Thursday 17 October 2013

No 10906, Thu 17 Oct 2013, Gridman


ACROSS
1   Most clever statue disposition on thoroughfare (8) ASTUTEST {STATUE*}{ST}
5   Five take a ride — different, not all the same (6) VARIED {V}{A}{RIDE*}
9   Smooth operator, Congress leader is one causing damage (7) CHARMER {C}{HARMER}
10 Monkey found in section of the low wall (7) PARAPET {PAR{APE}T}
11 Zurich folk get going for a delicacy (5,4) SWISS ROLL {SWISS} {ROLL}
12 Head right to mountain country (5) RURAL {R}{URAL}
13 Nervous journalist meets heartless guy (4) EDGY {ED}{GuY}
14 One sports this habit swimmingly (9) BEACHWEAR [CD]
17 Analysis that might say ‘be positive’? (5,4) BLOOD TEST {Result B+}
19 One artist starts querying about country (4) IRAQ {1}{RA}{Q}
23 Assesses speeds (5) RATES [DD]
24 Dead with detested thing — not a skin eruption (9) EXANTHEMA {EX}{ANaTHEMA}
25 Biased — is liar apt to be so? (7) PARTIAL*
26 He accuses that I am divine without right (7) IMPEACH {I'M}{PrEACH} Is the definition correct?
27 Avalanche faced by man back for winter Olympics event (6) DELUGE {DE<=}{LUGE}
28 Owing money, journalist is beholden (8) INDEBTED {IN DEBT}{ED}

DOWN
1   Accountant Chief of Staff Edward confronted boldly (8) ACCOSTED {AC}{COS}{TED}
2   Team leader facilitating mild mockery (7) TEASING {T}{EASING}
3   A master in examination that’s least threatening (6) TAMEST {T{A}{M}EST}
4   Former British Premier revises terrible prose (3,6,4) SIR ROBERT PEEL
6   They man the flying machines (8) AIRCREWS [E]
7   Powers not all majestic (7) IMPERIA IMPERIAl
8   Pipe residue in vial brother disowned, daughter accepted (6) DOTTLE (-b+d)DOTTLE Reminded me of my pipe smoking days.
10 Where suspects are detained for questioning (6,7) POLICE STATION [CD]
15 Big talk about snake’s prick (8) BOASTING {BOA}{STING} Really!
16 Fruit the little boy squeezed (8) SQUASHED {SQUASH}{ED}
18 Word for word or ‘wrod’ for ‘word’ (7) LITERAL [CD]
20 Construct again recent presentation involving ace (2-5) RE-ENACT {RE-EN{A}CT*}
21 Complained about exercise in urban pattern (6) GRIPED {GRI{PE}D}
22 Put together necessary food? (6) STAPLE [DD]

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  1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 08:32

    15 Big talk about snake’s prick (8) BOASTING {BOA}{STING} Really!

    I am sure Gridman, the gentleman that he is, is talking of a snake's bite ...

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    1. SandhyaP17 October 2013 at 08:36

      You really think so? :P

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    2. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 08:48

      Well, when I wrote that clue I DID think that 'snake' on thef ace of it means a reptile BUT it could also mean "an ungrateful or treacherous man".

      I rest my case there.

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    3. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 08:57

      The rest, as they say, is his story

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    4. Richard17 October 2013 at 09:45

      'Sting' operation!

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    5. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 09:50

      Desert rose?

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  2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 08:34

    4 Former British Premier revises terrible prose (3,6,4) SIR ROBERT PEEL

    Reminded me of 'Bobby'

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    1. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 09:33

      Reminds me once again about Talyarkhan

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    2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 09:48

      Take it from me : I was not referring to AFS , but to the peelers

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  3. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 08:35

    The def in 26 a is incorrect. I missed it in repeated checkings.

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  4. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 08:42

    CV, Today's TS has this combo:

    Down clues
    2 See 20
    20/2 Type of meal (8)

    2d and 20d are two 4 letter slots, whereas enu is given as 8. Is this kosher?

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    1. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 08:54

      I am yet to see that. And here you don't give thea nswer.

      If my understanding is correct -

      Occasionally a word can be broken in its obvious break and spread over two slots. E.g., BREAKFAST clue can have its lights in two places as BREAK and FAST. The vlue number will be 20 and 2 where clue is written with the enu (9). 2 will have the ind See 20

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  5. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 09:22

    I think the answer must be luncheon. I am also not too happy about splitting it into 4/4, though the enumeration as 8 is correct.

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  6. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 09:25

    18D- I am not able to understand the 'wrod' for 'word' part. It made me think of anagram. Obviously Gridman meant it to mislead and I was! So much that I changed 'rates' (which I had filled in correctly for 23A) and got into a mess in that corner.

