On a trip to Hyderabad with Incognito today. Let's make it the venue for our next S&B meet, as and when we decide to have one.
ACROSS
1 Offer made in a street; a street right in the heart of 8 (4,4) ABID ROAD {A}{BID} {ROAD}
5 Liquor found in Ascot church (6) SCOTCH [T]
10 Churchman has six cars after losing first scooter (5) VICAR {VI}{CAR
11 Mad platinum blonde without limb and ring is virgin (9) UNPLANTED {P
12 See dully, confused after rookie left noisily (6) LOUDLY {LO}{DU
13 Look, lime pickle and a bit of radish is more suitable (8) SEEMLIER {SEE}{LIME*}{R}
15 Mince fins following audible inhalation of air (5) SNIFF {FINS}*{F}
17 Activists of this movement sometimes burnt their supporters (6,3) WOMANS LIB [CD]
19 Authorises support of boxer to second English school (9) LEGALISES {LEG}{ALI}{S}{E}{S}
20 German left Ground Zero (5) ROUND
21 Upbraiders rue kerbs excitedly (8) REBUKERS*
23 Witch's husband, maybe, is good at spelling (6) WIZARD [C&DD]
27 Strangely United Nations and United States accept free for all pool (9) UNUSUALLY {UN}{US}{U}{ALLY}
28 Forming an axis with a team and a learner (5) AXIAL {A}{XI}{A}{L}
29 Gaur endlessly consumes tea with cake (6) GATEAU {GA{TEA}U
30 Fashion a gold covering for trickster in fort famous for diamond mines (8) GOLCONDA {GOL{CON}DA*}
DOWN
1 Forty nine Romans carried broken down van to Smithy's block (5) ANVIL {VAN*}{IL}
2 Counting Indian completing in absence of criminal (9) INCLUDING {IN}{
3 Countryside river is in front of mountain (5) RURAL {R}{URAL}
4 Gold is returned after a question about water colour (4) AQUA {A}{Q}{UA<=}
6 Badly singe tower after the alien leaves a monument (9) CHARMINAR {CHAR}{MINAR
8 Had brayed animatedly in nascent state (9) HYDERABAD*
9 On top of the heap like 1 across (9) UPPERMOST [CD]
14 Helvetian aerobatic stunt with a type of cake (5,4) SWISS ROLL {SWISS} {ROLL}
22 Johnson of the Cambridge Four (or was it Five?) was known to be abrupt (5) BLUNT [DD]
25 A type of wiring for Sunderbans, for example (5) DELTA [DD]
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| Cartoon by Richard |
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Very enjoyable. Truly Indian. Was 'badly' needed in 6D ?
ReplyDeleteI suppose it is needed to qualify 'singe'
DeleteBadly was used with two intentions. Char is supposed to be burn fully, where as singe may be more superficial. So to indicate intensity of the burn. Also, useful as a red herring for making solver think that an anagram is lurking.
DeleteThanks, Shri. Aaapka bhi nambar aa raha hai !
DeleteI think I know what you mean, by your reply to Shri.
DeleteThe red herring almost got me for a while.
Delete@Raghu 916: Others too in the pipeline...
DeleteShould be interesting. A la David Lean?
DeleteLean and me ?! You must be joking. You have seen my photo.
DeleteApologise for the twin 'mad's. I should have changed one of them to something else.
ReplyDeleteExcellent crossword from Incognito, not only because he's highlighted Hyderabad's landmarks, but to write an easy one, I feel requires plenty of skill.
ReplyDeleteI filled in Abid Road (1a) first, not having got (8d) Hyderabad initially. Other shopping places in twin cities have overshadowed Abid Road these days.
I belong to the era, when I studied at Little Flower at Chirag Ali Lane and the only good restaurant in town was the Taj Mahal Cafe, just off Abids (Sarovar near the Mint came later). Other favourite haunts near Abids were AA Husain & Co (booksellers),the GPO (for new stamp issues and first day covers) and St. Anne's Girls School (for ornithological purposes).
