Friday, 24 January 2020

No 12840, Friday 24 Jan 2020, Sunnet

RULES FOR POSTING COMMENTS ON FRIDAYS ONLY

All those who are not regular commenters but who are rookie commenters or silent followers of the blog are requested to post answers with annotations in the comments section. In your own interest please avoid looking up the answers from the interactive version. Don't hesitate to post your annotations, in case you make a mistake in the annotation someone will correct it with the right annotation.

PLEASE NOTE, SOLUTIONS WITHOUT ATTEMPTING THE ANNOTATIONS WILL BE DELETED

Each commenter is requested to post only 5 answers thereby giving others also a chance to participate. Please provide all your answers in one comment.

Regular solvers/Veterans can post 1 answer each, but after 11 AM only

The regular blog will replace the clues at 4 PM.

Thanks for the response, here's the regular blog.

Sunnet's talking in radio code today.

ACROSS
1   Rob Lincoln, an old African President (6) MUGABE {MUG}{ABE}
4   Mostly not against burning coal this month (8) NOVEMBER {NOt}{V}{EMBER}
10 Small, perfect rings in iodine (9) MINIATURE {M{IN}{I}ATURE}
11 Dance beat with energy (5) TANGO {TAN}{GO}
12 City’s duck lover (5) ROMEO {ROME}{O}
13 Step in sepulchre to sit (9)  INTERPOSE {INTER}{POSE}
14 Beg short candidate to have a meal (7) ENTREAT {ENTRy}{EAT}
16 Beam of sun plotted in axes (1-3) X-RAY {RA} in {X}{Y}
19 Language of beautiful Uzbekistan is written from right to left (4) ZULU [T<=]
21 Because note is true (7) SINCERE {SINCE}{RE}
24 A big discount to help if car is wrecked (4-5) HALF-PRICE*
25 A small change to land at the mouth of the river (5) DELTA [DD]
26 Awkwardly bears sword (5) SABRE*
27 Guerrilla changed sides freely but remained the same (9) IRREGULAR GUERRIL(-l+r)RA* &lit
28 Noel’s duel with Yeti was choreographed (8) YULETIDE {DUEL+YETI}*
29 Claimed road had deteriorated at first (6) STATED {ST}{ATE}{De...d}

DOWN
1   Things remembered by me about isomer (8) MEMORIES {ME}{ISOMER*}
2   Henry and Tim cozy up to arms dealer (8) GUNSMITH {H}{TIM}{SNUG}<=
3   A cheer for brother holding bible (5) BRAVO {BR{AV}O} A is superfluous
5   Clear cut strain (7) OVERTAX {OVERT}{AX}
6   Please get in line without resistance (9) ENTERTAIN {ENTER}{TrAIN}
7   Determined that inner room’s not raised (4,2) BENT ON {BEN}{NOT<=}
8   Settled and cheered (6) ROOTED [DD]
9   Project to capture story of tragic heroine (6) JULIET {JU{LIE}T}
15 Outfit organized meet up in and around Quebec (9) EQUIPMENT {MEET+UP+IN}* over {Q}
17 Cut quarters became ineffective (4,4) FELL FLAT {FELL}{FLAT}
18 Went and fixed (8) REPAIRED [DD]
20 Integrated one providing that is dead (7) UNIFIED {UN}{IF}{IE}{D}
21 A riser’s rough range (6) SIERRA*
22 Blender to add a little bit of yeast to get fermented liquor (6) WHISKY {WHISK}{Ye..t}
23 Catholic girl’s shy (6) GLOBAL {G{LOB}AL}
25 Perhaps 2 love it (5) DIGIT {DIG}{IT}

Reference List
Against = V, Sun = RA, Axes X,Y, Note = RE, Henry = H, Bible = AV(Authorised version), Resistance = R, Quebec = Q, One = UN


88 comments:

  1. 1A MUGABE, rob=MUG, Lincoln= ABE, defn: old African president
    4A NOVEMBER, mostly not=NO, against=V (for versus), burning coal= EMBER, defn: month
    16A X-RAY, X(RA)Y, sun=RA (Egyptian Sun God), axes=X and Y, plotted in=containment indicator, defn: beam
    3D BRAVO, BR(AV)O, Authorised Version of the Bible= AV, brother=BRO, holding= containment indicator, defn: a cheer
    15D EQUIPMENT, E(QU)IPMENT, *MEET IN, Quebec=QU, around= indicator that anagram of MEET IN surrounds QU

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    1. Dr RKE, next week onwards you are being promoted to the regular solvers/veterans lot, as such on Friday's you will be permitted to post only one answer that too after 11 AM. Please note.

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    2. Thanks for the promotion, Col!

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  2. Sorry, 15D, Anno was wrong. It should be Q for Quebec and *MEET UP IN

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  3. 16a --axes = x,y ; beams-ray ...X Ray
    11a....dance with beat ---Tano (DD)

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    1. 11a pls look at answer. not dd

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    2. sorry col. sir... i was wrong...sun = RA X (RA) y
      11a....TANGO...g missed my laptop having trouble in few keys......