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  7. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 09:29

    Re. the cartoon- Kishore probably needs binoculars!
    On a serious note- the feet of the man (or a woman?)- can it be turned 90 degrees?

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 09:38

      Sure, you can ... You may have to dilocate te ankle first !

      More seriously, can anyone touch their nose with ther tongue without using any device to change the position of the nose or for extension of the tongue?

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    2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 09:38

      I can!

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    3. Richard17 October 2013 at 09:49

      What do you call such people who can do that? Linguanasacrobats?

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    4. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 10:04

      Quite a tongue-twister!

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    5. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 10:10

      Kishore, I meant in the cartoon picture! It looks kind of twisted and not straight.

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    6. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 10:26

      Yeah, Paddy. Now that you have elaborated, I agree that you are right.

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    7. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 15:16

      ...and my doubt. Not his feet. His hands. Was he answering the call of nature ?!

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    8. Deepak Gopinath17 October 2013 at 15:20

      Indian national pastime on the beach?

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    9. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 21:24

      And they blame global warming for increase in the sea level

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  8. RameshJ17 October 2013 at 09:40

    Cut paste from yesterday as i t was posted very late in the day .

    Was wonderful to meet Shrikanth today. Missed meeting Raghu. Strange that the first person that I met on this forum in person, turned out to be a person outside Hyderabad.
    May be a good time to organize a meeting for all the folks in Hyd. How about Saturday the 19th Oct ? Raghu/Sandhya/MB/ Any one else who is in Hyd would it work for you ? Else please propose another date.

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  9. Richard17 October 2013 at 09:52

    A few superlatives today.

    17A - Felt proud to read this. It was twenty years ago that I floated a group of like-blooded individuals - "Be Positive Always" - a fraternity of B+.

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  10. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 09:55

    10Dn should be S. It is a straight forward clue, nothing cryptic about it.

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  11. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 09:59

    K must be looking hard!
    Reminded me of the word palindrome:
    Girl bathing on Bikini eyeing boy found boy eyeing bikini on bathing girl

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  12. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 10:10

    The first reference is to Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands, now named as a World Heritage Site by UNESCO because of the nuclear tests that the USA conducted there between 1946 and 1958.

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  13. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 10:24

    I am confused by the mathematics of it.

    600 litres reportedly costing Rs.40000 makes it Rs.66.67/ltr. which may be cost of petrol in Delhi. Does not the government get customs, excise and Vat out of the petrol price, which is lost when a government department saves fuel ...

    600 litres of petrol saved for one metro journey from Race Course to Central Secretariat which costs Rs.8 on the metro for a distance of just over 2 kms. Even taking a poor mileage of 2 kms per litre, this much fuel would require 600 cars to consume it ... Was the entourage so big?


    I am losing faith in mathematics ...

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 10:25

      When we have such excellent entertainment in the papers, who needs cartoons?

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    2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 10:49

      A further logical question, not mathematical one, is was the return journey by metro too? Or were the cars available at CS for the return journey having gone there without their passengers earlier. In that case, was there any saving at all.

      Sorry for the digression, but this question has been plaguing me for nearly a week and I thought I would present it to this think tank.

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  14. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 11:06

    I think these 'figures' are meant for 'aam aadmi' and not for logical thinking people like Lishore. If at all, please loose faith in our netas and not in Mathematics which is more constant and correct!

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  15. Padmanabhan17 October 2013 at 11:08

    Looking back you yourself have stated that excellent entertainment which of course means lack of logic. In any case it is not worth loosing a week of sleep.

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 11:13

      Oh, I did not lose sleep over it. I only wondered much and sorrowed more, as Thackeray put it.

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  16. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 11:15

    The cars (carrying files) must have followed the metro travellers! It happens with RD minister also. He cycles to work from his Lodhi Estate residence and his car follows.

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 11:48

      Then was anything saved at all. The cars must also have visited the Metro station to pick up and drop and perhaps consumed more than usual.

      What if the RD ministry (like the railway ministry at one time) functioned from Kolkatta?

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  17. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 11:24

    Kishore

    Note that the answer to that clue is TAKEAWAY. Note also that as I said the split is TAKE AWAY.

    This kind of putting a long word in two slots is done.

    But the split must be at the right place - that is logially as I said in a Comment above.

    You can't have it as TAK in a three-letter slot and EAWAY in a five-letter slot elsewhere.

    Uusually the split parts of a light are of equal length.

    I have done it rarely in THC. Sankalak has done it sometimes especially in a grid where there are two three-letter slots next to each other in the Down set.

    Hope this helps.

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 11:47

      Thanks, CV, for the clarification.