DeleteYou mean St. George's Girls School? The school you mention is in Secunderabad. Don't know whether you bunked classes to go to Lighthouse to watch English movies. Like I wrote earlier, this theatre used to play Ventures during interludes
DeleteKishore,the bird watcher?
DeleteYou are right, it was St. G's. a little beyond the Taj Mahal Cafe, if I recollect right. That is the trouble with we ornithologists. We miss the woods for the birds. I believed in Liberty to watch movies...
DeleteAnd you didn't have to be a diplomat to watch them in Embassy.
DeleteMy sister studied in St. Anne's Girls School while I was in Mehboob College High School. Way back in late 1950s.
DeleteNow I understand your comments @11:20 to MB better
ReplyDeleteRead 'yesterday's 11.10 in the place of 11.20
ReplyDelete'Mad' blonde could have been 'Stupid/ Dumb' blonde, I felt. Apologies to blondes, no malice intended.
ReplyDeleteDo we have blondes in India, other than the dyed ones?
DeleteIn which case the apology is withdrawn, because they are really dumb ;-)
DeleteReminded me of my experiments with Hydrogen Peroxide, circa 1973.
DeleteI too did try that experiment
DeleteI used to hollow out fused bulbs to use as containers for heating my concoctions.
DeleteNice theme. Made me feel nostalgic of all the places mentioned. Thanks Incognito.
ReplyDelete8d - I know a state is variously used to mean a country or state but can Hyderabad which is a city be described as a state?
I suppose he meant the old Hyderabad state of the Nizam. But was that nascent?
DeleteHyderabad was a state till 1948
DeleteYeah Raghu wasn't sure what the reference was to.
Delete'Had brayed animatedly in princely state' would have been better
DeleteCol. at 9.16- Very apt. I hesitated before filling in Hyderabad,then made it considering the theme.
Deletethe def was 'in nascent state' i.e. in Telangana. I know Bhavan is not in favour of the 'in India' sort of definitions, but sorry about that. I see it used quite often in the Brit puzzles.
DeleteYesterday's ET5594 had:
28a Old lady meeting a girl in Spain (7)
23d Dramas aren't the same in India (6)
Incidentally, I came across the word 'nascent' for the first time in Hyderabad, with our Chemistry teacher Mr Poornachandra Rao telling us that when we prepared oxygen what we got was nascent oxygen. He did not tell us the meaning of that word and the whole class neither knew the meaning or spelling of nascent and (me including) did not bother to find out. We just mugged the spelling.
DeleteOK, I missed it because I wasn't looking for it.
DeleteEach setter has his/her own style. They can't cater to all solver's whims, so never mind my pet peeves.
Deepak's alternative is certainly better, in the long run, for if any one tries this puzzle after passage of some time, the nascent state's novelty would have worn off. In my defense, I tried to keep it topical.
DeleteThough I've not met 'me!' in person, does the toon for 22d describe him in some sense?
ReplyDeleteYes it does describe Me !
DeleteWas almost sure of that.
Delete@Incognito Thanks for trip to Hyderabad after 5 years :)
ReplyDeleteThanks, Kishore. You kept your word. Yesterday you said that today's CW would be more to my liking. Well, being a Hyderabadi, I could get all those highlighted places, just like that!
ReplyDelete23Dn Blunt was the last one to fall. Had to Google for it. Thoroughly enjoyed this simple and elegant puzzle. :-))) Thanks once again, Kishore.
Typo : 22Dn BLUNT
DeleteThank you 'Incognito' for a nice start to the morning- a good brainstorming exercise. Enjoyed it immensely.
ReplyDelete8D- Did you mean 'at the time of Independence' by nascent?
Very interesting to read about Cambridge 4/ 5. Never heard about it. Thank you Col. for the links.
Pl ref my 939 above on the same topic. Telangana was referred to as 'the Promised Land' in one of Incognito's previous puzzles.
DeleteYes, I saw it later. It is still a promised land. Cho's oft repeated favourite quote-" Promises will be kept- as promises."
