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ACROSS
1 Initially run into obstinate feeder (6) TROUGH {T{Run}OUGH}
4 In ship, take rum, fish (6) SKATES {S{TAKE*}S}
10 Calm siesta during downpour for journalist (10) RESTRAINED {REST}{RAIN}{ED}
11 Stick to firm at this place (6) COHERE {CO}{HERE}
12 Car chain can be chaotic (8) ANARCHIC*
13 Clumsily sets pedal on platforms (9) PEDESTALS*
15 Cleanse tipsy siren (5) RINSE*
16 Strikes with sashes (5) BELTS [DD]
18 Lightening using a gas contraption (9) ASSUAGING*
22 Familiarise confused mascot with Copper implant (8) ACCUSTOM {AC{CU}STOM*}
23 Euphoric editor takes in the departed (6) ELATED {E{LATE}D}
25 Hear matron break down about long distance runner (10) MARATHONER*
26 Starts to go around lake after carnival (4) GALA Acrostic
27 Believer begins the robbery (6) THEIST {The}{HEIST}
28 Appeals with ornaments (6) CHARMS [DD]
DOWN
1 Small amount of support for frog’s offspring (7) TADPOLE {TAD}{POLE}
3 Supply insides of man’s piece of clothing (7) GARMENT {G{ARM}ENT}
5 Asian is alright, returns near accident (6) KOREAN {OK<=}{NEAR*}
6 Shivering, nearly drop protected magician (9) TWITCHING {T{WITCH}INGe}
7 Initially, some pieces create breed (7) SPECIES {Some}{PIECES*}
8 Melts absinthe cocktail at store (13) ESTABLISHMENT*
14 Company of odd dean out in a riot? Madness! (9) ENTOURAGE {dEaN}{OUT*}{RAGE}
17 Attract teens regularly with slogan (7) ENCHANT {tEeNs}{CHANT}
19 Dig up her aunt’s wreck (7) UNEARTH*
20 Irritates unnecessarily, not sly (7) NEEDLES NEEDLESsly
21 Desires setbacks, not at first (6) ITCHES hITCHES
24 Ire at collapse of range (5) ANGER*
Reference List
Ship = SS, Journalist = ED
4a. SKATES=fish ss=ship rum=anagrid, (S{TAKE}*S)
ReplyDelete9a. IDEA=concept utopian=IDEAL-L (incomplete = deletion ind)
23a. ELATED=euphoric ED=editor LATE=departed E+LATE+D
27a.THEIST=believer, T=the HEIST=robbery T+HEIST
17d.ENCHANT=attract, tEeN=regularly = EN, CHANT=slogan EN+CHANT
16a. BELTS = Strikes
ReplyDeleteFrom sash = belt
18a ASSUAGING = Lightening
Anagram of using a gas
Contraption - anind
27a. THEIST = Believer
Begins The = T + heist =
robbery
3d. GARMENT = Piece of clothing
Supply =. Arm, inside man =
Gent
14d. ENTOURAGE = Company
Odd Dean out = En
In a riot, Out = tou
Madness = rage
En+tou+rage
For 27a already annotated
ReplyDelete21d. ITCHES = Desires
Setbacks = hitches (-) h (not at
first deletion ind) = itches
8Ac ESTABLISHMENT. Defn- store.
ReplyDelete{MELTS ABSINTHE}*
5dn KOREAN. defn- Asian. {OK<=}{NEAR}*
20dn NEEDLES. defn- irritates. {NEEDLESS LY (-SLY)}
28ac CHARMS . [DD]
18ac ASSUAGING. defn- Lightening. {USING A GAS}*
Establishment is 8 dn.
ReplyDeleteYes please. My mistake. Thanks
Delete19D. UNEARTH - her + aunt anagram
ReplyDelete7D. SPECIES - initially some = S + PIECES
S+PIECES is SPIECES?
DeleteSPECIES, not SPIECES
DeleteHow do you get PECIES from PIECES is what I meant as no indication is given
Delete10a. RESTRAINED - REST(siesta) + RAIN (downpour) + ED (journalist)
ReplyDeleteIs Anon a synonym of Incognito?!!
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteI had a driving school ranking for setters a whille back.
DeleteIncognito:instructor led training
Anon:the first self drive with instructor beside
Lightning: self drive in the test area
Gridman:exam in the driving school
Dr.X first exam after training
Buzzer/nyerta: tentative early morning drives
Krisscross/karoke/hyparia: regular day driving
Arden: rush hour driving
Xchequer: 8 lane junction driving
Hyderabadi driving: since absent.
You rate Hyderabadi driving more difficult than 8 lane junction driving?
Deleteकौन कहा से आयेगा पता ही नही चलता।
DeleteAt junction you are atleast aware for the possibility.
With varied schools of thought, are you sure one will get licence at last? Haha
DeleteYou did not rate wordplougher?
DeleteAs I said it was sometime back I did this prompted by a discussion here.
DeleteI think I have been amply berated. So, don't mind not being rated. :)
DeleteThat was funny. That's the spirit too. 👍
Delete12A anarchic anagram of car chain
ReplyDelete22a accustom from mascot and cu for copper
ReplyDeleteComponents OK. Annotation!