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  18. Shrikanth17 October 2013 at 11:39

    Thanks Raghu & Ramesh for taking time to meet me yesterday. It was a delight. So nice of you to accommodated it in such short notice. MB is not to be seen in the blog today?

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    1. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 12:28

      Sorry Shrikanth. Yesterday I had been to my brother's home (after noon) and returned home just now. Gone through yesterdays comments and came to know you were here in Hyderabad at Khairthabad which is not far from where I stay. Are you still in Hyderabad ? If so, I'll definitely meet you any time you say.

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    2. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 12:39

      My cell no. 9573744790

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  19. Ajay17 October 2013 at 11:43

    Hi guys, are there any delhiwallas in this forum. Maybe, we in the north should also meet up sometime. But are there any in this forum. Please raise your hands or publish a response.
    Thanks

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    1. Shuchi17 October 2013 at 16:51

      Hi Ajay, I am an occasional Dilliwali. I will probably be in Delhi in the first week of November. Will be great to have a solvers' get-together there.

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    2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 16:57

      Dilliwali in Dilli for Diwali!

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    3. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 18:45

      ...dilwali hai na !

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    4. Richard17 October 2013 at 18:48

      Aap log taarif karne mein hamesha dildaar hain. Kar bhala to ho bhala...

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    5. Shuchi17 October 2013 at 20:09

      Yes for Diwali - though the air-ticket prices this season have taken out my Diwala.

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    6. Richard17 October 2013 at 21:34

      Ab Dilli door nahin...

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  20. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 13:05

    Hi Ramesh,
    Re meeting you suggested I've no problems at all. Any other time also is ok with me. Won't be available from 6th to 10th of Nov. Col. Saheb, please excuse me for taking undue advantage of this blog for such messages.

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    1. RameshJ17 October 2013 at 18:09

      So we have quorum. Lets meet up this Saturday. Let me see if Raghunath can make it as well. Lets finalize place/time on phone. Will call you tomorrow

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    2. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 19:36

      Which rum?

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    3. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 19:57

      ...besharum Hindi mein !

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  21. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 16:35

    आज कुछ होने वाला हैं, ....

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    1. Mukundala Balasubramanyam17 October 2013 at 18:41

      ...kisliye ?

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    2. Richard17 October 2013 at 18:45

      Aaj toh Kishore-bhai ne kuchh hungama kar diya hai. Aap log jaldi sun paayenge. Agar Col sa'ab ki ijaazat hai toh main bataa saktaa hoon..

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    3. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 18:49

      I will re-post, if necessary, after Richard-biradar elaborates ...

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    4. Richard17 October 2013 at 18:58

      OK - the suspense could be too killing -

      HERE WE GO...

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    5. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 19:27

      तुम अगर साथ देने का वादा करो,
      मैं यूँ ही मस्त नगमे लुटाता रहूँ

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    6. Richard17 October 2013 at 21:31

      You are making me feel so nostalgic about singer Mahendra Kapoor and music director Ravi.

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  22. Unknown17 October 2013 at 17:06

    Here's one more Dillivala!
    Would be great to have a get together here, too - look forward to it.

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    1. Rengaswamy17 October 2013 at 18:19

      Dillivala? or Dillivali? I was Dilliwala for 30 years till 2010 (at Janakpuri/ Vasant Kunj) and then I moved over to Chennai mainly to get away from the severe cold and also to avoid climbing 3 floors to my home at Vasant Kunj in our old age. The ideal time for South Indians to participate in the meet at Delhi would be October/November or March.

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  23. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 18:48

    I happened to come across the following while surfing idly. I had almost forgotten about it:

    http://www.thehindubusinessline.in/bline/mentor/2005/12/12/stories/2005121200371000.htm

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    1. Rengaswamy17 October 2013 at 19:04

      Nice story for the beginners to take interest and solve the CW.

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  24. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 19:01

    Warning: there might be some problem with the crossword that is printed there. Will look at it and let you know.

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    1. Chaturvasi17 October 2013 at 19:12

      In the Down set of clues please read 4 and 15 instead of 4 and 14

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  25. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 19:53

    Very nice article. I have forwarded to some friends and youngsters.

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  26. Nadathur Rajan17 October 2013 at 20:06

    Kishore,
    When you wrote in Hindi, guessed you had set a Hindi CW. Went to CrosswordUnclued, and there it was (link on the left column. You have purposefully given simple clues (20D and 22D are instances) to entice people into trying it. A pioneering effort. Wonderful!

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    1. Anonymous17 October 2013 at 20:10

      Thanks, now we shouldn't scare away the customers, should we?

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  27. Mukundala Balasubramanyam18 October 2013 at 14:08

    This comment has been removed by the author.

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