DeleteFully enriched with photos of Hyderabad landmarks. Interesting to read about the replica in Karachi. One learns a lot of things.
ReplyDeleteI remember watching the soldiers walking out of the cuckoo(?) clock in Salr Jung. A big crowd would wait around for the hourly (or was it half hourly?) bell.
ReplyDeleteNoon is the climactic hour.
DeleteIncidentally, it is also a pangram, which is presently quite a common creature in these environs ...
ReplyDeleteDidn't notice that at all
DeleteLike you missed the trees for the birds, we missed the general theme for the highlights.
DeleteWhen triceratops roam the steppes, unicorns are but ten a penny ;-)
DeleteWe need encyclopedias, dictionaries, thesauri etc. to understand your 11.05 puzzle!
DeleteOh quite simple, really! While we have triple pangrams from AD, single ones have been flooding THC. So just another one would not cause much excitement.
DeleteEnjoyable one, Incognito - thank you. The very first clue (1a) led me to 8, whence it was smooth sailing all the way.
ReplyDeleteVery nice surfaces overall. Mild disappointment with 14 - putting "type of cake" in the clue made it a piece of cake!
Thanks to DG and the cartoonists. Especially liked Richard's mildly naughty take on the 'upturned' delta.
Thanks Abhay.
DeleteThanks Kishore for the nostalgia trip to Hyderabad ! The cutlets at Taj Mahal Cafe and the egg bondas at Hilton Cafe right at the entrance to my University ( Osmania) were awesome. I believe Hilton Cafe has now made way to CCD.
ReplyDelete+1 for Colonel's suggestion to have an S&B meet at Hyd.
The exhibit which I loved the most at Salar Jung is the marble sculpture of the veiled maiden. I find that most amazing
ReplyDeleteVeiled Rebecca.
DeleteThat is right Raghu. I did not remember the actual name.
DeleteThat was a real masterpiece- even the idea.
DeleteInteresting!! Why Hyderabad?
ReplyDeleteI don't get 17A... Could somebody explain? And not sure if the clue is grammatically right.
Women libbers in a protest march were reputed (wrongly) to have burnt their bras. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_America_protest
DeleteNo problem with the grammar, I think.
VJ, why not Hyd? Some other place some other time, but one has to begin somewhere.
DeleteIn respect of the supporters that were supposedly burnt (or may be not), did the buy new ones for the arson, or old unusable/unwashed ones used is a moot question, but I suppose the must have exited from those supporters before firing them
Well was wondering if there was an occasion or something. These days you got so many "day"s that you kinda lose track :)
DeleteI suppose so too. The thing that separates "pretty" and "not so pretty."
Simble puzzle
ReplyDeleteJust simble- not simbly great?!
DeleteI extend my 18d to Incognito as well. Quite a feat to get themed non-English proper nouns into the grid while keeping it easy.
ReplyDeleteWith Bobby Jasoos one day and this puzzle the next, it's as if I am doused in the sights and sounds of Hyderabad.
Aap aise nakko bolo ji. Jab aisa hota hai, ek do-chhar mauz khako ek das faTAfaT khaalo ... hallu hallu sab Theek ho jaenga ...
DeleteHow, kya bolein yaroon!
DeleteAap logaan Haiderabad kab aarain bolo. Paradise hotel ka biryani khilaton, Irani hotel ki chai pilatoon, Karachi bakery ka biskut dilatoon, rackshey mein Charminar ki sair karatoon.
Nice Hyderabadi jargon by Kishore and Raghunath! Can't compete with them. :)
DeleteKaikoo? Mere poTTon ko mere bachpan ki shaandaar purani haveli dikhane koo, ek baar main lakdi ka pool ke bajoo waale goodluck bakery ke pass aaya tha. Par jab woh compound ke darwaze par gaya, to wahaan ek naya board nazar aaya - "brothers of St.Gabriel" karkoo.security waala andhar jaanekoo nahin choDenga bola!