Delete22A annotation not given
Delete25a marathoner anagram of hear matron
ReplyDelete27a theist believer from T and heist
ReplyDelete11a cohere company co and here at this place
ReplyDelete13A PEDESTALS = platforms (sets pedal)*
ReplyDelete1D TADPOLE = frogs offspring, ( small amount = )tad, ( support=) pole
ReplyDelete24D ANGER (range)* = ire
ReplyDelete2D ORATE = talk (love=)o, (for speed=)rate
ReplyDelete2d - Talk of love for speed (5)
ReplyDeleteLove = O
Speed = Rate
Talk = ORATE
15 Cleanse tipsy siren (5)
ReplyDeleteTipsy - anagrind
Rearrange SIREN to RINSE
26 Starts to Go Around Lake After carnival (4)
ReplyDeleteGALA
Letters capitalized in the clue
6 Shivering, nearly drop protected magician (9)
ReplyDeleteMagician WITCH
Answer TWITCHING
1 Initially run into obstinate feeder (6)
Obsitinate - ROUGH
Answer - TROUGH which means feeder
Incomplete anno
Delete1A annotations is incorrect
Delete6D annotation is incomplete
1A. {T{R}OUGH}
ReplyDelete6D. {T{WITCH}ING -e}
1A - Obstinate = Tough
ReplyDeleteInitially Run means take R as first letter
INTO means R is inside Tough
Answer is TROUGH
Apologies for wrong Anno on 1A
6D - Shivering in present continuous - Hence ING at the end
ReplyDeleteNot sure where T came in TWITCHING
Incorrect
Delete@ Mr Kannan
Delete6D Pl see Mr Mohun's anno @ 9.59
Very easy to solve but cryptic grammar is wrong in several clues
ReplyDeleteList them out
Delete10a I was totally lost with "during" and "for"
DeleteWas sleeping.
Delete10 Calm siesta during downpour for journalist (10) RESTRAINED {REST}{RAIN}{ED}
During and for are redundant and affect wordplay
11 Stick to firm at this place (6) COHERE {CO}{HERE}
To is redundant as CO is not a verb. Definition to wordplay
13 Clumsily sets pedal on platforms (9) PEDESTALS*
Wordplay on definition
25 Hear matron break down about long distance runner (10) MARATHONER*
About is redundant if break down is anagrind
27 Believer begins the robbery (6) THEIST {The}{HEIST}
How is begins the = T? Begin is not a noun. Should have been “beginning of the” for the cryptic grammar
1 Small amount of support for frog’s offspring (7) TADPOLE {TAD}{POLE}
Of is redundant between the wordplay elements
2 Talk of love for speed (5) ORATE {0}{RATE}
For is redundant. A for B is not AB
8 Melts absinthe cocktail at store (13) ESTABLISHMENT*
Wordplay at definition
24 Ire at collapse of range (5) ANGER*
Definition at wordplay
Ajeesh - sorry for asking this. But what is definition at wordplay & wordplay at definition?
DeleteKindly explain or tell me where to read it up.
Thanx
Sorry. Wordplay on definition.
DeleteI understood what u mean - but why is it cryptically wrong?
DeleteConnector (used between wordplay and definition) should convey that wordplay leads to definition or definition derived from wordplay. The below formats don’t convey that
Wordplay at definition, definition at wordplay, wordplay on definition, definition on wordplay
The below formats are fine (just giving 2 examples)
Wordplay for definition
Definition from wordplay
Ideally one should avoid connectors as much as possible
I think i understood. Should look at more examples.
DeleteThanx.
Ajeesh’s points are on point. We should avoid these as setters.
DeleteAlso there are some nounal anagrinds (18A, 5D, 8D, 19D), and redundant connectors in DD clues (28A, 16A, 28A). Experienced setters have advised me to avoid connectors in double-definition clues in general.
In 3 Down, my opinion is that ‘insides of’ works as a central-letters-picking ind, but looks awkward as an insertion indicator.
In 6D, would have personally revised ‘protected’ to ‘protecting’.
But just to be fair and add my two cents, we shouldn't blame Anon for any of these. Setters are as much beset by life’s troubles as solvers are. Plus, they are working hard to be creative for the enjoyment of solvers. Besides, as Colonel’s blog has taught me so far, as long as solvers are ultimately able to successfully suss out every clue on their own steam, imperfect cryptic grammar is not the worst thing in life?
Is there any problem with nounal anagrinds?
DeleteYes. Totally ie unless one can find a supposedly noun but has equivalent in any semantic forms!
DeleteIn strict sense
" noun is not a semantic category, so it cannot be characterized in terms of its meaning."
But nounal "actions and states of existence can also be expressed by verbs, qualities by adjectives, and places by adverbs."
Last to go was 21D and now centum! Nice clues with lots of his favourite anagrams, enjoyable!
ReplyDelete22A: Familiarise (def) = accustom -> CU in (MASCOT)*
ReplyDeleteAnagrind: confused; insertion indicator: implant
5d - (OK<--)+(NEAR*) = KOREAN
ReplyDeletealright - OK & returns - KO ; NEAR*
Forgotten to press publish button. Though I solved could not post in-time. Accidenty my choice and AJ mam's choice matches often. Thanks to Anon and col.sir for friday's special.