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    3. 11A anno is not yet clarified by you

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    4. feels quite tough today... 19A...i thought it was URDU...finally it becomes <--T (telescopic). puzzle looks too simple. Thanks to sunnet,Col & KKR for the new definitions & guidance .

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  4. 21ac sincere since(because) re(note)
    19ac zulu reverse T
    28ac yuletide (duel yeti)*
    24ac half price (help if car)*
    20dn unified un if ie d

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    1. Jayalakshmi, you too are being promoted to the regular solver/veterans group from next week as such next week onwards you may post only One answer of Fridays after 11 AM

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    2. So it is ZULU, I was thinking of "Urdu" as I got the last letter U from Unified, and wondering how to explain Urdu. : -(

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  5. 21d Sierra anagram a riser, mountain range

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  6. 26 a sabre-sword from bears

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  7. 6d please -Entertain from get in=enter line -train-r Tain
    Pl correct if anno is wrong

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  8. 9D project JUT story LIE tragic heroine JULIET

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  9. 12 a Romeo city Rome and duck O

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  10. 2d Gun Smith from arms- guns H and Tim anagram

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  11. 12A City ROME duck O lover ROMEO

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  12. 13a city's (_Rome) duck(0)meaning lover answer is romeo

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  13. 27a guerrilla changed sides is irregular anagram of guerrilla

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    1. pls relook. irregular is not anagram of guerrilla.

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    2. Anno is not correct, it's not a total anagram

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  14. 22d blender is whisk with abit of yeast is y that is whisky meaning liquor

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  15. INTERLUDE
    Please see comment of 'Cryptic Critic' under Anon's THC the other day. Also see Col's comments and mine thereunder.
    My response is reproduced here so it may be live. Please write only here.
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    First of all who is Cryptic Critic? We do have one by the handle Cryptic Academy and we learnt it is a real person whom we know very well and indeed some of us have met them (neutral pronoun). Please reveal yourself as who you are and also let us know place of residence. I use the handle Chatur Vasi but everyone knows who I am. So first come out into the open.
    Before any accusation of plagiarism is made against an author, 'critic' must be sure of their ground. There are some websites that lift/sweep/snatch/scrub/steal clues/answers from newspapers and create the ever-growing database To what purpose I don't know.Till now ALL of then ignored THC from India. Now one site - it must be US-based - does. And it is there that the day's THC clues/answers appear.
    A newspaper of repute won't publish plagiarised work. First of all, they would entrust work to a person in whom they have trust. Secondly, if it comes to their notice that even a little paragraph in an article is plagiarised from someone else's article, the culprit will be summarily dismissed from employment.
    'Critic' should say who he or she is, apologise and wipe the egg or mud or ink or whatever else on their face.

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    1. i was also surprised when i found soem thc clues in wordplay on 19th july 2019.
      i rechecked the site backwards and found it started on 8th july 2019.
      i remember random checking the time those days and found between 800-830 am.
      i just checked today and the whole solution is there already.
      it appears the site also pays for sending in solved clues.
      also Cryptic_Critic profile is creaeted in january 2020.
      As col said on that day, Cryptic-Critic should apologise.

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    2. I totally agree with Col.& CV. I have also visited wordplays.com who give out solutions (sometimes with annos if it is a simple T or anagram. Of late,they have started listing out clues from TH and sometimes on the same day as Col. has rightly pointed out. Just because these clues are found in a website,one cannot blindly accuse a setter of plagiarism. Nowadays net is really wide and many things can be found if one is bent upon it.

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    3. The clues and answers are being picked up from the blog. Till 8:30 these clues and answers did not figure in the site. However on checking after 8:30 all the clues and answers are there

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    4. It is not in good taste to allege plagiarism on any Indian setter. And that too in disguise!
      Out of curiosity, I visited the site Paddy mentioned. Interestingly, the answers to the THC of today, appear there. As per our blog, the following clues are yet to be solved:
      Across - 13, 25, 29
      Down - 17, 18, 23, 25
      But answers to these clues are also already available. So, they may be coming from other sources too.

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    5. If they are taking clues/answers by automation from the blog, both must be available on the main post. They cannot take clues from there and answers from Comments. I think they must be drawing these from the interactive version on the website as they can get the clues from the list alongside the puz grid and answers from the (reveal all) sol grid.

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    6. Yes, this could be the only possible source.

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    7. Yes, I think they get from the interactive version. They also publish the solutions of The Times 15x15 on the same day which can also be done through interactiv version( this I confirmed for Saturday and Sunday Times puzzles whose blog appears 1 week later)

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    8. I tried to see the comments of Cryptic Critic of that date. It seems Col deleted those comments. Were those comments setter-specific or on all the Indian setters?

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    9. Cryptic Critic seems to have stumbled on an Anon clue in Wordplays on that day and then checked all clues of the day one by one. He then had posted a long message giving links to all clues. His conclusion was Anon had lifted all the clues from that site. Whereas vive-versa was - and is - happening. CC's discovery was ok - their conclusion was wrong.
      They seem to have deleted their long post now without leaving any detritus..