DeleteNot jargon, MB. The mot juste would be patois, pronounced to rhyme with fatwa
DeleteOK ! :) I am not much familiar with local (Urdu) dialect spoken here, reason being, I became a permanent resident of Hyderabad since 2010 only. I was here way back in 1968-1981 while serving in IAF at Hakimpet.
Delete17 Activists of this movement sometimes burnt their supporters (6,3) WOMANS LIB [CD]
ReplyDeleteI condemn this movement. Up-lifters of the downtrodden should not be treated like this ;-)
Renga, what are you up to? The may bw downfallen , but never trodden
DeleteYou are risking a 'Tut-tut'.
DeleteKishore, What's with missing out the 'y' in 'the.'?
DeleteTypos
DeletePadmanabhan7:59 pm GMT+5:30
ReplyDeleteDhoti is mentioned. My father as an advocate regularly used to wear dhoti & black coat to courts, of course with a turban. But the dhoti used to be worn in the traditional style (pancha kacham) This was allowed even during the British rule. All these are for courts and Govt. offices. But when it comes to a private club who and by whom will a dress code will be enforced ? It sounds logical that it should be decided by the club committee and its officials. I don't think Govt. can intervene or impose. Those who adhere may attend and those who do not, may boycott. Am I right?
Ammamma ! Mama mia ! Ammaji breezes in quickly before the wind blows it off and some one tells LEG IS LATE before it is too late !!! I have never worn one as it will never stay in its place !
Incidentally, here in CBE, they even sell a belt in white with velcros complete, to hold the Dhoti's place in our lives !! and who folds up his Dhoti, Dabaang style, other than Seenu mama to jump on to the velcro band wagon?
CW in place in TH with clues and grid, but cognito, I mean no Incognito. Something has to be missing.
ReplyDeleteThe final horizontal line of the grid is missin too. Efforts of apps will come a cropper
DeleteThe missing 'g' in your msg is intentional,I suppose (to go with TH)
DeleteBoth the apps have picked up the CW last line missing notwithstanding
DeleteThat is certainly a good sign
DeleteKishore,
ReplyDeleteDid you do yesterday's CW in ET?
6D- The undertaker's ground one hopes to reach? (3,8,4)
Yes, I did. Telangana!
Delete:-)
DeleteOn Hyderabad -
ReplyDeleteDuring our last - and so far the only - visit to the great city, we had the privilege of visiting so many places, including Charminar, Salar Jung, Golconda and others.
For any new visitor, I would also recommend a peek into the Sudha Cars museum, the brainchild of Sudhakar K. (Click and read.)
He told me that on a certain day of the year, they hold a rally of all these cars, created in different shapes and sizes, on selected thoroughfares of the city.
Fascinated by the name Lakdi Ka Pul, I went around looking for wooden bridge. Couldn't find. Does it really exist now?
And, Raghu, you reminded me of my favourite Karachi biscuits. Addiction-forming indeed!
I used to live on Red Hills Road and my school was near Abids. So everyday we used to ride our bicycles to the railway gate just before Nampally station which had the Public Gardens on the other side and carry our bikes through (this gate is now replaced by a footbridge). Our return journey was always over Lakdi ka Pul and even then over 40 years back, it was a concrete bridge.
DeleteRe 1D: 49 = XLIX :)
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely correct !
DeleteSo it should have been
Delete1 Fifty one Romans retreated with broken down van to Smithy's block (5) or
1 One and fifty Romans carried broken down van to Smithy's block (5)
Why not XXXXIX?
ReplyDeletePlease read:
Deletehttp://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/06/roman-numerals.html
Apparently, I am in good company as this seems to have gone past The Guardian's vetting too
But is not IL the normal way to write 49? I mean the original Roman method. Similarly IC is 99. In Hindi also 9's are always different- one short of fifty etc. (Unchas)
ReplyDeleteSorry Kishore & Mohsin. I stand corrected.
ReplyDeleteBut I learned something today- that the subtraction is possible for the next 2 higher digits.
Thank you.