the tag Beware of Greeks Bearing Gifts as a Greek tag is, of course erroneous.
Just as the Trojan Horse was Greek, the tag with which you described as Greek was, in fact Latin. In fact, this is obvious if you consider that the Greeks would hardly suggest bewaring of themselves- if one can use such a participle: bewaring , that is- and the tag can clearly be seen to be Latin rather than Greek not because ‘timeo’ ends in ‘o’(because the Greek first person also ends in ‘o’)- actually, if I may digress, there is a Greek word ‘timao’ meaning ‘I honour’- but because the ‘os’ ending is a nominative singular termination of the second declension in Greek and an accusative plural in Latin. Incidentally, as a fine point of interest, ‘Danaos’ is not only the Greek for Greek but also the Latin for Greek”.
Now, it is time for some pragmatic observations:
Dean Acheson: "A memorandum is not written to inform the reader but to protect the writer".
Charles Peters: "Bureaucrats write memoranda both because they appear to be busy when they are writing and because the memos, once written, immediately become proof that they were busy."
CVasi Sir: When one is in a corner, anything's possible. I guess, using "bad" in the clue could be redeeming. But, jokes apart, the only reason in my mind that makes this discussion possible is one can look at a Gridman puzzle closely with a view to understanding the nuances of cluemanship. It would not be possible with some of our other setters. Thanks for allowing that luxury!
ReplyDeleteVenkatesh: Thanks for your query.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I can't give an answer.
My copy of Fowler's MEU (printed 1930) has three sections for words ending in -um.
Plurals in -ums only
Plurals in -a only
Words with either plural
It seems that some words in -um are yet to be anglicised in plural form.
I will leave it at that!