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    10. Thanks Vasi Sir for the update. Now things get clearer to me.

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    11. I have delved deep into the site and felt very sad that they published solutions for prized crosswords too. This defeats the competitive spirit of the solvers.
      I consider this as worse as piracy.

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    12. At the same time, I searched on the basis of solution word. The result is very scary as many clues of various setters appeared and there are surely some look-alikes. The list gets longer if the searched word is small. I am not sure whether the setters are same or not. Assuming the website tracks only few papers, imagine the chances of repeats if the n-number of newspapers' database is here!

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    13. Agree KKR on the solutions of Prized crosswords. Defeats the very purpose of comptitive spirit and takes the fun out of solving.

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    14. Repeats are inevitable, if not today in few years time, as there are only so many words one can use, esp in noncompetitive like newspapers. And given the nature of time lag between setting and publishing. Given the number of crosswords each day around the world, it might be difficult even without the time lag. That's why I stick to just one or two mostly. So it doesn't kill the fun for me.

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  16. 10a. Small answer is miniature perfect is mature in I for iodine

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    1. Good one. I had problem in parsing it since I was distracted by the 'rings'- did not read it as 'rings in'.

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    2. Paddy, its "rings". In is fodder.

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    3. Oh! It is m(in I)ature. I get it now. Thank you Prasad.

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  17. 2 d gunsmith cosy up snug>guns+mit(anag of tim)+h-Harry.
    8 d rooted-cheered.settled.
    7 d bent on -determined Ben -inner room.+t on.from >not.
    5d overtax.clearcut-overt,tax-strain.

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  18. 14 entreat-Beg short candidate-entr(y)+eat meal.

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  19. 25D Love DIG IT perhaps 2 DIGIT

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  20. 14a ENTREAT..candidate..entrant short candidate ENTR..have a meal EAT..means to Beg

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  21. 2 d cosy up snug>guns+mit<tim+H.

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  22. 23d GLOBAL...catholic means universal girl..G(LOB)AL. Unable to decipher SHY...just filled the gaps 😀

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  23. 23 Ac. INTERPOSE; inter=sepulchre to bury; POSE=sit (as a model does)

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  24. 5 d overtax-clear-overt +ax-cut.overtax-strain.

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  25. Left for someone who is yet to comment/complete their quota of 5

    Across - 25, 29

    Down - 17, 18

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  26. 25 Ac DELTA, mouth of river; it is also used in calculus to denote small change; (as I am a professor of mathematics I wanted to avoid posting this clue as I have an advantage). But seeing this open for long decided to post it)

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    1. As a veteran solver you are permitted to post a comment after 11 AM only

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  27. 29 - St(road)ate(had)d(deteriorated first) - Stated
    17 - Fell(cut) Flat (quarters) - Fell Flat

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  28. 17 D- Cut (Fell) quarters (flat) -fell flat - became ineffective

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  29. Super pangram cum themmed puzzle based on
    NATO phonetic alphabet!
    Across : November, Tango, Romeo, X-Ray, Zulu, Delta.
    Dn : Bravo, Juliet, Sierra, Whisky.

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  30. Did not know it.What is NATO phonetic alphabet?

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    1. Thank you KKR. I believe it is used in airlines,police,military etc.

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  31. Got it and now I understand why MB was able to get it!!

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    1. Nato Alphabets are frequently used in Crosswords.
      Find the link to Crossword Unclued blog on it:
      https://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/02/nato-phonetic-alphabet-in-crosswords.html

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  32. Dr RKE's Talepiece which he sent to me before proceeding to the OT for surgeries

    BRAVO, SUNNET, you have managed to place your signature by including RA from your name, RA MESH (SUN NET). Does this qualify as a NINA?

    The most cryptic part of the pangram puzzle is finding the theme! Don't we DIG IT?
    Although, the clues did not OVERTAX the grey cells, they did not fail to ENTERTAIN.

    If you are BENT ON having a good time, how about picking up some WHISKY at HALF PRICE in the YULETIDE sale, that begins as early as NOVEMBER these days in the duty-free shop of the Robert MUGABE airport at Harare, during one of your GLOBAL tours? Also on sale there, are some beautiful MINIATURE icons of ZULU warriors weilding a SABRE. And don't forget getting the CD of movies like ROMEO and JULIET or TANGO. You needn't worry, the X-RAY EQUIPMENT to scan baggage there has not been REPAIRED for ages!

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    1. +1 The best part was the failure of X ray equipment at Mugabe airport!
      Thank you Doctor.

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  33. Refer KKR's comment at 12:13. I did not delete those comments. I wonder which Blog Administrator deleted the comments and why, I would like to know. Please mail me direct. After deletion of comments the name of Cryptic_Critic has become Anonymous?

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    1. Oh it is very shocking! I saw "the coomments were deleted by administrator"

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    2. Col, isn't there a log which shows who deleted the comment.

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  34. I have the power to delete spam/inappropriate Comment. I would be the last person to delete that long important message on which I am concerned and over which I had discussion on that very day with another member but not the Colonel who I thought would have seen it anyway as he monitors messages closely and regularly.

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